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 Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:30 am
Unrelinquished Despair Unrelinquished Despair I have a question... can I edit one of my characters a bit? Namely Manami. I want to change his second specialty, and his Secondary/Tertiary attributes. I haven't really used him much, probably only about 10-15 posts in total. What I want to do: Change his secondary attribute to sexy, tertiary to speed. Change second specialty to Sensei.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:19 pm
-o-Havik-o- TvIaMsOqTuHeYz Is an Alchemy bloodline capable of being created? @Sk Loda:What exactly do you consider a "Flash step"? Just a sudden quick burst of speed. I was trying to find a video that contained an example from one of the episodes I was thinking of, but none were there, and I didn't feel like linking an entire episode. I know that in Naruto's fight with sasuke on the lake, he moved so fast that he was already gone, and the water from his movement kicked up a second later. Or vs Neji where he sort of just disappears and re-appears in the air behind Neji. Just a very short distance burst of speed, really. I think I remember somebody saying that performing a flash step simply costed 3 chakra, but I can't remember if it was in this guild, and if it was in this guild, I'm not sure of the circumstances.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:56 pm
SK Loda -o-Havik-o- @Sk Loda:What exactly do you consider a "Flash step"? Just a sudden quick burst of speed. I was trying to find a video that contained an example from one of the episodes I was thinking of, but none were there, and I didn't feel like linking an entire episode. I know that in Naruto's fight with sasuke on the lake, he moved so fast that he was already gone, and the water from his movement kicked up a second later. Or vs Neji where he sort of just disappears and re-appears in the air behind Neji. Just a very short distance burst of speed, really. I think I remember somebody saying that performing a flash step simply costed 3 chakra, but I can't remember if it was in this guild, and if it was in this guild, I'm not sure of the circumstances. -Knows excatly what you are talking about- It is a form of chakra manipulation, like tree/wall walk. You put your chakra into your feet, and it increases you movement for a few seconds.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:43 pm
Antonio Inferni SK Loda -o-Havik-o- @Sk Loda:What exactly do you consider a "Flash step"? Just a sudden quick burst of speed. I was trying to find a video that contained an example from one of the episodes I was thinking of, but none were there, and I didn't feel like linking an entire episode. I know that in Naruto's fight with sasuke on the lake, he moved so fast that he was already gone, and the water from his movement kicked up a second later. Or vs Neji where he sort of just disappears and re-appears in the air behind Neji. Just a very short distance burst of speed, really. I think I remember somebody saying that performing a flash step simply costed 3 chakra, but I can't remember if it was in this guild, and if it was in this guild, I'm not sure of the circumstances. -Knows excatly what you are talking about- It is a form of chakra manipulation, like tree/wall walk. You put your chakra into your feet, and it increases you movement for a few seconds. Yea =/, that. XD But anyways, yea. Is it a certain skill? Or is it a jutsu? Because if it is a jutsu, it isn't on the list. O.O
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:48 pm
SK Loda Antonio Inferni SK Loda -o-Havik-o- @Sk Loda:What exactly do you consider a "Flash step"? Just a sudden quick burst of speed. I was trying to find a video that contained an example from one of the episodes I was thinking of, but none were there, and I didn't feel like linking an entire episode. I know that in Naruto's fight with sasuke on the lake, he moved so fast that he was already gone, and the water from his movement kicked up a second later. Or vs Neji where he sort of just disappears and re-appears in the air behind Neji. Just a very short distance burst of speed, really. I think I remember somebody saying that performing a flash step simply costed 3 chakra, but I can't remember if it was in this guild, and if it was in this guild, I'm not sure of the circumstances. -Knows excatly what you are talking about- It is a form of chakra manipulation, like tree/wall walk. You put your chakra into your feet, and it increases you movement for a few seconds. Yea =/, that. XD But anyways, yea. Is it a certain skill? Or is it a jutsu? Because if it is a jutsu, it isn't on the list. O.O Wasn't what Neji did the Body Flicker Jutsu though?
