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Tatsuman

Dapper Genius

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:11 am


Yamato1
Tatsuman
Reviewing the movie, it's a bit too early to tell whether Ganon is a clone or not. He didn't really do anything.

He has an uppercut that looks a bit like Falcon's dive...and that's about all we know.


If he clones, then I declare Sakurai a LIAR.

but at least his Final Smash sets him apart, right?

Demon Pig vs. F-Zero Racer?

Unless they work exactly the same, that is. xp
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:12 am


Maybe they will work the same way cry
but the new Ganondorf can use attacks from Twilight...
like his sword maybe... domokun

Josafat

Desirable Noob


Tatsuman

Dapper Genius

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:14 am


GAWNON...SLAYASH!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:15 am


Tatsuman
GAWNON...SLAYASH!!!!

xd That's maybe a good thought...

Josafat

Desirable Noob


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:16 am


Josafat
Maybe they will work the same way cry
but the new Ganondorf can use attacks from Twilight...
like his sword maybe... domokun


If they work the same, I will weep.

they made all this new s**t, all these unlockables, I would think the LEAST they could do is change his moveset.

But what will they do with Ness, for that matter? We allready know that Lucas's moveset is a clone-list of Ness. Save for the fact that his PK Flash is PK Freeze. They still work the same, though.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:17 am


Yamato1
Josafat
Maybe they will work the same way cry
but the new Ganondorf can use attacks from Twilight...
like his sword maybe... domokun


If they work the same, I will weep.

they made all this new s**t, all these unlockables, I would think the LEAST they could do is change his moveset.

But what will they do with Ness, for that matter? We allready know that Lucas's moveset is a clone-list of Ness. Save for the fact that his PK Flash is PK Freeze. They still work the same, though.

Yeah... that kinds of a bum...

Josafat

Desirable Noob


Meta_Fish
Captain

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:18 am


Tatsuman
Downloadable content is just out of the question. Maybe next time.

Not enough memory. Not to mention I'm not even sure the Wii can handle patching a game...

What we get is what we get.
Go look up Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles for Wii Ware.

The Wii could totally handle downloadable content.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:20 am


Yamato1
Josafat
Maybe they will work the same way cry
but the new Ganondorf can use attacks from Twilight...
like his sword maybe... domokun


If they work the same, I will weep.

they made all this new s**t, all these unlockables, I would think the LEAST they could do is change his moveset.

But what will they do with Ness, for that matter? We allready know that Lucas's moveset is a clone-list of Ness. Save for the fact that his PK Flash is PK Freeze. They still work the same, though.

Ness doesn't work anything like Lucas. Ness is pretty much his Melee incarnate mixed with his 64 incarnate.

Lucas' smashes are all different, all off his specials are different. (especially PK Freeze. It's nothing like Flash at all.)

Take my word for it, Ness and Lucas are very different. At most he could be considered Luigified.

No denying it now... Wolf is in...

Tatsuman

Dapper Genius


Syph Medwes

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:30 am


Meta_Fish
Tatsuman
Downloadable content is just out of the question. Maybe next time.

Not enough memory. Not to mention I'm not even sure the Wii can handle patching a game...

What we get is what we get.
Go look up Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles for Wii Ware.

The Wii could totally handle downloadable content.
In my opinion, they just need to come out with a harddrive. I don't care if it's crap, I don't care if they just take one that's already out and slap the Nintendo Seal on it, the Wii needs a hard-drive, especially for DLC. Secondly, and unrelated, how big are custom maps going to be? As in size on the Wii's internal memory? Anyone thought about this? Or am I still in the dark?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:33 am


Syph Medwes
In my opinion, they just need to come out with a harddrive. I don't care if it's crap, I don't care if they just take one that's already out and slap the Nintendo Seal on it, the Wii needs a hard-drive, especially for DLC. Secondly, and unrelated, how big are custom maps going to be? As in size on the Wii's internal memory? Anyone thought about this? Or am I still in the dark?
I don't think we need a hard drive... yet. We'll have to wait and see how much room all of this Brawl stuff will take up. Most Wii games don't take up much room, and VC games aren't becoming a problem.

Meta_Fish
Captain


Syph Medwes

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:37 am


Meta_Fish
Syph Medwes
In my opinion, they just need to come out with a harddrive. I don't care if it's crap, I don't care if they just take one that's already out and slap the Nintendo Seal on it, the Wii needs a hard-drive, especially for DLC. Secondly, and unrelated, how big are custom maps going to be? As in size on the Wii's internal memory? Anyone thought about this? Or am I still in the dark?
I don't think we need a hard drive... yet. We'll have to wait and see how much room all of this Brawl stuff will take up. Most Wii games don't take up much room, and VC games aren't becoming a problem.
I agree with most Wii games not taking up a lot of room, but I also agree with the Virtual Console thing. I mean, come on, does Nintendo honestly think people are happy with using SD cards as it is?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:03 am


Tatsuman
Yamato1
Josafat
Maybe they will work the same way cry
but the new Ganondorf can use attacks from Twilight...
like his sword maybe... domokun


If they work the same, I will weep.

they made all this new s**t, all these unlockables, I would think the LEAST they could do is change his moveset.

But what will they do with Ness, for that matter? We allready know that Lucas's moveset is a clone-list of Ness. Save for the fact that his PK Flash is PK Freeze. They still work the same, though.

