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 Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:31 am
Personally I agree. I really hate rapefic. But can you even imagine some of these horrid pairings as reciprocal? As in, they both love each other? When I wish fervently for rapefic, it's for the sake of an infinitesimal sliver of realism, because pairings like these don't work any other way.
And I've occasionally seen rapefic done realistically, where the author doesn't try to make it "romantic". Trust me, even though these aren't my favorite thing either, I vastly prefer them.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:52 am
I just don't see rape as something that can bring the victim and the rapist closer together; rape gives birth to shame and hatred, not love and lust. I can't even imagine being raped violently as something that will have positive consequences in the future to be honest. I'm not trying to offend you, of course! And I sincerely hope that I'm not. I'm sorry. sad
But then again, we all have our preferences, right? While I may not enjoy it, I got nothing against people that do, honestly. Again, if I offend anyone in any manner, I'm sorry.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:11 pm
Yuudai Sasaki Worst rapefic I've seen will forever be Kurama/Youko...made no bloody sense whatsoever. gonk
XD Though it does amuse me, for some inexplicable reason.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:25 pm
Yes, it should have been, but Youko's spirit went out of Shuichi's body and he raped him. Worst part was how extremely Seme/Uke that relationship was described. Shuichi was so innocent and girly, I couldn't even think of that 'couple' as homosexual, while Youko was just cruel and sadistic.
It is kind of funny, when you say so! lol 'Self-rape'!
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:40 pm
Oh, I despise any fanfic that attempts to make a pairing of Youko and Shuichi. Those just piss me right off because THEY ARE NOT POSSIBLE. Youko and Shuichi's souls have been fused together. That means, that even when Shuichi's body dies, part of him will always be in Kurama. Kurama will never fully be like his old self again because now he does have some of a human soul in him. Also, Youko's soul can't escape Shuichi's body. Remember, when Kurama reverts back to his old self HIS WHOLE BODY CHANGES. Youko doesn't magically come out and stand next to Shuichi. Sorry but to me there isn't even really a Shuichi and Youko, there's only Kurama. Shuichi is the name Shiori gave her son and the life Kurama is chosing to live right now.
I also hate rape fics, and that's because they almost always glorify rape. Well let me tell you, I've been molested and when I found out that my molester died(he was a friend of my mothers) I almost wanted to dance. I couldn't because I lied to my Christian mother and told her that her dear Christian daughter had forgiven him, but in truth I DESPISED him until the moment he died. So any author that writes a rape fic in which the victim falls in love with their rapist, obviously has never experienced that pain.
So yeah, those two kinds of Yu Yu Hakusho fics really don't make any sense to me. Sorry if I shared too much personal info with you all, I can delete this post if people are too bothered by it.
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:52 pm
How dare your mother make you forgive that b*****d! *wants to go on a rapist killing spree*
I have also dealt with rape but mine's a bit different (Hoshi-chan should know about this if I told her...anyone else can ask through PM)...but the only good thing that came out of it was my kids...but even then it's hard to see them in a normal light...otherwise it has caused me to distrust and be suspicious of all the friends I've had physical contact with and I tend to box myself into the real world...my artwork has gotten more expressive since then and if I seem chatty to anyone it's because I feel I can have nothing in common with people outside the internet and because I don't want to keep things away from the only people I do trust...and that's anyone on Gaia that knows me for me and nothing more...
I think I've been rambling too much lately... crying
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:46 am
Broken Hearted Hiei How dare your mother make you forgive that b*****d! *wants to go on a rapist killing spree* I have also dealt with rape but mine's a bit different (Hoshi-chan should know about this if I told her...anyone else can ask through PM)...but the only good thing that came out of it was my kids...but even then it's hard to see them in a normal light...otherwise it has caused me to distrust and be suspicious of all the friends I've had physical contact with and I tend to box myself into the real world...my artwork has gotten more expressive since then and if I seem chatty to anyone it's because I feel I can have nothing in common with people outside the internet and because I don't want to keep things away from the only people I do trust...and that's anyone on Gaia that knows me for me and nothing more... I think I've been rambling too much lately... crying I'm going to regret asking this, but are your children the result of the rape or something of the like? sad Even if that is so, they're probably beautiful anyway; children, whoever their parents are, are innocent and kind creatures. If my question upsets you, just tell me and I'll delete this comment. I'm really sorry that something like a rape happened to you; I think I just felt my heart skip a beat when I read your comment. sad I'm really sorry...
