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 Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:39 pm
Best: Zeiss. He is relatively easy to train and to me an invaluable party member especially once teamed with Miledy. I like Sophia, but I just can't deal with that horrible accuracy. Ewan and Nino are both too much of a bother to use as well, sorry to say.
Worst: Sophia. Yeah, I do like her, but once comparing her to Nino or Ewan if you choose to work at them, she just can't measure up. She starts with horrible stats and is hard pressed to hit enemies.
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 7:05 pm
Omgomgomgomgomg, this is another tough one for me, as my lolwtf way of playing FE calls for mass Est archetype spamming.
Best: Sara, the combined facts that she comes with Elite, can use staffs (starts with a B in them) which is pretty much the greatest thing in FE5 to use and you're forced to use her for story line matters pretty much cancels out her Est-ness. Honourable mentions to Est in FE1 and 2 for having a hilarious 70% growth in everything.
Worst: Believe it or not, I was actually thinking about Sophia for this one, Corpul as well for Sharlow being better and R/Lana being even more better, but I think Est (out of all people) of FE3 book 2 earns this.
Est: For some reason, SF's definition of Est didn't include her in Book 2, but she is absolutely hideous. She has good stats, yes (Est archetype, hurr durr), but you can only use her in three chapters to her full extent, then dismount rapes her.
@ FD, yes, that's how I play FE, my teams are 9/10 times: built on a big growth p***s. ******** availability for me, stats drive my teams. I know it might not be the most efficient ways of playing, but as long as dismount isn't screwing them up the a** and they have good stat ups, welcome aboard, high growth rates unit! Also, concerning Raddy's D in swords, you get an Arms Scroll a few chapters later if you're that picky about it, not to mention Forging anyone?
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:23 pm
Didn't mean to foreshadow the topic, Mel xD
Gosh, this is really hard because I hate Est types in principle. I feel like they can all go ******** themselves while my already competent and developed party keeps rocking it. I seriously wish they just didn't exist to begin with.
Best: It's between Zeiss and Sara, but I've got to give it to Sara. Elite goes a long way towards remedying her Est-problems. Staff utility gives her immediate use without her needing to be good at combat or have developed stats. Instant A in Staves upon promotion makes her of great use in FE5 automatically. Zeiss is just… not AS Est-ish as other Ests (joining time isn't that terrible, becomes competent quickly enough, good support options).
Worst: Sophia. At least other Ests have a decent enough chance to HIT things to GET experience. Sophia's hit rate, combined with her abysmal bases stats is just such an enormous hole to crawl out of just to become usable and POSSIBLY 'good' for whatever time is left in the game after babying her to no end and putting up with all her bullshit.
@Maji: You also know I'm not going to just say 'Okay! Radd gets the Arms Scrolls, and weapon forges, and anything else he wants.' Other people might make better use of such things and make things even MORE efficient, after all. ;3 …and if Navarre eventually having less Strength is what puts him behind, couldn't you just give HIM the forge by the same logic? Guess it's a matter of play style. I'd still maintain you were being unfair to Navarre, though.
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:45 pm
All right time for Nom's reply here
Best: Between Zeiss and Sara, this is a tough one. I've used both units, but in the end, I gotta hand it over to Sara.
For Sara, if you are wanting a certain character back for a 100% completion of FE5, you need to use Sara, since she is the only one who can use the Kia staff. On top of that, take a look at her abilities. Elite, staffs at B rank, and of course being able to use most magic types right off the bat. As much as I want to say Zeiss, Sara has this hands down from my side.
Worst: I've never played FE10, so can't say Pelleas. Never used Tormod or Nino, so I am not about to say them. I do not know their potential so I will not go with them. I would have to say worst would go to either Corpul, depending on his father, or Sophia. In the end, Sophia because of her growths
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:01 pm
I'll try and keep this less Lara-ish and try and not draw it out, but IIRC, other characters don't need it as bad as Raddy does (sure, Saji, Darros or even Kashim might like it, but Raddy will love it), give him the scroll, and all is well. With the Strength Drop, not only do you get like two main game, it also requires more to use to favour Nabarl and there is infinite more competition for it. I agree I am being unfair for Nabarl, but simply put: with a max team of 15, and my apparent weird way of selecting basing on stats and personal weaponry alone, Nabarl just doesn't fit in as well as Raddy.
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:29 pm
This is my last post and I'm dropping it. Someone needing something the most isn't a good thing; it's a bad thing. Radd doesn't get praised for needing an Arms Scroll, he gets criticized for it. It means you're comparatively handicapped. Anyone with an E or D (or possibly B for instant access to the hax weapons) in a weapon rank will want that. And the list of usable units that fit that criteria expands past Cord, Darros, and Kashim by a lot. Oh. And another thing availability nets is quicker supports. Radd can't be babied to make up for that either.
