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 Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 11:48 am
Alright here's my monthly deck help request. This time its a Red artifact deck:
Lands:
Mountains: 22
Creatures:
Chrome Steed: 2
Ogre Geargrabber
Hoarding Dragon
Steel Hellkite
Iron Myr: 2
Kuldortha Phoenix: 2
Barrage Ogre
Manic Vandal
Memnite: 4
Volshok Replica
Arc Runner
Saberclaw Golem
Hoard-Smelter Dragon
Spells:
Turn to Slag
Red sun's Zenith
Koth of the Hammer: 2
Lightning Bolt: 3
Galvanic Blast: 2
Act of Treason: 2
Arc Trail
Kuldortha Rebirth
Artifacts:
Strider Harness
Golem's Heart
Bladed Pinions: 2
Accorder's Shield
Dragon's Claw
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Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:55 pm
ghost_of_naomi this'll most likely be the first time i have put a decklist up publicly creatures (17) 1x blightsteel colosus 4x myr sire 4x plague myr 2x ichorclaw myr 4x corpse cur 1x hand of the praetors 1x lodestone golem artifacts (7) 1x skullcage 4x contagion clasp 1x golems heart 1x decimator web spells (9) 2x consuming vapors 4x doom blade 1x hex 2x diabolic tutor 2x dark ritual land 27x swamp if anyone can tell from the card names, its an infect deck, and a pretty darn good one at that The skullcage feels out of place in a infect deck. You want to focus on doing poison damage and Skulcage doesn't do that. As Much as decimator Web reliably gives out poison counters, it just ties up your mana and is too slow. You need infect decks to be quick in this standard. Hex to me feels like it is just too situational to be effective. I suggest adding some ichor rats to combo with your hand of the praetor that way when the rats come out your opponent gets two poison counters instead of one. Also, adding green will open up a lot of posibilities for ramping into blightsteel and also pump spells. Hope this helps.
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:34 am
ghost_of_naomi this'll most likely be the first time i have put a decklist up publicly creatures (17) 1x blightsteel colosus 4x myr sire 4x plague myr 2x ichorclaw myr 4x corpse cur 1x hand of the praetors 1x lodestone golem artifacts (7) 1x skullcage 4x contagion clasp 1x golems heart 1x decimator web spells (9) 2x consuming vapors 4x doom blade 1x hex 2x diabolic tutor 2x dark ritual land 27x swamp if anyone can tell from the card names, its an infect deck, and a pretty darn good one at that I would suggesting making it black blue for the counterspells. take out the web, heart, and skullcage. seeing that your deck is not standard legal it will be easy to work with your deck. IF YOU KEEP IT MONO BLACK First I would take out Hex for Damnation, because if they do not have 6 creatures then you will have to target your own guys. I would run Tendrils of Corruption over the doomblades (because you actually care about your lifetotal, you are gonna be racing them), (and i would run only 25 lands at most) You should have 4 of those lands be sac lands if you are not able to make them to be inkmoth nexus. Contagion clasp is good, but I would use Sign in blood over the proliferate abbility unless you have other thigns to put counters on, such as everflowing challis or walkers. (you should run sign in blood, chalic, clasp, and walkers in the deck) Pherexian crusader is a 4 of and a must. I would run them over the myr sire. they are posibly the BEST infect card being pro red and white. the thing with poison, is that you HAVE to go all poison DMG, if you have some Poison and some life dmg then they basicly have 30 points of life to work with. there is also a mana myr that has infect so far the best engine I have found with proliferat would be poison, clasp, and everflowing challic. because a game would probubly be turn 1 land, turn 2, land everflowing chalic, land turn 3 crusader or rats, turn 4 land, clasp sign in blood, turn 5, clasp abbility, ect ect. but i would run sign in blood XD Good lucK!
