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 Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:15 pm
we are called to forgive others... does that mean we are to trust them as well?
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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:06 am
frog_mage we are called to forgive others... does that mean we are to trust them as well? I would say no... You can hurt others around yourself by confusing trust and forgiveness, they are not one and the same... Example: If a couple are in an abusive relationship, and the abused finally realizes that they need to leave and does so... would your advice to that person be to Forgive and Trust the person that abused them? You might encourage forgiveness, as it is a good first step to healing, but trust is another matter. We are called to be wise as serpents as well as gentle as doves (Matthew 10:16 I think explains this)... We can't be wise if we are overly trusting and naive. We need to be aware of the potential for hurt that others have for us. That doesn't mean we are not showing forgiveness when we remember someone's negative actions towards us... Forgive and forget is a falsity ... Forgetting a trespass negates the need for forgiveness...
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:58 am
that is an interesting train of thought... I was watching a documentry and someone got on and said God is energy.... nothing more
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:20 pm
frog_mage we are called to forgive others... does that mean we are to trust them as well? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." cant ******** remember That quote says it all. Forgiving people does not mean trusting them to ******** you over again. You can keep people at arms length and still forgive them for stabbing you in the eye with the salad fork but if you trust them to not do it again, then you are a fool.
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:23 pm
frog_mage that is an interesting train of thought... I was watching a documentry and someone got on and said God is energy.... nothing more Different religions believe that as well as different people. The New Age movement of the 60's - 70's brought that thought back around, then the rebirth of the New Age movement in the 90's. Then you got the past decade with the internet making all this stuff just run rampant. I blame hippies because if God is just energy then everyone is a part of the cosmos and we can all love one another right now.
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:19 pm
Looking for someone to make a banner for our guild. If you know any artist here on Gaia, please send them this link.
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/art-requests/requesting-guild-banner-art-open/t.79496781_1/
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:46 pm
Rob, I will ask around...
But I have to ask, is it better to leave someone in self pity? I have been trying to cheer someone up, who had a breakup with his girlfriend, it wasn't really a relationship.... more of an online thing, and he wanted to take it farther than she did(he wanted to move to her state and live with her, to put it bluntly) ... Now he is telling me, to ...
"I want you to Suffer, as I have suffered."
I am sorry, I don't see breaking up ...from something that never was ... suffering. watching a loved one slowly die in front of you and knowing there is nothing you can do to save them, losing all of your friends, having nothing not even food to eat, etc... that is suffering. But also, standing up every day and pressing forward that is perseverance
I don't know, maybe because I never had a girlfriend, I don't know what that feels like. Am I wrong to think the way I do?
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:35 am
glitterboypilot Rob, I will ask around... But I have to ask, is it better to leave someone in self pity? I have been trying to cheer someone up, who had a breakup with his girlfriend, it wasn't really a relationship.... more of an online thing, and he wanted to take it farther than she did(he wanted to move to her state and live with her, to put it bluntly) ... Now he is telling me, to ... "I want you to Suffer, as I have suffered." I am sorry, I don't see breaking up ...from something that never was ... suffering. watching a loved one slowly die in front of you and knowing there is nothing you can do to save them, losing all of your friends, having nothing not even food to eat, etc... that is suffering. But also, standing up every day and pressing forward that is perseverance I don't know, maybe because I never had a girlfriend, I don't know what that feels like. Am I wrong to think the way I do? I wouldn't want to see someone stuck in self pity but unfortunately it's a hard thing to help with since it's self inflicted. They pretty much have to want to get out of it before anything lasting can be done.
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:08 pm
rmcdra glitterboypilot Rob, I will ask around... But I have to ask, is it better to leave someone in self pity? I have been trying to cheer someone up, who had a breakup with his girlfriend, it wasn't really a relationship.... more of an online thing, and he wanted to take it farther than she did(he wanted to move to her state and live with her, to put it bluntly) ... Now he is telling me, to ... "I want you to Suffer, as I have suffered." I am sorry, I don't see breaking up ...from something that never was ... suffering. watching a loved one slowly die in front of you and knowing there is nothing you can do to save them, losing all of your friends, having nothing not even food to eat, etc... that is suffering. But also, standing up every day and pressing forward that is perseverance I don't know, maybe because I never had a girlfriend, I don't know what that feels like. Am I wrong to think the way I do? I wouldn't want to see someone stuck in self pity but unfortunately it's a hard thing to help with since it's self inflicted. They pretty much have to want to get out of it before anything lasting can be done. In other words, all I can do for them... is the same thing I have been.... be there, and pray for them
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:27 pm
glitterboypilot rmcdra glitterboypilot Rob, I will ask around... But I have to ask, is it better to leave someone in self pity? I have been trying to cheer someone up, who had a breakup with his girlfriend, it wasn't really a relationship.... more of an online thing, and he wanted to take it farther than she did(he wanted to move to her state and live with her, to put it bluntly) ... Now he is telling me, to ... "I want you to Suffer, as I have suffered." I am sorry, I don't see breaking up ...from something that never was ... suffering. watching a loved one slowly die in front of you and knowing there is nothing you can do to save them, losing all of your friends, having nothing not even food to eat, etc... that is suffering. But also, standing up every day and pressing forward that is perseverance I don't know, maybe because I never had a girlfriend, I don't know what that feels like. Am I wrong to think the way I do? I wouldn't want to see someone stuck in self pity but unfortunately it's a hard thing to help with since it's self inflicted. They pretty much have to want to get out of it before anything lasting can be done. In other words, all I can do for them... is the same thing I have been.... be there, and pray for them Pretty much unfortunately.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:28 pm
rmcdra Saber Talawyrm Tolerance is a virtue. 3nodding I tend to ramble, is there a better place to do that? ^^; I have been duly chastised and shall henceforth direct my rambling thoughts to this thread. d: But really, thanks for the link. 3nodding And don't mind me, I've been bored most of the day and in such a silly mood. ^_^;
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:41 am
 Chsh.... hate has been diverted.... I repeat... hate has been diverted.... over and out... Chsh Nothing to see here, peoples move along
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:58 am
glitterboypilot Chsh.... hate has been diverted.... I repeat... hate has been diverted.... over and out... Chsh Nothing to see here, peoples move along Hee, that's fun. ^_^
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 6:41 am
Saber Talawyrm glitterboypilot Chsh.... hate has been diverted.... I repeat... hate has been diverted.... over and out... Chsh Nothing to see here, peoples move along Hee, that's fun. ^_^ We try.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:28 am
We try. Looks to me more like you succeed. ^_^
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