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:40 am
*Is tempted to crawl into and hide in a little hole.* I'm sorry everyone, I didn't mean to put such downer discussion into this thread. I should have come up with another way to express my dislike of rape fics. I'm really, really sorry.
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:40 pm
>.> I was pretty sure I started this suck-fest. I apologize to all and sundry.
I certainly don't find rapefics good in any sense of the word, I just prefer realism over character butchering, and I was attempting to describe my degree of confusion and disgust over certain pairings that could not and would not happen, except as rape. I certainly don't think rape can ever be romantic or bring the victim and rapist closer together; I'm really not sure why my posts gave anyone that impression.
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:15 pm
Yuudai Sasaki Broken Hearted Hiei How dare your mother make you forgive that b*****d! *wants to go on a rapist killing spree* I have also dealt with rape but mine's a bit different (Hoshi-chan should know about this if I told her...anyone else can ask through PM)...but the only good thing that came out of it was my kids...but even then it's hard to see them in a normal light...otherwise it has caused me to distrust and be suspicious of all the friends I've had physical contact with and I tend to box myself into the real world...my artwork has gotten more expressive since then and if I seem chatty to anyone it's because I feel I can have nothing in common with people outside the internet and because I don't want to keep things away from the only people I do trust...and that's anyone on Gaia that knows me for me and nothing more... I think I've been rambling too much lately... crying I'm going to regret asking this, but are your children the result of the rape or something of the like? sad Even if that is so, they're probably beautiful anyway; children, whoever their parents are, are innocent and kind creatures. If my question upsets you, just tell me and I'll delete this comment. I'm really sorry that something like a rape happened to you; I think I just felt my heart skip a beat when I read your comment. sad I'm really sorry... A couple of years ago a teacher touched me very in a very undecent way. That alone scared the hell out of me, and I've never actually told anyone about it. I can't even imagine being raped...I'm so sorry... Yes, my twin boy and girl are the result of the rape. Both the father (my best friend) and I were incoherent when it happened so when I found out I was pregnant, my first thought was 'What?! Wait, where did my virginity go? *looks around*' And they are absolutely gorgeous and they make me very happy despite how they came to be. I could only imagine...I'm so sorry that happened to you... cry It's scaring me the way sex and drugs are ruining America...just the other day a friend told me through PM that her 3 year old sister had been molested by their father's buddy. @Hoshi-chan: Don't worry hun...I think it's deep conversations like this that bring people together and learn more about each other. @Tekani-chan: I totally understand your point of view. If a fic is going to have rape in it, make it believable (sp?). If they wind up falling in love, I give the author a piece of my mind and drop the fic like bare hands on a hot pot.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:48 am
I hope I'm not too personal, but you still consider him your best friend after he raped you? I am glad however that you got such great children though. I bet they're wonderful.
@Tekani: I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood. My English isn't all that great. sweatdrop I'm so sorry if I offended you.
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:44 am
I'm sorry to hear that he got away. That sucks. Hopefully he'll get what he deserves at some other time.
And don't worry about it; I understand. Your English is so good in the posts that you make, that I sometimes forget it isn't your first language. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:28 pm
I agree with you, the sterotypical Seme/Uke thing really gets on my nerves. ESPECIALLY when they make the uke the equivalent of a woman with a d**k ><. I mean I know there are some effeminite guys out there, but I have seen authors take it way too far. Luckily I haven't really had too much trouble with seeing people make Kurama too girly, perhaps because of the kind of fanfics I read >> <<. Don't worry, you have not offended me.
However, I actually came here to post another pairing that just really blew me... I mean I physically twitched when I saw it. Yomi/Kuronue. Can I just say... W.T.F!? They've never even met! They're not in the series together and basically could be considered from different freakin' worlds! Kuronue would have been LONG dead by the time Youko took Yomi on as a partner and they developed their band of theives. Of course the fact that I dislike Yomi and would rather see Kuronue with Youko, likely makes my hatred for this pairing biased sweatdrop
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