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:43 am
sky_rider19 Alright here's my monthly deck help request. This time its a Red artifact deck: Lands: Mountains: 22 Creatures: Chrome Steed: 2 Ogre Geargrabber Hoarding Dragon Steel Hellkite Iron Myr: 2 Kuldortha Phoenix: 2 Barrage Ogre Manic Vandal Memnite: 4 Volshok Replica Arc Runner Saberclaw Golem Hoard-Smelter Dragon Spells: Turn to Slag Red sun's Zenith Koth of the Hammer: 2 Lightning Bolt: 3 Galvanic Blast: 2 Act of Treason: 2 Arc Trail Kuldortha Rebirth Artifacts: Strider Harness Golem's Heart Bladed Pinions: 2 Accorder's Shield Dragon's Claw nice, I would take out te heart and claw, the lifegain isn't too consistant or playable because it takes up a whole spot, i would run elixer of imortality instead if you want lifegain. Act of treason can be mark of mutany instead. there seems to be a lighting bold missing XD seems like you want to play with metalcraft, so i suggest everflwoing chalis over the myr, creatures are easier to kill then starit artifacts. you dont need bladed pinions because all the things that you want to fly (the big guys) have wings already. I would run viridian claws over the harness and the pinions that way your 2/2's can be used defensivly until you get something more threatening out. if metalcraft isnt too hard for you to get then run 4 galv blasts over the lightning bolts Good luck ^^
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:40 am
Tagg the Terror of Death ghost_of_naomi this'll most likely be the first time i have put a decklist up publicly creatures (17) 1x blightsteel colosus 4x myr sire 4x plague myr 2x ichorclaw myr 4x corpse cur 1x hand of the praetors 1x lodestone golem artifacts (7) 1x skullcage 4x contagion clasp 1x golems heart 1x decimator web spells (9) 2x consuming vapors 4x doom blade 1x hex 2x diabolic tutor 2x dark ritual land 27x swamp if anyone can tell from the card names, its an infect deck, and a pretty darn good one at that I would suggesting making it black blue for the counterspells. take out the web, heart, and skullcage. seeing that your deck is not standard legal it will be easy to work with your deck. IF YOU KEEP IT MONO BLACK First I would take out Hex for Damnation, because if they do not have 6 creatures then you will have to target your own guys. I would run Tendrils of Corruption over the doomblades (because you actually care about your lifetotal, you are gonna be racing them), (and i would run only 25 lands at most) You should have 4 of those lands be sac lands if you are not able to make them to be inkmoth nexus. Contagion clasp is good, but I would use Sign in blood over the proliferate abbility unless you have other thigns to put counters on, such as everflowing challis or walkers. (you should run sign in blood, chalic, clasp, and walkers in the deck) Pherexian crusader is a 4 of and a must. I would run them over the myr sire. they are posibly the BEST infect card being pro red and white. the thing with poison, is that you HAVE to go all poison DMG, if you have some Poison and some life dmg then they basicly have 30 points of life to work with. there is also a mana myr that has infect so far the best engine I have found with proliferat would be poison, clasp, and everflowing challic. because a game would probubly be turn 1 land, turn 2, land everflowing chalic, land turn 3 crusader or rats, turn 4 land, clasp sign in blood, turn 5, clasp abbility, ect ect. but i would run sign in blood XD Good lucK!
thanks for your feedback, ill most likely add those cards when i get my hands on them, but for now the deck is a good as i can get it for mono black
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:51 pm
ghost_of_naomi Tagg the Terror of Death ghost_of_naomi this'll most likely be the first time i have put a decklist up publicly creatures (17) 1x blightsteel colosus 4x myr sire 4x plague myr 2x ichorclaw myr 4x corpse cur 1x hand of the praetors 1x lodestone golem artifacts (7) 1x skullcage 4x contagion clasp 1x golems heart 1x decimator web spells (9) 2x consuming vapors 4x doom blade 1x hex 2x diabolic tutor 2x dark ritual land 27x swamp if anyone can tell from the card names, its an infect deck, and a pretty darn good one at that I would suggesting making it black blue for the counterspells. take out the web, heart, and skullcage. seeing that your deck is not standard legal it will be easy to work with your deck. IF YOU KEEP IT MONO BLACK First I would take out Hex for Damnation, because if they do not have 6 creatures then you will have to target your own guys. I would run Tendrils of Corruption over the doomblades (because you actually care about your lifetotal, you are gonna be racing them), (and i would run only 25 lands at most) You should have 4 of those lands be sac lands if you are not able to make them to be inkmoth nexus. Contagion clasp is good, but I would use Sign in blood over the proliferate abbility unless you have other thigns to put counters on, such as everflowing challis or walkers. (you should run sign in blood, chalic, clasp, and walkers in the deck) Pherexian crusader is a 4 of and a must. I would run them over the myr sire. they are posibly the BEST infect card being pro red and white. the thing with poison, is that you HAVE to go all poison DMG, if you have some Poison and some life dmg then they basicly have 30 points of life to work with. there is also a mana myr that has infect so far the best engine I have found with proliferat would be poison, clasp, and everflowing challic. because a game would probubly be turn 1 land, turn 2, land everflowing chalic, land turn 3 crusader or rats, turn 4 land, clasp sign in blood, turn 5, clasp abbility, ect ect. but i would run sign in blood XD Good lucK! thanks for your feedback, ill most likely add those cards when i get my hands on them, but for now the deck is a good as i can get it for mono black right-o ^^' o also wrathing the board and then using inkmoth = free poison on them as well!