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:59 pm
bb3000ae SK Loda Antonio Inferni SK Loda -o-Havik-o- @Sk Loda:What exactly do you consider a "Flash step"? Just a sudden quick burst of speed. I was trying to find a video that contained an example from one of the episodes I was thinking of, but none were there, and I didn't feel like linking an entire episode. I know that in Naruto's fight with sasuke on the lake, he moved so fast that he was already gone, and the water from his movement kicked up a second later. Or vs Neji where he sort of just disappears and re-appears in the air behind Neji. Just a very short distance burst of speed, really. I think I remember somebody saying that performing a flash step simply costed 3 chakra, but I can't remember if it was in this guild, and if it was in this guild, I'm not sure of the circumstances. -Knows excatly what you are talking about- It is a form of chakra manipulation, like tree/wall walk. You put your chakra into your feet, and it increases you movement for a few seconds. Yea =/, that. XD But anyways, yea. Is it a certain skill? Or is it a jutsu? Because if it is a jutsu, it isn't on the list. O.O Wasn't what Neji did the Body Flicker Jutsu though? I'm talking about what Naruto did, once he brought the Nine Tails chakra out, but regardless, is that technique available? Or is it just a universal ninja move that doesn't have a real name in this guild? Or is that move just totally not in this guild?
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:13 pm
Awww... I recently started rewatching Fma, that's why I asked. xD I was inspired to make multiple bloodlines, All based off of the State alchemists. xD I would have loved to have used the Kimbley bloodline. TT^TT
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:13 pm
TvIaMsOqTuHeYz What rank would a technique be that incorporated the drawing of one blade to parry an opponent's blade strike, while simultaniously drawing another to remove the arm that is holding the sword on your opponent? Granted, one way to dodge would be to have a rank higher speed, AND evasion, or to simply let go of your weapon, although you'll still run a chance of getting cut without the speed nor the evasion atribute. Because I want to create a style based off of weilding two blades, but i don't know if this technique will work, and it is a staple of my kenjutsu style for my second RPC who will be arriving the moment Dogou hits chunnin.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:21 pm
SK Loda bb3000ae SK Loda Antonio Inferni SK Loda -o-Havik-o- @Sk Loda:What exactly do you consider a "Flash step"? Just a sudden quick burst of speed. I was trying to find a video that contained an example from one of the episodes I was thinking of, but none were there, and I didn't feel like linking an entire episode. I know that in Naruto's fight with sasuke on the lake, he moved so fast that he was already gone, and the water from his movement kicked up a second later. Or vs Neji where he sort of just disappears and re-appears in the air behind Neji. Just a very short distance burst of speed, really. I think I remember somebody saying that performing a flash step simply costed 3 chakra, but I can't remember if it was in this guild, and if it was in this guild, I'm not sure of the circumstances. -Knows excatly what you are talking about- It is a form of chakra manipulation, like tree/wall walk. You put your chakra into your feet, and it increases you movement for a few seconds. Yea =/, that. XD But anyways, yea. Is it a certain skill? Or is it a jutsu? Because if it is a jutsu, it isn't on the list. O.O Wasn't what Neji did the Body Flicker Jutsu though? I'm talking about what Naruto did, once he brought the Nine Tails chakra out, but regardless, is that technique available? Or is it just a universal ninja move that doesn't have a real name in this guild? Or is that move just totally not in this guild? Well wouldn't that just be Naruto's ability increased by the 9 Tail chakra? But yeah i vaguely remember people putting chakra at their feet to increase speed. I dont think it has a name
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:26 pm
bb3000ae Well wouldn't that just be Naruto's ability increased by the 9 Tail chakra? But yeah i vaguely remember people putting chakra at their feet to increase speed. I dont think it has a name It wasn't enhanced by the 9 tails chakra, he was just using it to burst through him to unclog his chakra points which Neji had blocked. But anyways, yea. I think I read cobra saying that it costed 3 points of chakra.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:59 pm
SK Loda bb3000ae Well wouldn't that just be Naruto's ability increased by the 9 Tail chakra? But yeah i vaguely remember people putting chakra at their feet to increase speed. I dont think it has a name It wasn't enhanced by the 9 tails chakra, he was just using it to burst through him to unclog his chakra points which Neji had blocked. But anyways, yea. I think I read cobra saying that it costed 3 points of chakra.
