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 Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:43 pm
I know, but I suppose I'm really raw about the whole situation, so it's best that I not become bitter.
Oh, I certainly will in the annual individual talks this January-February. Especially since my role at the current client is taking over for somebody else who I know is paid at least double what I am (and I'm taking on what was his full workload), I have ample ground to stand upon for salary negotiation.
Part of what bothers me is that my salary, while appropriate for a junior developer, is inadequate for several reasons:
1) CT has the highest cost of living in the US, so salaries are supposed to be a little higher here.
2) The client pays the same amount for me as they did for the previous guy, so my company can afford it.
3) I worked for 3.5 years as a programmer at my college. 1 full year plus 2 summers and 2 winters of that were full time, and the 5 semesters were 10 hrs/week. Combine that together and I have 2 years of experience under my belt, but nearly every company I spoke to back during my job search dismissed it sight unseen. Yes, I did have lessened responsibilities during the first 2.5 years of that, but I still gained a load of experience there.
4) Given the at least 2 full-time-equivalent years of experience I have, jobs requiring that much experience pay double at least.
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:51 pm
eek
Yeah . . . I got nothing. That is not an argument for a pay raise, that is a solid case to take over your supervisor's job in my opinion. I mean, you raise multiple solid points and can back them up with relevant facts. Just . . . wow.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 7:25 pm
I'll grant you that I half-botched my interview, but I'm always terrible at those. I even took proficiency tests they wanted me to take and scored well on all of them, so I don't think my interview performance should have affected that much (I did get the job, after all).
I appreciate the support. Yeah, it's so typical of business people to devalue those with technical backgrounds just b/c we're the get-it-done people (which is funny, b/c we're not, as we design entire systems and are thorough enough to think of every possibility, which the business users rarely do). *sigh* I've always hated the business world and the fact that Software Engineers are treated as low-rung business people instead of on the level of Mechanical and Electrical Engineers...
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:30 pm
Honestly, I loathe office politics. I have the old 80's work ethic in that I want my work to speak for me. I want raises and promotions to be based on what I can do, not who I kiss up to. Of course, that has led to missed opportunities and such sucks, but still . . . nobody can say I didn't earn every last thing I've done. No favors were pulled for me to get what I have.
In your case, not only do I support you as somebody I care about, but also for doing shite I can't. What you do is more complicated than I dare even try to handle. ^_^;;;;
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:13 pm
Yes, I uphold the protestant work ethic, which is definitely more in line w/ the 80s than now. That's why I dislike the focus on the 21st century's 4 Cs above actual skill...
While I do hold technical skill, you directly help people, which is certainly a noble calling.
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:22 pm
*faint smile* calling . . . but nobody's picking up. I keep trying, but nobody seems interested in hiring me. emo
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:28 pm
I'm sorry. I there's any justice, I know you'll eventually be able to find a job in your field somewhere.
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:45 pm
I do not have your level of faith, but appreciate the sentiment. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:24 pm
Then Yoder and I will have enough faith for you Magni.
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:53 pm
Without hope, it's hard to have anything else, so one must keep up the positive outlook (w/o being delusional with optimism).
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:10 pm
*shy smile* I keep trying . . . not much choice.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:14 pm
*sigh* So you get Thanksgiving off work?
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:36 pm
Yeah, we are closed on Thanksgiving, so there is that. We are going to go and see about some minor shopping on Thursday night, but nothing major. In one week we are gone to Florida for a family vacation. I'ma goin to disney.
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:07 pm
That's good, and I'm sure you'll enjoy taking some well-deserved time off of work for that vacation.
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:07 pm
In theory, we are certainly doing all we can to make it work.
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