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Anonymous_Alcoholic

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:04 am


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I wouldn't call that a religious debate... At all... Considering the "Religious Figure" being referenced was a video game character.

And? people are religious to a tv series, so it wouldn't surprise me if he actually as religious toward the sun whatever. I've never played the game he was referencing, so therefore I had no idea.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:35 pm


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I'm 16 about to be 17 this June.

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Not like that. Total perf.


Hm so you say -_- and my birthday is also in june.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:37 pm


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confused Honestly, we don't do that stuff... As an aspiring preacher, I'd like to call myself a priest, but apparently that title is Catholic specific ( come on you guys, share the titles. xD ), I don't plan on it until she has a ring on her finger. That might change since she has recently began showing intrest in it, but I'm attempting to retain myself and her. The battle is a losing one I'm affraid... But God forgives, so long as I repent my sins in his honor. ( I've never quite understood his forgiveness. It seems unreal to me, but then again, I do find the world as almost completely rotten to the core, myself included saddly. )

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I'm going to ask you to please stop this. I'm not felling too well, and I'm relatively sure you are posting such a thing merely to spite me, or for your own personal agenda. Please, I'll keep my opinion on the subject to myself if you keep yours to yourself.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:54 pm


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I wouldn't call that a religious debate... At all... Considering the "Religious Figure" being referenced was a video game character.

Hikaro_rin
but it felt like as good a time as any to insert a shameless plug. (Go there and make it feel less lonely)


I get you Tim, at least on the wanting to be married first. I'm not religious, but I would prefer to have a relationship rather than a sex buddy.

However, I must say... Isn't it counterproductive to say: oh well, god will forgive me so I guess it's alright as long as I say I'm sorry.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:05 am


Howdy all, what's going on in this thread?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:42 am


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@ Niaj
confused Honestly, we don't do that stuff... As an aspiring preacher, I'd like to call myself a priest, but apparently that title is Catholic specific ( come on you guys, share the titles. xD ), I don't plan on it until she has a ring on her finger. That might change since she has recently began showing intrest in it, but I'm attempting to retain myself and her. The battle is a losing one I'm affraid... But God forgives, so long as I repent my sins in his honor. ( I've never quite understood his forgiveness. It seems unreal to me, but then again, I do find the world as almost completely rotten to the core, myself included saddly. )

I'm gonna have to call you out on some of this. I haven't read your previous posts, but I'm pretty sure I understand what you're referring to here...

1. You don't seem to have a strong conviction 'not to do it' before she has a ring on her finger, since if she shows interest you might consider disregarding your own belief. I would suggest figuring out what you want and sticking to it... because you only get one shot and then your conviction is thrown out the window if you give in.

...I will say however, as a married man, who did wait... physical stuff only clouds the mind. Waiting until your married has the great benefit of forging a real relationship with someone without all the physical stuff clouding your judgment. Just my opinion though I guess, take it as you will.

2. "The battle is a losing one I'm affraid... But God forgives, so long as I repent my sins in his honor. "

- This is not the proper attitude when engaging the Grace of God. Does he forgive? Yes... Should we sin so that grace can abound (As was specifically mentioned by Paul) ? Absolutely not.

...the battle is a losing one, yes... But we are to run the race as if we were planning to win the prize. You cannot simply disband your morals and convictions with the attitude that God will forgive me later... that's not really acknowledging that you desire to be a child of God. It's a pretty hollow view of Christianity too.


{{Note to all: These are my opinions, but more aptly put, My opinions based off of what I know of the Bible and Jesus' teachings. I'm not trying to preach here, just trying to engage with Tv on what he's been discussing. I acknowledge that not everyone will agree with me, but I thought I should weigh in. Thanks for not misunderstanding this post!}}

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:10 pm


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@ Niaj
confused Honestly, we don't do that stuff... As an aspiring preacher, I'd like to call myself a priest, but apparently that title is Catholic specific ( come on you guys, share the titles. xD ), I don't plan on it until she has a ring on her finger. That might change since she has recently began showing intrest in it, but I'm attempting to retain myself and her. The battle is a losing one I'm affraid... But God forgives, so long as I repent my sins in his honor. ( I've never quite understood his forgiveness. It seems unreal to me, but then again, I do find the world as almost completely rotten to the core, myself included saddly. )

I'm gonna have to call you out on some of this. I haven't read your previous posts, but I'm pretty sure I understand what you're referring to here...

1. You don't seem to have a strong conviction 'not to do it' before she has a ring on her finger, since if she shows interest you might consider disregarding your own belief. I would suggest figuring out what you want and sticking to it... because you only get one shot and then your conviction is thrown out the window if you give in.

...I will say however, as a married man, who did wait... physical stuff only clouds the mind. Waiting until your married has the great benefit of forging a real relationship with someone without all the physical stuff clouding your judgment. Just my opinion though I guess, take it as you will.

2. "The battle is a losing one I'm affraid... But God forgives, so long as I repent my sins in his honor. "

- This is not the proper attitude when engaging the Grace of God. Does he forgive? Yes... Should we sin so that grace can abound (As was specifically mentioned by Paul) ? Absolutely not.