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 11:28 pm
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 1:38 am
you know what would be awsome with this. cloudstone curio. You can bounce your lands! and replay them! that way you wont need to use the "return lands to your hand lands" cause they come into play tapped. you can use it for mroe spells 28 lands and 4 ponders instread? you can run 2-3 cloudstone curio because you only need one on the field and you can probubly draw one up with the horn of greed. and you'll be able to replay lands. you acttually only need like 25 lands because once you get curio and horn of greed with ANY of your "extra land play spells" you are bound to draw more and more crabs and what not. 4 lands should win you the game
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:00 pm
sky_rider19 doing something different this time and showing you my prerelease deck and pool. It didn't go too well. went 0-3 unfortunately. Want to know what you guys think I should have done. My card pool: Blue Creatures 1 Blighted Agent 1 Phyrexian Metamorph 1 Treasure Mage Spells 1 Steel Sabotage 2 Steady Progress 2 Psychic Barrier Black Creature 1 Necrotic Ooze Green Spell 1 Tel-Jilad Defiance Red Creatures 1 Vulshok Heartstoker 1 Furnace Scamp 1 Goblin Gaveleer 1 Ogre Geargrabber 1 Kuldotha Ringleader 2 Blisterstick Shaman 2 Ogre Menial 1 Goblin Wardriver 1 Fallen Ferromancer 1 Kuldotha Flamefiend 1 Razor Swine Spells 2 Burn the Impure 1 Metalic Mastery 1 Kuldotha Rebirth 1 Assault Strobe 1 Ruthless Invasion 1 Into the Core 1 Melt Terrain Artifacts 1 Skinwing 1 Mycosynth Wellspring 1 Isolation Cell 1 Throne of Geth 1 Darksteel Plate 1 Echo Circlet 1 Dpin Engine 1 Vulshok Replica 1 Soliton 1 Pestilent Souleater 1 Conversion Chamber My deck: lands 7 Island 10 Mountain Creatures 1 Goblin Wardriver 1 Fallen Ferromancer 1 Ogre Menial 1 Kuldotha Flamefiend 1 Blisterstick Shaman 1 Razor Swine 1 Blighted Agent 1 Phyrexian Metamorph Spells 2 Psychic Barrier 2 Steady Progress 2 Burn the Impure 1 Metalic Mastery 1 Kuldotha Rebirth 1 Assault Strobe 1 Ruthless Invasion 1 Into the Core Artifacts 1 Isolation Cell 1 Mycosynth Wellspring 1 Skinwing 1 Darksteel Plate first of all im assuming this is a draft deck not a prerelease sealed deck. Drafting is probubly the hardest thing to do in mtg. with this block you need to decide wether or not you want infect or not pending on your first 4 picks. I think you just need help with drafting moreso then deckmaking with this pool The way I draft this block (which is also where I found to be teh best tech) is in NP pack, I would pick ALL the best pherexian mana cards, because they are able to be played in ANY deck. that way you are still open in colours, think of them as colorless artifacts. (of course it is okay to decide a colour later on) In the Beisege pack I would look at my picks and see how many cards I have that have pherexian mana. I choose THOSE colours, and I force it very very hard, that way you wont need to take AS much DMG but you will will be able to use the cool spashing pherexian mana cards in your deck without the fixing. By this pack you also know if you are infect or not. so adjust pending on the pack. the besiege pack i normally pick up equipmennts such as living weapons, that way if I am infect i can still use them, and they still are a creature to chump block if need be If I can't force it or it just doesnt seem to work, i will focus on artifacts. In the scars pack, you should KNOW your deck, and of course pick based on your picks, I would stay away from darksteel, UNLESS you are playing a deck that does not use infect, because then they can't deal with it at all Darksteel cards are mainly sideboard cards in this block. Of course if you do it this way you MUST keep an eye out for lifegain creatures because they will help you in te pherexian mana. Making a deck from a draft pool many people would probably make the same deck. so thats why im not really making a deck out of your pool so you can compare. most of the things you done I would have done too with that pool. I would suggest drafting more big creatures because answers are very limited at the big dumb fatties only real advice is to get mroe diverse colours FYI please post drafts in the drafting thread. thanks! xp
