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 Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:00 pm
Our beast is becoming more and more deadly with every one of these little segments. Now, we've gone through anti-Infantry, anti-Heavy Infantry, and anti-Light Armor. The one thing that is left for our beast to build up to tackle is Heavy Armor. We're talking Monoliths, Land Raiders, Leman Russ units, Hammerheads, etc. This variant is going to absolutely pummel whatever it comes across. The standard anti-tank gun for the Space Marines is the Lascannon. Hell, it is present as an upgrade for just about every tank that they field. This tank, however, is meant to be a dedicated anti-Armor in this variant. A twin linked tank in this case just doesn't feel like it has enough of a "Melt it to slag" feel. In this case, I think either a rotating barrel or battery of Lascannons are needed. Along with that some Lascannon Sponsons. As of now, I think that the tank has a thoroughly destructive profile.
Tank - 90 pts
BS4 AV 14-11-10
Equipment: Turret TL Autocannon, Smoke Launcher, Searchlight
Turret Upgrades:
Punisher Gatling Cannon +40pts
S5 AP- 24" Heavy 20
(Tank name) Plasma Cannon +45pts
S7 AP2 36" Heavy 2 3" Blast
(Tank Name) Gatling Lascannon +50
S9 AP2 48" Heavy D3
Sponson Upgrades:
2x Autocannon Sponsons +40pts
S7 AP4 48" Heavy 2
2x Heavy Bolter Sponsons +25pts
S5 AP4 36" Heavy 3
2x Plasma Cannon Sponsons +50pts
S7 AP2 36" Heavy 1 3" Blast
2x Lascannon Sponsons +60pts
S9 AP2 48" Heavy 1
Quoted nicely from Paul back a couple of pages.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:02 pm
Yup, Jason beat me to it.
If I had the funds available, I'd walk down to my local hobby store, pick up a Predator and a pair of IG Heavy Weapons Teams to start knocking this thing together.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:21 pm
Sponsons are rather expensive and the Gatling lascannon is rather pointless at such a high cost.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:43 pm
Lt. Brookman Sponsons are rather expensive and the Gatling lascannon is rather pointless at such a high cost. And such is why it's up. What would you think? Something like a 5-10 pt global decrease on sponsons?
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:56 pm
Make the bolter and las sponsons the same price as the Preds in the current codex. Make the AC's 25 points and the PC's 35/40 points.
As for the Gatling lascannon, it needs work to be useful. Right now it is quirky at best and most people don't like expensive stuff to act like that. Either you lower the price or fix the rate of fire.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:00 pm
Tank - 90 pts
BS4 AV 14-11-10
Equipment: Turret TL Autocannon, Smoke Launcher, Searchlight
Turret Upgrades:
Punisher Gatling Cannon +40pts
S5 AP- 24" Heavy 20
(Tank name) Plasma Cannon +45pts
S7 AP2 36" Heavy 2 3" Blast
(Tank Name) Gatling Lascannon +45pts
S9 AP2 48" Heavy D3+1
Sponson Upgrades:
2x Autocannon Sponsons +30pts
S7 AP4 48" Heavy 2
2x Heavy Bolter Sponsons +25pts
S5 AP4 36" Heavy 3
2x Plasma Cannon Sponsons +40pts
S7 AP2 36" Heavy 1 3" Blast
2x Lascannon Sponsons +60pts
S9 AP2 48" Heavy 1
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:00 pm
Costs updated. The HBolt and LC sponsons were already correct with the current 'Dex.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:01 pm
Added note; why not give it a melta cannon of sorts instead?
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:02 pm
Caleidah Costs updated. The HBolt and LC sponsons were already correct with the current 'Dex. Damn, you guys are ********. sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:03 pm
Lt. Brookman Added note; why not give it a melta cannon of sorts instead? Hm... (Tank Name) Melta Cannon +30pts S8 AP1 24" Heavy 2 2x Multimelta Sponsons +30 S8 AP1 24" Heavy 1 As such?
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:06 pm
Caleidah Lt. Brookman Added note; why not give it a melta cannon of sorts instead? Hm... (Tank Name) Melta Cannon +40pts S8 AP1 24" Heavy 1, Melta2x Multimelta Sponsons + 35S8 AP1 24" Heavy 1 As such? Fixed some stuff.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:06 pm
Ok...that inspired more changes.
Tank - 90 pts
BS4 AV 14-11-10
Equipment: Turret TL Autocannon, Smoke Launcher, Searchlight
Turret Upgrades:
Punisher Gatling Cannon +35pts
S5 AP- 24" Heavy 20
(Tank name) Plasma Cannon +45pts
S7 AP2 36" Heavy 2 3" Blast
(Tank Name) Melta Cannon +40pts
S8 AP1 24" Heavy 1, Melta
Sponson Upgrades:
2x Autocannon Sponsons +30pts
S7 AP4 48" Heavy 2
2x Heavy Bolter Sponsons +25pts
S5 AP4 36" Heavy 3
2x Plasma Cannon Sponsons +40pts
S7 AP2 36" Heavy 1 3" Blast
2x Multimelta Sponsons +35
S8 AP1 24" Heavy 1
-=Edited=-
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:32 pm
Will it benefit from any special rules?
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:36 pm
Lt. Brookman Will it benefit from any special rules? Not sure yet. I'm definitely thinking about it, but don't want it to get overly complex.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:15 pm
I think we need a generic name for the tank to go with variant name in the second place.
e.g.
plasma variant = XXXX Sunfire
melta variant = XXXX Nocturne (it screams Salamanders!)
gatling punisher variant = XXXX Hailstorm
But since it is not a Predator anymore, we need a good common name for variants, only my imagination runs out of steam here.
Your proposals?
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