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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:30 pm
maybe they ''misread'' certain passages, but, back to the muslims, they convert-kill because they believe that Mohammed, the creator of islam, did the same in Mekka, where the people didn''t want to listen. Yes, it is all a struggle of power, but the religion is the core. Catholics might want to show they are stronger, but if there were no catholics and protestants, they would not have someone to show that to, in other words would not fight. Without religion, a lot of conflicts would not be fought, because there were no parties to show their power. Yes, WO 1/2 could not be evaded but the catholic and protestants in Ireland could, partially. Perhaps still english vs. irish, but it would be partially different groups. Witchhunts, razzia, they are all religion-based... because someone had to be p4wned, In some cases one country p4wns eachother, without countries, those fights would not take place.. then fights between tribes would take place, not between countries. And in some cases, one religion needs to p4wn another.. and those conflicts are usually lot bigger then small tribefights. So yes, they do it for power, but religion is more then just an excuse... they do it partially for religic power, control over loads of people, it is also a cause..
anyway, I'm off
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:36 pm
It seems we both carrey a point in some matters. Speaking of Muhammed, yes, when he travled to mecca, any one who did not listen to him met there end at his sword. That a historile fact. Its also a histroicle fact that he was the "villiage idiot" of his home town, and that the reason he launched islam was to personaly attack catholosism for what he saw when he visited Rome once. I won't push the last two facts...can't take another internet jihad on my hands.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:38 pm
ANy ways, its not so much that riligion was the "cause" of those wars in liste din his signature, its how its stated at the end, as though riligion is evil. My point before all of this was this: If he can put that in his signature, knowing its goign to offend a few people (perhaps that was his desired effect), then I can post "Seig Heil" all the damn day if i want.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:46 pm
Noes! I missed Maniac. crying
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:54 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:48 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle I have my rights. I''ll do what I wish too. If you alloud to carry that sifgnature of yours then I''m aloud to mock Nazis. SIEG HIEL SEIG HEIL SEIG HEIL SEIG HIEL! Oh, by the way, the roots of those wars may have been stimmed in riligion, but they were started out of hate. Your sending a false message. I do not care if you mock Nazi''s I care that you are using something that was formed by a Regime that forever ruined any hope of there actually being a Worker''s Party. Sieg Heil was a phrase created for a man that ruined the worker''s party as well as defamed Germany''s name as a country. He also ruined the symbol of the swastika which was a highly used symbol used through many cultures for thousands of years. Before Hitler it had nothing to do with anything evil, and now its the symbol of hate and racism all over the world.
Also its just a signature, if your going to get upset over as simple as that then you should ignore it. Just because some of the the stated events werent about Relgion doesnt mean that religion itself is not the cause of many things, Good or Bad.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:50 pm
Also on a side note im not going to get in a debate or argument over such trivial and meaningless things so if you attempt to start one with me I will ignore you.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:55 pm
Sephi is going to say this one last time before he starts banning people, especially now that people have started tearing apart beliefs whee
Please stop talking about religion and/or politics before someone says something that upsets someone else.
Remember, if you miss or ignore this post, you better edit it P.D.Q. or be prepared to face the consequences. Have a nice day whee
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Sephiroth_2000 Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:16 pm
Sephiroth_2000 Sephi is going to say this one last time before he starts banning people, especially now that people have started tearing apart beliefs whee Please stop talking about religion and/or politics before someone says something that upsets someone else. Remember, if you miss or ignore this post, you better edit it P.D.Q. or be prepared to face the consequences. Have a nice day whee P.D.Q = Pre Dental Query? lol
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:17 pm
Whoo, yeah. xP We've lost a lot of members to these sorts of discussions. >_>
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Sephiroth_2000 Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:35 pm
P.D.Q. = Pretty Damn Quick 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:35 pm
xd *Glomps to K and steals her cookies*
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:42 pm
Teh Sephi-monster got my PM, ja?
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:55 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle The_Last_PlainsWalker Pyrotechnic Oracle ANd Grandpa Griffon looks like the old ***** form the same show. "Well hey there muscley arms, YOUR GOIGN TO BURN IN HELL!" XD ON a side not, Plainswalker has offended the vast majority of racker with his signatrue alone XDhuh? racker? Rocker. Led Zplen, gte the led out...unless that one of thier quotes >.<* It''s not really something they made up, but it''s a saying on the radio for when they''re gonna play a bunch of LZ. Like getting the need for a LZ fix out of your blood.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:57 pm
Ah okay, I htink I've heared of that now that you mention it.
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