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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:13 pm
PrinceElly I just switched from an old King to an Alexander 503, and I love it. It's incredibly comfortable to hold, sounds great, and the mechanical valves are top-notch. My valves are being funny. I think maybe I need to do something with the strings but I don't know. This is when having a teacher who actually plays the horn would be useful. Anyone seen engraved valve caps? I saw this horn once. It was beautiful. All leaves and twirls. So pretty. Someday...
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:58 am
I concur with someone in the first few pages, Mellophone is hell to march, and I absolutely love being first chair in concert season and owning the other two girls.
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:50 pm
Could it be that your horn just needs a general tune-up, with new corks, strings, and a cleaning? You could always bring it to a local music store to figure out what's going on.
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:37 pm
Does anyone know if a flugel horn sounds diffrent than a fremch horn? I heard that the only diffrence is the way it looks.
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:13 am
PrinceElly Could it be that your horn just needs a general tune-up, with new corks, strings, and a cleaning? You could always bring it to a local music store to figure out what's going on. The corks are fine as far as I can see, although they are easy to change/make if I needed one. Clean as far as I can tell. I used to have a horn without strings so I'm not used to them yet. The local music store has nothing to do with horns. And so does the less local one. And the even less local one. 45 minutes away which is kind of annoying. Anyone know any sites that would sell strings in the uk?
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:16 am
water_elemental Does anyone know if a flugel horn sounds diffrent than a fremch horn? I heard that the only diffrence is the way it looks. i would imagine it would be slightly different but then I do find that the Bflat and F sides of my horn sound different so I could be being overly picky. But it could be very similar.
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:15 pm
If you get the intended sound on f horn, the flugelhorn sounds SO brassy by comparison.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:47 pm
anyone know where i can get some good string replacements and pads online? my horn is lik 14 years old and i don't think its ever had any parts replaced. also my keys click against the pads when i play, is this just another replacement issue or something else? ___________ i am pretty much the horn doctor at my school since my BD is stupid and my section doesn't really care sweatdrop . theres one that had somehow got its first valve unstringed, its only 3 years old really and it hasn't been played for two, the keys are sticking like mad. i really don't have the time or patience to try and doctor this horn its seriously screwed up. anyone have any tips apart from just playing it to help loosen this horn up?
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:12 am
i love my horn... 3nodding i love horn rips. whee it may be the schools horn but due to the fact the school it self has been open for only five years my horn has been at the school for only five years and the first three it was just sitting on the shelf not being used.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:22 am
KGarbage anyone know where i can get some good string replacements and pads online? my horn is lik 14 years old and i don't think its ever had any parts replaced. also my keys click against the pads when i play, is this just another replacement issue or something else? ___________ i am pretty much the horn doctor at my school since my BD is stupid and my section doesn't really care sweatdrop . theres one that had somehow got its first valve unstringed, its only 3 years old really and it hasn't been played for two, the keys are sticking like mad. i really don't have the time or patience to try and doctor this horn its seriously screwed up. anyone have any tips apart from just playing it to help loosen this horn up? get fishingline for strings. it is crude but if you get the clear stuff if doesnt look too bad and because it was ment to hold heavy objects, it wont brake as easily on the sticky horn. and get rotary valve oil for it .. the older horns can take regular oil but newers need rotary oil... as for pads, try going to a music store and see if they can tell you a good place and nothing else get them to order some for you.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:23 pm
KGarbage anyone know where i can get some good string replacements and pads online? my horn is lik 14 years old and i don't think its ever had any parts replaced. also my keys click against the pads when i play, is this just another replacement issue or something else? ___________ i am pretty much the horn doctor at my school since my BD is stupid and my section doesn't really care sweatdrop . theres one that had somehow got its first valve unstringed, its only 3 years old really and it hasn't been played for two, the keys are sticking like mad. i really don't have the time or patience to try and doctor this horn its seriously screwed up. anyone have any tips apart from just playing it to help loosen this horn up? I've heard fishing line too. I also have kite string in my head but I think it's the same stuff as fishing line. By pads do you mean the bits on the back of the valve that are either rubber or cork? I call them corks and make my own with a penknife and and a cork ?(from a wine bottle) When you take off the screw cap on the valve there will be two lines at right angles to each other in the middle bit. There will also be two marks on the circle outside that. The marks on each section should match up, if they don't you need to replace the pads/corks/stops If you don't feel like making your own is a good idea you can get some from the paxman website. http://www.paxman.co.uk/It is a UK website but I think it does US delivery too. Click shopping, accessories pricelist and they're both under MAINTENANCE/OTHER ACCESSORIES. If the keys are sticking are all the right types of oil used? Thin oil for inside and thicker for under the caps. That paxman website had a very useful thing explaining it all that would have been useful. If that doesn't work you might need to try taking it to a shop and getting someone to clean the valves.