Deil Grist SK Loda Can any character perform a flash step? I know in the show and manga it was sort of a universal technique, but in this guild is it a jutsu? Or is it just a known technique? Martin Spiralwave Your thinking of the Shunshin no jutsu. Anyone is capable of using it but it must be learned. Which, as explained in each jutsu, cannot be used in combat and its mechanics are being ironed out. Preliminarily it will allow you to go to any point within a village instantly, and allow you to shave posts off of your total travel posts needed to travel from village to village. Now, if you mean traveling IN COMBAT so fast that you can't be tracked or tracking is extremely difficult and without using a jutsu, then that would depend on how fast your character's speed modifiers make him. No speed modifier value will literally allow teleportation, but at a certain point it pretty much is (but still isn't).
*bonks you on the head* I replied to this question already.
But yeah, aside from the Shunko release (which requires the appropriate bloodline to use) , there is no technique that can be used in combat to instantaneously (or practically so) close the distance between you and the target by paying chakra. Instances of teleporting in combat are actually results of enhanced speed, not techniques that cost chakra to teleport the user.
In Naruto's specific case, the demon chakra made his body be able to move faster, similar to the way opening gates makes you faster/stronger. You can prove that it's a result of the 9-tails chakra in with two points:
1: The only times Naruto moves that quickly are when he is drawing upon the power of the 9 tails.
2. In his fight against pain, the more tails he unleashed, the faster he went.
The bonuses that hosts gain from releasing tails in our guild's system reflects this.
The 3 point technique you are referring to is the instantaneous technique, such as this one (C-rank Fuuton)
Kaze Shunshin no Jutsu (Wind Instantaneous Body Skill)
Description: An ability which allows the user to transport from one area to another in a gust of wind. The user has to have been to the area before, and be able to sense the location with his own chakra before being able to transport himself there. This means that the distance is limited to about one mile. This jutsu can only be used to escape combat, and may not be used in the same post if the shinobi has attacked or defended.
Every element has or will have such techniques when the villages open up, and will be changed so that they cannot be used in battle at all. I'm not sure if Cobra really means to drop the cost to 3 chakra, but those are the techniques he is referring to.
*Edit: changed 5 chakra to 3 chakra in the last sentence.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:36 pm
Deil Grist SK Loda bb3000ae Well wouldn't that just be Naruto's ability increased by the 9 Tail chakra? But yeah i vaguely remember people putting chakra at their feet to increase speed. I dont think it has a name It wasn't enhanced by the 9 tails chakra, he was just using it to burst through him to unclog his chakra points which Neji had blocked. But anyways, yea. I think I read cobra saying that it costed 3 points of chakra. Deil Grist SK Loda Can any character perform a flash step? I know in the show and manga it was sort of a universal technique, but in this guild is it a jutsu? Or is it just a known technique? Martin Spiralwave Your thinking of the Shunshin no jutsu. Anyone is capable of using it but it must be learned. Which, as explained in each jutsu, cannot be used in combat and its mechanics are being ironed out. Preliminarily it will allow you to go to any point within a village instantly, and allow you to shave posts off of your total travel posts needed to travel from village to village. Now, if you mean traveling IN COMBAT so fast that you can't be tracked or tracking is extremely difficult and without using a jutsu, then that would depend on how fast your character's speed modifiers make him. No speed modifier value will literally allow teleportation, but at a certain point it pretty much is (but still isn't).
But yeah, aside from the Shunko release (which requires the appropriate bloodline to use) , there is no technique that can be used in combat to instantaneously (or practically so) close the distance between you and the target by paying chakra. Instances of teleporting in combat are actually results of enhanced speed, not techniques that cost chakra to teleport the user.