Ness doesn't work anything like Lucas. Ness is pretty much his Melee incarnate mixed with his 64 incarnate.

Lucas' smashes are all different, all off his specials are different. (especially PK Freeze. It's nothing like Flash at all.)

Take my word for it, Ness and Lucas are very different. At most he could be considered Luigified.

No denying it now... Wolf is in...


His smash attacks are all that is different. PK Freeze controls and activates the same as PK Flash. Except it freezes. Hooray?

PK Fire is the same. Wow. It shoots straight in air too? Sorry, that's like arguing Mario and Luigi's fireball.

PK Thunder is the same. Nothing different.

PSI Magnet is different in that it doesn't surround Lucas the way Ness's does.

But the moveset is practically the same. With a couple of different effects.

And it's not like it would be particularly hard to give one of them a different moveset from the other. Ness's attacks in his game aren't THAT limited. stare

and hmm... Wolf fights a little differently from Fox.... though at least two of the special attacks I saw were copied from him...

*sigh* time will tell...

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Tatsuman

Dapper Genius

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:23 am


Yamato1
Tatsuman
Yamato1
Josafat
Maybe they will work the same way cry
but the new Ganondorf can use attacks from Twilight...
like his sword maybe... domokun


If they work the same, I will weep.

they made all this new s**t, all these unlockables, I would think the LEAST they could do is change his moveset.

But what will they do with Ness, for that matter? We allready know that Lucas's moveset is a clone-list of Ness. Save for the fact that his PK Flash is PK Freeze. They still work the same, though.

Ness doesn't work anything like Lucas. Ness is pretty much his Melee incarnate mixed with his 64 incarnate.

Lucas' smashes are all different, all off his specials are different. (especially PK Freeze. It's nothing like Flash at all.)

Take my word for it, Ness and Lucas are very different. At most he could be considered Luigified.

No denying it now... Wolf is in...


His smash attacks are all that is different. PK Freeze controls and activates the same as PK Flash. Except it freezes. Hooray?

PK Fire is the same. Wow. It shoots straight in air too? Sorry, that's like arguing Mario and Luigi's fireball.

PK Thunder is the same. Nothing different.

PSI Magnet is different in that it doesn't surround Lucas the way Ness's does.

But the moveset is practically the same. With a couple of different effects.

And it's not like it would be particularly hard to give one of them a different moveset from the other. Ness's attacks in his game aren't THAT limited. stare

and hmm... Wolf fights a little differently from Fox.... though at least two of the special attacks I saw were copied from him...

*sigh* time will tell...

You obviously haven't seen Lucas fight, have you? PK Freeze activates nothing like PK Flash. It's more like Din's Fire than PK Flash.

It burns in an arch and isn't multi-hit either.

Different in knockback, and distance.

Indeed.

No, it's not. His aerials are all different, his tilts are different, and the only things he shares with Ness are his FS and a few specials that work different.

I agree with this, but changing Ness rather than giving Lucas a new move set when Ness is the veteran would be kinda weak as well.

Yeah, he' fights different, but shares heavily modified specials.

Indeed it will.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:28 am


I'm just really happy that Marth is back and is basically the same.

Yin Yun Yang


QuestionableMeatProducts

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:32 am


Tatsuman
Yamato1
Tatsuman
Yamato1
Josafat
Maybe they will work the same way cry
but the new Ganondorf can use attacks from Twilight...
like his sword maybe... domokun


If they work the same, I will weep.

they made all this new s**t, all these unlockables, I would think the LEAST they could do is change his moveset.

But what will they do with Ness, for that matter? We allready know that Lucas's moveset is a clone-list of Ness. Save for the fact that his PK Flash is PK Freeze. They still work the same, though.

Ness doesn't work anything like Lucas. Ness is pretty much his Melee incarnate mixed with his 64 incarnate.

Lucas' smashes are all different, all off his specials are different. (especially PK Freeze. It's nothing like Flash at all.)

Take my word for it, Ness and Lucas are very different. At most he could be considered Luigified.

No denying it now... Wolf is in...


His smash attacks are all that is different. PK Freeze controls and activates the same as PK Flash. Except it freezes. Hooray?

PK Fire is the same. Wow. It shoots straight in air too? Sorry, that's like arguing Mario and Luigi's fireball.

PK Thunder is the same. Nothing different.

PSI Magnet is different in that it doesn't surround Lucas the way Ness's does.

But the moveset is practically the same. With a couple of different effects.

And it's not like it would be particularly hard to give one of them a different moveset from the other. Ness's attacks in his game aren't THAT limited. stare

and hmm... Wolf fights a little differently from Fox.... though at least two of the special attacks I saw were copied from him...

*sigh* time will tell...

You obviously haven't seen Lucas fight, have you? PK Freeze activates nothing like PK Flash. It's more like Din's Fire than PK Flash.

It burns in an arch and isn't multi-hit either.

Different in knockback, and distance.

Indeed.

No, it's not. His aerials are all different, his tilts are different, and the only things he shares with Ness are his FS and a few specials that work different.

I agree with this, but changing Ness rather than giving Lucas a new move set when Ness is the veteran would be kinda weak as well.

Yeah, he' fights different, but shares heavily modified specials.

Indeed it will.


It still sounds like you're arguing Luigi to Mario on this, Tats.

Ok, I'll relent. Don't give Ness a completely new list. But at least change some of his attacks in the opposite direction that they changed lucas's attacks.

Anything but a clone. D:
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