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:46 am
Tagg the Terror of Death first of all im assuming this is a draft deck not a prerelease sealed deck. Drafting is probubly the hardest thing to do in mtg. with this block you need to decide wether or not you want infect or not pending on your first 4 picks. I think you just need help with drafting moreso then deckmaking with this pool The way I draft this block (which is also where I found to be teh best tech) is in NP pack, I would pick ALL the best pherexian mana cards, because they are able to be played in ANY deck. that way you are still open in colours, think of them as colorless artifacts. (of course it is okay to decide a colour later on) In the Beisege pack I would look at my picks and see how many cards I have that have pherexian mana. I choose THOSE colours, and I force it very very hard, that way you wont need to take AS much DMG but you will will be able to use the cool spashing pherexian mana cards in your deck without the fixing. By this pack you also know if you are infect or not. so adjust pending on the pack. the besiege pack i normally pick up equipmennts such as living weapons, that way if I am infect i can still use them, and they still are a creature to chump block if need be If I can't force it or it just doesnt seem to work, i will focus on artifacts. In the scars pack, you should KNOW your deck, and of course pick based on your picks, I would stay away from darksteel, UNLESS you are playing a deck that does not use infect, because then they can't deal with it at all Darksteel cards are mainly sideboard cards in this block. Of course if you do it this way you MUST keep an eye out for lifegain creatures because they will help you in te pherexian mana. Making a deck from a draft pool many people would probably make the same deck. so thats why im not really making a deck out of your pool so you can compare. most of the things you done I would have done too with that pool. I would suggest drafting more big creatures because answers are very limited at the big dumb fatties only real advice is to get mroe diverse colours FYI please post drafts in the drafting thread. thanks! xp okay thanks for the tips and sorry didn't realize to put this in the draft forum. Sorry about that!
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:23 am
Standard BU beatdown
27 lands
4 creaping tarpit
4 drownd catacombs
4 darkslik shores
4 Jwar Isle Refuge
9 swamps
1 marsh flat
Creatures
4 Phylactery lich
4 pherexian obliterator
Spells
4 darksteel ignot
2 spell pierce
4 Preordain
1 elixer of imortality
3 black sun zenith
4 sphere of the sun
4 mana leak
1 jace beleran
3 jace the mindsculptor
its a deck that me and my crew have been comming up with, sideboard is still in the works. Hopefully it'll just be a deck that will catch people off gaurd in the open series. might more the spellpeirce out for distortion strike and move the spellpierce sideboarded.
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:58 pm
Standard Black Deck. we ended up scrapping the blue
24 Lands
3 marsh flats
4 verdant catacombs
13 swamps
4 tectonic edge (might change to swamps instead)
spells
4 go for the throat
4 sign in blood
2 mind sludge
2 mimic vat (might make this into lashwrithe)
2 lashwrithe
creatures
4 hexmages
4 gatekeeper of malakir
4 phyrexian metamorph
4 vampire knighthawk
4 phyrexian obliterator
4 vaultskirge (testing this guy out, seems to work well with the self sacrificial, and it's awsome with the lashwrithe)
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:31 pm
DECKLIST UPDATE
24 Lands
3 marsh flats