In Naruto's specific case, the demon chakra made his body be able to move faster, similar to the way opening gates makes you faster/stronger. You can prove that it's a result of the 9-tails chakra in with two points:
1: The only times Naruto moves that quickly are when he is drawing upon the power of the 9 tails.
2. In his fight against pain, the more tails he unleashed, the faster he went.
The bonuses that hosts gain from releasing tails in our guild's system reflects this.
The 3 point technique you are referring to is the instantaneous technique, such as this one (C-rank Fuuton)Kaze Shunshin no Jutsu (Wind Instantaneous Body Skill) Description: An ability which allows the user to transport from one area to another in a gust of wind. The user has to have been to the area before, and be able to sense the location with his own chakra before being able to transport himself there. This means that the distance is limited to about one mile. This jutsu can only be used to escape combat, and may not be used in the same post if the shinobi has attacked or defended. Every element has or will have such techniques when the villages open up, and will be changed so that they cannot be used in battle at all. I'm not sure if Cobra really means to drop the cost to 3 chakra, but those are the techniques he is referring to.*Edit: changed 5 chakra to 3 chakra in the last sentence. Hrm, but there are other instances where chakra isn't involved. Such as in the same chuunin exams, when Lee and Sasuke both move fast enough to confuse gaara's sand. Sasuke simply turned his foot, while his other was off the ground, and pretty much appeared behind Gaara. Or, not pretty much, he actually just turned his foot and was behind Gaara. And even still, drawing upon the chakra of the 9 tailed fox would mean your speed was increasing because of chakra. So wouldn't that mean one would be able to do it still? Given, of course with the demon fox's chakra being potent and fiery, it would have a greater effect when used with Bijuu chakra, but shouldn't there be a general technique where one can use a small amount of chakra and be able to perform that instantaneous quick movement within a very short distance? Say to be able to instantly move behind an opponent less than 5 meters away? Or 10? And it could be done at the cost of X amount of chakra? Later in the show, that quick movement that is almost invisible to the eye at all, is really the only movement used at all. Sasuke cut the banners on the wall down before any of the Kage's were even able to realize where he was, and he doesn't have demon fox chakra. I know what move you are talking about, but I'm talking about a combat active move, that would be used primarily for fights, and during them, as opposed to the other one which is more of a transportation ability.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:55 pm
SK Loda Deil Grist SK Loda bb3000ae Well wouldn't that just be Naruto's ability increased by the 9 Tail chakra? But yeah i vaguely remember people putting chakra at their feet to increase speed. I dont think it has a name It wasn't enhanced by the 9 tails chakra, he was just using it to burst through him to unclog his chakra points which Neji had blocked. But anyways, yea. I think I read cobra saying that it costed 3 points of chakra. Deil Grist SK Loda Can any character perform a flash step? I know in the show and manga it was sort of a universal technique, but in this guild is it a jutsu? Or is it just a known technique? Martin Spiralwave Your thinking of the Shunshin no jutsu. Anyone is capable of using it but it must be learned. Which, as explained in each jutsu, cannot be used in combat and its mechanics are being ironed out. Preliminarily it will allow you to go to any point within a village instantly, and allow you to shave posts off of your total travel posts needed to travel from village to village. Now, if you mean traveling IN COMBAT so fast that you can't be tracked or tracking is extremely difficult and without using a jutsu, then that would depend on how fast your character's speed modifiers make him. No speed modifier value will literally allow teleportation, but at a certain point it pretty much is (but still isn't).
But yeah, aside from the Shunko release (which requires the appropriate bloodline to use) , there is no technique that can be used in combat to instantaneously (or practically so) close the distance between you and the target by paying chakra. Instances of teleporting in combat are actually results of enhanced speed, not techniques that cost chakra to teleport the user.
