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Miss Megan Gwynn

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:50 pm


No, you didn't. The trolls did.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:59 pm


Raven_Darkholme
No, you didn't. The trolls did.


Most of whom were riled up by the fact that Goku CANNOT defeat Superman.

I am...APOCALYPSE! scream


xd

Kyle_Rayner


Kyle_Rayner

PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:23 pm


WALLY! Where the heck are you at?

A while back, you posted a list of items (and a pic of my avi in them) that made up quite the honest looking Kyle "dog-collar" outfit. What were those items again?

Edit: Also, Id like my Connor Kent mule allowed here please, Im going to be switching to him In Loving Memory for a while. Thanks!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:23 pm


WEST! scream

Kyle_Rayner


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:25 pm


I'm pretty sure that Wally is on a business trip. Kitty should be able to help with the Connor thing tho.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:33 pm


Awesome, thanks! Somebody pass the word on to her for me please.

And does anybody have any suggestions for a Green Lantern Gaia-cosplay?

Kyle_Rayner


Nathan_Summers

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:46 pm


I could do it but it'd be gross misuse of powers. sweatdrop


and Kyle, good to see your ego has weathered the passage of time unscathed. xd
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:30 pm


I am here!

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Kyle_Rayner

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:56 pm


Nathan_Summers
I could do it but it'd be gross misuse of powers. sweatdrop


and Kyle, good to see your ego has weathered the passage of time unscathed. xd


Thanks, you know I couldnt go off and change on you guys, now could I? xd

Hey, could one of you please allow my mule, Connor Kent, back in please? TIA!
PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:58 pm


Kyle_Rayner
Hey, could one of you please allow my mule, Connor Kent, back in please? TIA!
The invite has been sent

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Kyle_Rayner

PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:08 pm


KittyPryde
Kyle_Rayner
Hey, could one of you please allow my mule, Connor Kent, back in please? TIA!
The invite has been sent


Thanks Kitty! blaugh
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:33 pm


Came across this article as to why Cartoon Network and Transformers dont mix. It also applies to DC apparently, behold:

Quote:

KRYPTO TO THE DOGHOUSE?
Inside Source Alleges Licensing Dictating Why DC Titles Being Dropped At Cartoon Network

by Steve Fritz

Fans wondering why Cartoon Network dropped Teen Titans and Justice League Unlimited may finally start getting their answers. As it stands, a very well-placed source inside Warner Bros. Animation informed me that the last currently-running DC-related property, Krypto The Super Dog, is also on the verge of being cancelled.

When it comes down to brass tacks, the source alleges the key reason is licensing.

"CN wants to focus on their own properties," says the source. "While I can understand this, I think that Krypto needs saving. I know it's not necessarily the most popular show on CN, but, it is a WB Animation/DC property, and so saving it could have very positive repercussions on the long-term DC/CN relationship. We weren't able to save JLU or Teen Titans because we didn't know that they were ending until too late. But if we act now to start a 'Save Krypto' letter writing campaign to the powers that be at CN, it might make a huge difference in the future of the show. Plus it shows CN there is a large fan base for the DC properties on their network, possibly paving the way for a return to CN of several other DC properties"

For a point of clarification, the upcoming Legion of Super-Heroes animated series is being produced by Warner Bros. Animation (under supervising producer James Tucker of JLU fame) and will be shown on whatever KidsWB will be called as a result of the WB/UPN merger.

It should be noted that Cartoon Network has been approached about this allegation, and a promised response has not been received as of press time.

On the other hand, I think I'm going to do something a lot of people aren't going to like. I'm going to look at things from CN's point of view.

First and foremost, here's a dirty truth about animation: Licensing revenues is a critical, in fact essential, element of a cartoon producer's revenue. It's as old as Felix The Cat and Mickey Mouse. Animation producers, except for feature film, never make big money from theatrical or broadcasting revenues. Licensing is the lube that greases the wheels. Felix producer and co-creator Pat Sullivan was able to write off his tremendous alcohol bills based on Felix merchandising. It was only when he got too cheap on the production of the cartoons (actually refusing to pay for sound in order to meet his bar tabs) that Felix stopped being the first true 'toon superstar. On the other hand, Uncle Walt's only bad habit was cigarettes. Licensing that giant pile of Mouse merchandise provided the seed money needed to build the Magic Kingdom.

Now one very interesting press release from Cartoon Network, one that I was going to report on this week anyway, noted the network just signed a major licensing deal with Mattel Corp., the largest toy manufacturer in the world. The master toy license agreement covers original CN properties for the 6-11 age group and also carries a first-look option on all newly created original series and programming.

For the record, when an anime, DC or Looney Tunes-related property hits on Cartoon Network, if CN sees any licensing revenue from those shows, it would be nowhere near what they would make from shows like Ben 10 (huge toy line coming), Foster's, Camp Lazlo or Juniper Lee. In fact, one informed source at CN did tell me his company as already making more money from Ben 10 than its #1 show, Naruto. It's all due to licensing. The lion's share of the licensing revenue of Naruto goes to Viz Media (or its Japanese parent company), not Cartoon Network. Likewise, even though DC Comics and Cartoon Network are both Time-Warner companies, CN has to pay a licensing fee to DC to produce a series based on their properties, and DC gets a piece of the revenue generated by any merchandise or other licensing deals that are based on the show's version of the characters. In the case of, say, Juniper Lee or Foster's, CN gets the whole big bag of licensing money, and doesn't have to a pay a licensing fee to anyone to use the characters.

I can rant on for a much longer time, but I won't. I could go on about Nickelodeon being an outright cash machine because it not only dominates the under-12 crowd with its programs but also runs all the licensing rights. Maybe some other time.

Let's look at things this way. From what I've been told by my source at Warner Bros. Animation, the ratings on Krypto are such that it's currently on the bubble. The person felt a good letter-writing campaign might be just enough to give the show a green light for another season.

If fans want to do this, or just plain vent at CN about the removal of all DC-related shows from the schedule, the best way to do that is to write an actual letter and send it to the following address:

Save Krypto c/o Programming Cartoon Network 1050 Techwood Dr. NW Atlanta, GA 30318.


http://www.newsarama.com/AniShorts/Ani277.html

Basically, CN and Transformers dont have a relationship, because Hasbro gets the money from TF merchandise, and CN doesnt. Wah, dont they sell commercial slots to make money?

Anyway, if CN has a show that they can get primary licensing cash from, then they will cancel a Transformers, Teen Titans, JLU, or Krypto (shows whom the outside party is profiting from) to make room for it.

Can you imagine if other channels only showed stuff that the channel itself made money off of?! Every damn channel would be a Turner Classics Network! gonk

Boo on CN for hating on Transformers, and boo on CN for hating on DC animated stuff, bad though that stuff is lately.

Connor Kent


Querl Dox
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:49 pm


Have you SEEN what they've decided I'm going to look like for the Legion cartoon? stressed
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:21 pm


Querl Dox
Have you SEEN what they've decided I'm going to look like for the Legion cartoon? stressed


No?

Vril Dox


Wally_West
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Familiar Phantom

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:11 pm


http://www.aintitcool.com/images2006/NYLegion.jpg


Stoned green midget about covers it.
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