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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:24 pm
Vintrict gave up a girlfriend to keep getting better Speaking as a man, I officially revoke his testicles.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:25 pm
There usually is a minimum amount of posts required for a fight that can be graded, I think for HoH it was like 5.
If you don't meet that then I'd say you're just out of luck. Granted judges can always make individual exceptions and grant extensions because if real life circumstance, but if you don't say anything and you're not heard from again for another month, what do you expect to happen?
But I wasn't even talking about winning or losing in an IC sense. For instance, Snow and Rylen are very competent players who I think have proved themselves to be worthy of taking the whole thing if they wanted. Just their luck that they're facing each other in the first round, so a good runner is going to be eliminated earlier on. One of them is going to lose and be knocked out of the tournament regardless if they were both the best players here.
That's how random brackets work.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:26 pm
I wouldn't doubt it. There are a lot of really cool and good games I just don't get a chance to play because there isn't a big following for it at the local stores or gaming areas. It's not like going to Wal-Mart and buying a PC game where you can just bring it home and play with people online, so enjoying the full breadth of wargaming is limited by popularity.
Which is pretty much the only reason 40k is so popular.
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Yeah, I'm all for putting them under the same stipulations for the sake of fairness, since that's the point of the entire thing.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:28 pm
KB: I played it today. Some guy brought it in and offered to let us play.
(I work at a Hobby Store now, BTW. XD)
It was pretty damn awesome, but the following is probably very small. What is a shame, because it was a lot more fun then 40K.
You basically move a unit, do your s**t, then your opponent moves a unit until you've all moved your units and then you roll for initiative at the start of a COMPLETE turn.
It makes it more dynamic.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:30 pm
Lollipop Fiend 5 post instead of 3/4, whatever. Yes, asking Judges to make an exception, you're with us. Snow and Rylen has nothing to do with getting a by. That's how random brackets work - or don't work. ...Exactly.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:31 pm
Oh, so like... chess or some s**t. That's pretty cool. I don't mind the whole back and forth thing, but yeah... the move-by-move system can be really good for some things. Sounds a bit more dynamic too, for like a cavalry charge and s**t like that.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:33 pm
KB: Sort of. Its more strategy and less 'lolhorde', and more importantly s**t doesn't end in one turn.
Its a lot of fun.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:33 pm
And that's what I've been saying.
The 2-day/10 post idea is kinda dumb considering the crowd here usually runs at a snail's pace. And I'm not saying it's impossible, I could easily squeeze out more than five posts in a day.
Not so much other people.
Plus, even if we go with Option 2, we still have to wait for three, active competitors. Wait for their profiles. And then wait for their profiles to be graded, which looking back to a few weeks ago could take a good while.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:35 pm
Well, luckily we only have the active, go-getter judges and stuff involved in this scenario. We won't have to wait on the judges that have real-world issues to deal with or are just slow for whatever reasons, for profile review, fight grading, or overall fight problem solving. Also, we'll only have the same active, go-getter players.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:37 pm
My other suggestion didn't go over very well - let the people who want a by pass without having to do anything, but limit their ability to win prizes.
Though part of that just stemmed from the fact that I'm sure Roen is going to keep wasting gold trying to buy out judges or opponents. whee
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:39 pm
I'd personally set up a sting operation for Roen.
Tell a judge ahead of time "Hey, I'm lying," make a post that "I QUIT." and let the judge close the thread, receive and record getting the gold on Fraps, submit it to the judges, then go "GOTCHYA b***h."
I mean I'd win like 97 different ways there.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:40 pm
You got it down to a T, Vin.
The amount of dedication they put and the sacrifices they make is the reason why they're so good at it.
While on the other hand, I only have a friend I can play offline with. And it's not like there's a get-together at some local where ppl can play each other.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:43 pm
Don't misunderstand it entirely KB.
It's not the same as asking for option 2 which pretty much brings in somebody new. The request for an extension should come from a fighter who had a sudden crisis come up and is resolved near the end of the actual round, not the day that the judgments are supposed to be turned in. Pretty much it'd be the same extension people got already, it wouldn't be fighting the first round at the same time as the second, which is just pretty stupid.
And I don't know, you seem to think that only the people who "proved" themselves by getting the highest scores total should move on, which would work and all if there weren't brackets and stuff.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:44 pm
So I guess I rather be decent and have fun with it,
Which is why I don't care if MVC3 has TvC's control scheme.
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Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:47 pm
No, that's just luck ( and Vintrict allotting people to specific brackets like a meanie, so, bad luck ) that decides the entire bracket scenario.
What I'm saying, basically, is, if you and your opponent both score 0... that doesn't make either of you a winner. You don't get a by in a tournament where you need to win OOCly instead of ICly. If you haven't fought someone, you haven't won, if you haven't won, you don't proceed.
IC tournament structure has no relevance to the problem at hand.
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