In Naruto's specific case, the demon chakra made his body be able to move faster, similar to the way opening gates makes you faster/stronger. You can prove that it's a result of the 9-tails chakra in with two points:
1: The only times Naruto moves that quickly are when he is drawing upon the power of the 9 tails.
2. In his fight against pain, the more tails he unleashed, the faster he went.
The bonuses that hosts gain from releasing tails in our guild's system reflects this.
The 3 point technique you are referring to is the instantaneous technique, such as this one (C-rank Fuuton)Kaze Shunshin no Jutsu (Wind Instantaneous Body Skill) Description: An ability which allows the user to transport from one area to another in a gust of wind. The user has to have been to the area before, and be able to sense the location with his own chakra before being able to transport himself there. This means that the distance is limited to about one mile. This jutsu can only be used to escape combat, and may not be used in the same post if the shinobi has attacked or defended. Every element has or will have such techniques when the villages open up, and will be changed so that they cannot be used in battle at all. I'm not sure if Cobra really means to drop the cost to 3 chakra, but those are the techniques he is referring to.*Edit: changed 5 chakra to 3 chakra in the last sentence. Hrm, but there are other instances where chakra isn't involved. Such as in the same chuunin exams, when Lee and Sasuke both move fast enough to confuse gaara's sand. Sasuke simply turned his foot, while his other was off the ground, and pretty much appeared behind Gaara. Or, not pretty much, he actually just turned his foot and was behind Gaara. And even still, drawing upon the chakra of the 9 tailed fox would mean your speed was increasing because of chakra. So wouldn't that mean one would be able to do it still? Given, of course with the demon fox's chakra being potent and fiery, it would have a greater effect when used with Bijuu chakra, but shouldn't there be a general technique where one can use a small amount of chakra and be able to perform that instantaneous quick movement within a very short distance? Say to be able to instantly move behind an opponent less than 5 meters away? Or 10? And it could be done at the cost of X amount of chakra? Later in the show, that quick movement that is almost invisible to the eye at all, is really the only movement used at all. Sasuke cut the banners on the wall down before any of the Kage's were even able to realize where he was, and he doesn't have demon fox chakra. I know what move you are talking about, but I'm talking about a combat active move, that would be used primarily for fights, and during them, as opposed to the other one which is more of a transportation ability. No, Naruto's body didn't use the nine tails' chakra to go faster. Rather, he didn't spend any. The simple fact that his body had nine tails chakra in it made it faster, like how having high octane fuel makes vehicles go faster: they don't burn more fuel, they just burn better fuel. And let's suppose we DID have a technique that lets you do that: what, then, would be the point of the Speed attribute when you can randomly spend chakra to get the bonus whenever you want, and move faster than the fastest Speed kage at any rank? You wouldn't: the speed attribute and speed bonuses are all about range control and tracking difficulty. If I can close the distance whenever I want and move in any direction instantly, that takes all the need out for the speed attribute. Plus we run into the problem of how we keep people from, say, drawing their sword and flash stepping to stab the target. It's just too powerful of an ability to allow for just a few chakra points. Plus, if you'll remember, Kakashi explicitly said he had trained Sasuke to become that fast via speed training, and Lee confirms this by saying that Sasuke must be feeling tired because such speed is exhausting to keep up, and sure enough: he was. We also know it's not a ninjutsu because Lee can't use ninjutsu. We know it's not an ability similar to the 8 gates (augmenting muscles for an extremely short time to deliver powerful results) because nobody ever receives muscular damage from these brief bursts of speed.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:12 pm
This is all true, but on the other hand, what's to stop a person with a sword from picking speed as a primary, and getting the same result as flash stepping? Or simply using the Reduced Earth S-rank jutsu, and having the same effect.
But I see what you're saying.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:16 pm
Speaking of Reduced Earth, I feel it does not need to be S rank. I mean all it is is a quick short boost of speed and its S rank? I mean if you want to keep it S rank at least give it more description cause it seems nothing more then the burst technique for the speed type and that costs A LOT less
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