4 verdant catacombs
17 swamps
spells
4 go for the throat
4 sign in blood
1 mind sludge (might take it out for another vess)
1 lilliana vess
2 mimic vat
2 lashwrithe
creatures
4 hexmages
4 gatekeeper of malakir
4 phyrexian metamorph
4 vampire knighthawk
4 phyrexian obliterator
4 vaultskirge
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Sideboard
3 inquisition of zozilek
3 surgical extraction
3 dispise
2 dismember
2 lashwrithe
2 doomblade
Twin Deck
+3 dispise
+3 surgical extraction
-4 vampire nighthawk
-2 mimic vat
Cawblade
+3 surgical extraction
+3 inquisition of kozilek
+2 doomblade
+2 dismember
-4 gatekeeper of malikir
-1 vess
- 1 mindsludge
-4 vampire knighthawk
RB vampires
+2 lashwriths
+2 dismember
-1 mind sludge
-1 vess
-2 vampire knighthawk
BU control
+ 3 dispise
+3 surgical extraction
+2 dismember
-2 go for the throats
-4 obliterator
-2 phyrexian metamorph
RUG
+ 2doomblades
+ 2 dismember
+2 lashwrithes
-2 go for the throats
-4 knighthawks
Mono red
+2 lashwrith
+3 inquisition of kosilek
-2 mimic vats
-1 phyrexian metamorphs
-1 mindsludge
-1 vess
Green elves
+3 inquisition of kosilek
+3 surgical extraction
-2 mimic vat
-1 mind sludge
-1 vess
-2 pherexian metamorph
Valacut
+3 dispise
+3 surgical extraction
-2 mimic vat
- 4 hexmage
Quest
+3 inquisition of kosilek
+2 dismember
+2 doomblade
-1 mindsludge
-1 vess
-4 go for the throat
-1 pherexian meatamorph
Tapout (another group of friends have the lux cannon proliferate deck, no creatures besides inkmoth the deck wins with contagious clasp)
+3 inquisition of kosilek
+3 surgical extraction
+2 lashwrithe
- 4 gatekeeper of maliker
-4 go for the thraot
I need as much input as possible for standard. anything that me and my friends have been missing on. gonna try to take this to two diffrent PTQs
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:26 am
Ok, Here's the decks I've got at the mo, Gonna post em up.
Burn Deck- Pure red, focused on spilling damage. Not made for any particular format.
LAND
1x Barbarian Ring
23x Mountain
CREATURES
1x Ball Lightning
1x Borgadan Hellkite
1x Cinder Pyromancer
2x Fire Servant
2x Furnace Scamp
1x Galvanoth
1x Inferno Titan
1x Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
2x Mudbutton Torchrunner
2x Spark Elemental
1x Vulshok Sorcerer
INSTANTS, SORCERIES, AND WHATEVERY
2x Armillary Sphere
1x Browbeat
1x Chain Lightning
1x Dragon's Claw
1x Fireball
1x Fireblast
1x Hammer of Borgardan
1x Lava axe
1x Leyline Of Punishment
4x Lightning Bolt
1x Red Sun's Zenith
2x Searing Blaze
2x Shrine of Burning Rage
2x Unstable Footing
Oh, no you don't!- Pure black deck, designed around limiting an opponents options as much as possible, and then simply marching over 'em
LAND
2x Barren Moor
22x Swamp
CREATURES
2x Abyssal Specter
1x Avatar of Woe
1x Chancellor of the Dross
1x Crowd of Cinders
2x Drudge Skeletons
2x Infectious Horror
2x Ravenous Rats
1x Royal Assassin
2x Severed Legion
SPELLS!
1x Beacon of Unrest
2x Corrupt
2x Demon's Horn
1x Despise
1x Duress
2x Geth's Verdict
1x Lilliana's Caress
2x Megrim
4x Mind Rot
1x Mind Shatter
1x Morbid Plunder
2x Sign in Blood
1x The Rack
1x Underworld Dreams.
ELF DECK!- Focused on creating a load of token elves, and swarming an opponent with superior strength. Needs work, I know.
LAND
24x Forest
1x Slippery Karst
CREATURES!
2x Civic Wayfinder
1x Drove of Elves
2x Elven Riders
1x Elvish Champion
1x Elvish Eulogist
1x Elvish Visionary
2x Elvish Warrior
1x Gaea's Herald
1x Greenweaver Druid
1x Immaculate Magistrate
1x Impervious Perfect
1x Jagged-Scar Archers
3x Llanowar Elves
1x Lys Alana Huntmaster
3x Sylvan Ranger
1x Talara's Battalion
SPELLS
2x Blanchwood Armor
1x Blunt the Assault
1x Coat of Arms
3x Cultivate
1x Elixir of Immortality
1x Elvish Promenade
1x Explore
2x Howl of The Night Pack
1x Leyline of Vitality
1x Lingify
1x Lurking Predators
2x Rampant Growth
2x Wurm's Tooth
I would appreciate any critisizm, comments, yadda yadda.
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