And unless I'm mistaken, there's only one Arms Scroll in the game, compared with the two Energy Drops. Wanting something thats even rarer is worse than wanting something there's more of.
And I don't think Radd is bad. It just so happens Navarre is better, objectively, efficiently speaking. I haven't used both simultaneously, because that seems redundant. But I have used both separately, and I'd have to say I prefer Navarre for not ******** around at level 1 that far into the game. I'm curious about using both simultaneously just to see how they'd do comparatively, assuming they grow reasonably close enough to their averages, though since Radd wouldn't be getting privileges, I suspect Navarre would still be outperforming him for the majority of the game.
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:39 pm
My last post too, apparently it's impossible to convince an efficient player about how to raise units as it's impossible to convince me that availability is THE reason to use people: Nabarl would be criticized more for needing both Energy Drops whilst Raddy doesn't even need the Arms Scroll if you want (in fact, I usually don't, I'm a good enough player to favour him and raise his sword rank naturally)
Like I said, availability means jack s**t to me, I don't like using Nabarl because Raddy has better growths, and two Swordmasters would be redundant like you said seeing as all the sword users are available to me.
FYI: Saji = Bord, just so you know. >_>
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:59 pm
Because a link isn't ME doing the arguing xD(Bord has a C to begin with. Giving it to him is just blatant favoritism. Cord clearly wants it more. I mistook their names thinking you wouldn't be insisting on giving the guy with the C rank the Arms Scroll when the other one has an E, because Bord really doesn't want it.)
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:59 pm
Yes, because a page of "Raddy isn't attractive" is an argument. :/
Just IMO, Raddy is so much more attractive than the wuss named Nabarl, but that's more along the lines of my opinion, not like the world needs another washed up mercenary with long hair who will wash your car for a dime.
(I didn't imply I kept Maj n' Saj as Axefighters, now did I? ;D)
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 11:51 am
Right, because that's totally the argument being made throughout it. Not factual statements like his bases are trash by that point or that he's outclassed or only doing chip damage for a long time or the like. The primary argument being made is about aesthetics.
Are we reading the same thread? References to his looks are sarcastic at best. Looks have nothing to do with the value of a unit. Gonzales is a disgusting monster compared to Geiss, but he still totally dominates Geiss as a unit.
(You certainly didn't suggest you'd be changing their class, either)
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 2:17 pm
So much for last post
Really? I know PEMN, but giving him a Steel Sword and letting get all the kills (favouring is a legit way of training~) made all the difference for me at least. Anyway, this is getting out of hand, Nabarl vs Raddy is similar to Kain vs Machis, people DO use him (Lowen archetype says hi) even if Kain joins earlier, but Machis is less squishy, up to the player to choose. Personally, I play for Endgame, not the chapters in between, so sub par stats mean jack s**t to me so long as they're godly come Endgame which Raddy always is.
(You think I let four Axe users run around the battle map? I just assumed you knew that I would reclass if I were to use the three of them, Darros included)
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:13 am
Best: Nino. Love this mage to death, mainly because its super easy to baby her up to a good level. She starts at Lv 5, which is a huge plus.
Worst: Sophia. Sorry, but a Dark magic user doesn't translate into a good Est character to me. Horrible hit rate and starting at Level 1 doesn't...its just...ugh...
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:12 pm
You know what's up. This week is best/worst Pegasus/Falcon Knight. If you don't know I REALLY do not like this class. Have fun!
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:24 pm
Best: Thite (FE 6). I would say Tana, but it's better to make her a Wyvern than a Falcoknight.
Worst: Juno (Yunno?). Why? Because she is married to Zealot...oh, and she sucks almost as bad as him too.
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:39 pm
Best: Fury. Yes, she is an FE4 unit, but unlike a bunch of the other units, she is someone that is an asset to your army because of the fact she is your only flying unit. But that is not my reason for her being my best. She comes at a decent time, so you have plenty of time to pair her with someone. And even if she doesn't get paired by the fourth chapter, you still have a good chance for her to get paired due to something that is canon. Not only that, but she has pursuit allowing her to strike again. Being able to use both the hero sword and hero lance helps her out big time.
Worst: Syrene. She comes in at a late chapter where you already have your team that you will be using. The main reason I would have used her was if I was going to utilize the triangle attack, which I never do for any of the games.
Man, I just prefer wyvern riders over pegasus knights
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