...the battle is a losing one, yes... But we are to run the race as if we were planning to win the prize. You cannot simply disband your morals and convictions with the attitude that God will forgive me later... that's not really acknowledging that you desire to be a child of God. It's a pretty hollow view of Christianity too.


{{Note to all: These are my opinions, but more aptly put, My opinions based off of what I know of the Bible and Jesus' teachings. I'm not trying to preach here, just trying to engage with Tv on what he's been discussing. I acknowledge that not everyone will agree with me, but I thought I should weigh in. Thanks for not misunderstanding this post!}}


1. It isn't my belief that Premarital intercourse is bad. In fact, if it were hell worthy, then most of civilization before the medival times would be burning in hell. ( Not to say they already weren't because of the lack of belief in the holy spirit which is one of the things God says is an insta- hell pass. ) Marriage is a fairly new thing to the human race, monogamy isn't, but marriage is.

I would love to wait, but she is in the grade behind mine, and she is thinking about college. Therefore, I don't want to have her wedlocked until she is out of college, this way she doesn't feel the need to seek my approval for things, since she commonly asks my opinion on several subjects ( Scary huh Hinote? ) regularly. Not to mention I'm planning on going into the military, and since that would last around four years minimum, I'd have boot camp out of the way in the year she is still in Highschool and I'm out, I'd be more capable of being able to marry her immediatly after I'm honorably discharged, and I might return for about 20 or so more years afterwards. So taking all of tht into consideration, that is an extra 5 years before Marriage is an option.

2. That's not what I meant by it. I would honestly repent for any sin I commit, should premarital intercourse be a sin after all. I'm not saying I know God's mind, and I dislike when people say they do. I haven't read the bible cover to cover, so I can't rightfully remember a passage about premarital intercourse being a bad thing.

I'm more devout than some around me, but I do occasionally wear the grace of God only hollowly, and when I realise what I've done, I repent, and give up something I desire for a while, often a month, or I won't eat for about 3 or 4 days. I don't see any problems around my town that can be remedied so I can't repent in that way, and my church isn't a missionary church, so I'm unable to repent in that way.

( Note to Cobra: I know my wording is odd, and I have no idea why it is so, probably because I like the old ways of speech much more than the way people speak now, and it is an odd mixture of both, but I acknowledge your opinion, and share some of them slightly. )
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:15 pm


I believe in the God-Emperor of Mankind. He killed his only son for us.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:56 pm


Urgh! I need the knowledge to install things upon minecraft... I want some Mo' Creatures, and probably the planes mod. Dx
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:00 pm


Look it up online. It's not that hard, and usually only useful if you plan on running a server.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:39 pm


Ugh, I'd need a server?

Plus I don't particularly like online guides to things, I always seem to overlook something, and then I end up botching up the entire thing.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:42 pm


Hmmmm... If I had a better comp, I'd use my derp on in my room to run a server. xD It mainly just needs to be cleaned. =/

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 4:50 pm


Well you don't need a server, but it's better to have other people to build with. You can always just download all this stuff somewhere and find an easy online guide on how to implement all of it correctly.

And you need a pretty good comp to run a decent server, and you can never shut it off unless you want the server to go down until you turn it back on.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:08 pm


TvIaMsOqTuHeYz
2. That's not what I meant by it. I would honestly repent for any sin I commit, should premarital intercourse be a sin after all. I'm not saying I know God's mind, and I dislike when people say they do. I haven't read the bible cover to cover, so I can't rightfully remember a passage about premarital intercourse being a bad thing.

I'm more devout than some around me, but I do occasionally wear the grace of God only hollowly, and when I realise what I've done, I repent, and give up something I desire for a while, often a month, or I won't eat for about 3 or 4 days. I don't see any problems around my town that can be remedied so I can't repent in that way, and my church isn't a missionary church, so I'm unable to repent in that way.


Premarital sex, also known as Adultery, is listed among the ten commandments as a "Thou shalt not commit". So yeah, it's considered a sin, considering God felt it was notable enough to reference directly among only ten rules.

Lent, Fasting, and Charity are not repentance. They are ways of punishing yourself, yes, but that is not repentance. Repentance is the act of turning away from your sin completely. Dictionary.com describes it as being disgusted by your acts. In the Bible, the command to repent is always followed by some form of "And sin no more.". It's not giving up something unrelated to your sin, it's giving up the sin itself entirely.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:08 pm


Anonymous_Alcoholic
Well you don't need a server, but it's better to have other people to build with. You can always just download all this stuff somewhere and find an easy online guide on how to implement all of it correctly.

And you need a pretty good comp to run a decent server, and you can never shut it off unless you want the server to go down until you turn it back on.

It is, and the server I'm currently a member of has no mods, which is entertaining, but everyone mines everything of use within like a 20 unit area each around the spawn point. Honestly I'd like a roleplay server, but I was a part of one before, and The people there were just idiots, I had died because someone led a crapload of skeletons my way, ran into my house, and left me outside to die. Then they yoinked all of my stuff and wouldn't give it back. Then, the mods of the server just happened to be bestest buddies with the people, and said they didn't have to give my stuff back. Yeah, so I left.

Meh, the comp could be running for a couple of years, and I'd wipe it clean and use it solely for the server. xD
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