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:29 pm
thanks i'm on that site right now. i'm a little intimidated about using fishingline though... but i'll research it. lol you guys are great help thanks.
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:12 pm
my senior second chair... dude. rant: ok, we have a really sucky band director (who, thank the lord if he exists) is resigning at the end of term. anyhow she is totally biased in chairs, but i, the outcast freshmen girl hornplayer, beat a popular senior guy matt... he was so pissed but he never showed up for his challenges. he finally gave up. but DUDE! he freaking overpowers me all the time! its like... uh... matt... we're in Piano there, hon. just because you can't stand being second chair doesn't give you the right to play over the whole band when you have a countermelody or background part. especially to my solo. and he was the SL for marching season and he still calls my section His section. thankfully this week, he's sick. and 2 weeks before he had a bloody lip, and he just didn't exist the weeks before that. cheers to freshmen power, persistence, and practice.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:12 pm
Sounds crappy KGarbage. My turn to rant.
Although I'm not sure if I would prefer to be in that position. At least just to see what it is like. My band conducter is ok but she the woodwind instructor and so is slightly biased against woodwind. She knows how good/bad they are and they get more of a chance to say if something is insanely easy. There's a big group of trumpets so they can have 1st and 2nd parts so they are all right but I'm on my own and trapped in the most boring, way too easy parts. I've been playing for almost 5 years and could have played them fine 4 years ago. It wouldn't be so bad if I had a hope of ever being able to go on to play something harder but theres just one wind band in school and it has to cater for almost beginners. The horn is always the background part. Mainly just holding notes but occasionaly a bit of rhythem. I know someone has to play that part and I do (if I'm being brutally honest) hold the background instruments together as there aren't that many of us and most are beginners. I can't change because then there wouldn't be a background. I would be able to put up with it a lot more easily but some of the other instruments (especially trumpets) have such trouble playing the parts and even they are easy. Thats the other thing, even if I was playing tune it would still be way too easy and at least when I'm in the background I do make a difference. In my school we have to be in wind band if we want to learn a wind instrument. But it's drinving me nuts. it's so frustrating I just want to walk out but then I wouldn't get lessons and I wouldn't get to play all those awesome peices that challenge me (I'm working on some of Mozart's concertos just now) and the thing is that I did used to like band, it felt like such an acheivement when we sounded good. I had to work for it so it felt good but now it's just another concert to sit through.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:22 pm
Our school was blessed with a ton of pieces with great horn parts, not trying to brag i promise, i'm so glad i'm at this school for that reason. but i know how it feels to have just background, ice_illusion. our stupid director is making up play like 4 marches. and if any horn player has played any marches, all we ever get (or me, anyway) are offbeats, transitions and maybe a bit at the trio. but 2 of the pieces that we're playing that i LOVE with the deepest depth of my deep heart of music, it "Pilatus, mountain of Dragons" and "shenandoah". the version of Shenandoah is commisioned for a school in like illinios or wisconsin for a french hornplayer in their band who passed away, the whole thing is horn melody, with a echoed flute trio and a flute, sax, and trumpet melody. but the horns are the most important of the song and it rocks. not like we can play them, our teacher is too busy talking about absolute crap. today she was talking about how she wanted to get pregnant. crap no one wants to know about your sex life we just want to play music. that was more of a rave, not a rant. hope you the best this year and better horn parts in the future. blaugh
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