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 Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:08 pm
Just Naota There's also the chance that the fighter in question is also learning the language. Or that the fighter in question is younger and isn't on the same writing level as other people. Or if they've got dyslexia. They might misspell some words, but their posts can make sense if the person reading stopped with their OCD for a second. They can be a decent RP fighter, but because they misuse a comma a few times or they use the incorrect form of "there" they're ostracized. I'm pretty sure that people are getting deducted .1s for spelling errors and grammar rules that they may or may not know. And if anyone ever seen how point-base judgements go. Someone can definitely lose by a .1. And why? Because some judges want to be cool so they act like Simon Cowell? Because they just need to ejaculate their OCD onto people's posts? I went down the line of all the matches, and either the writing was decent or the writing (in a few cases) was small and really underdeveloped. And in those cases, I think there are more constructive things to point out than "lol no serial comma." Even Vin said that the spelling/grammar section was trivial and he'd prefer if the GTB switched to a clear/concise section. So I know that I'm not alone as far as my opinions on this go. I agree that docking points because a comma was misplaced is pretty silly. I think docking points on grammar errors is pretty silly if it only happens once. I think it should come into play when people obviously don't proofread and edit their posts and make a bunch of the same mistakes over and over. I mean, it's cool in like OOC or MSN but when you're taking a considerable amount of time to write for an audience then the little extra time to clean up, and maybe even tighten up writing is a good idea. With that though I think it should be accompanied with what those mistakes were. I remember just up until last year I had no clue about how worse and worst worked until my professor marked it on one of my papers and pretty much spelled it out to me. I've received comments in the past about small grammar mistakes that were just ranting which were really unhelpful. If the judge is going to have comments and deduct points for grammar, they should probably explain the rule that's being broken. Wouldn't want to give judges anymore work to do though since they already have a really hard job. cry Buut yeah, grammar is really stupid since most of us make mistakes that we don't catch on to simply because English is stupid. But it can be to the point where somebody just makes the same mistake over and over and it does become distracting.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:11 pm
Lavelle Esculentus Saph: Oooooo diner and a murder! I LIKE IT! twisted heart Just make sure its bloody! I guess that means you want your stake rare then. Not a problem. *snaps fingers* Order up!
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:15 pm
Saph: As long as it is beef steak! wink No one should eat rare pork. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:16 pm
Well, more like the point is,
Writers have professional editors that review their writing before it's distributed to the public.
We aren't both writers AND editors, so, suck it. whee
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:18 pm
Just Naota There's also the chance that the fighter in question is also learning the language. Quote: Or that the fighter in question is younger and isn't on the same writing level as other people. Quote: Or if they've got dyslexia. Quote: They can be a decent RP fighter, but because they misuse a comma a few times or they use the incorrect form of "there" they're ostracized. Quote: I'm pretty sure that people are getting deducted .1s for spelling errors and grammar rules that they may or may not know. And if anyone ever seen how point-base judgements go. Someone can definitely lose by a .1. And why?
I'm sorry, complaining over how well formed writing is in a competition solely created in writing is silly. Don't want to lose by .1 over spelling? Stop misspelling things.
WEEWOOWEE.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:21 pm
To be completely honest I didn't spend more than 20 minutes writing any of my posts, and I didn't transfer them from Word either. The only spellchecking tools I have are the built-in Firefox one ( which often sucks ) and Google.
You guys should be able to write a decent post in under 10 minutes, let alone a fight post. If you can't... well, go back to Commerce and brush up on your skills.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:23 pm
Some of us have ADHD. sad
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:25 pm
I don't see what ADHD has to do with anything.
If I see an average fight post it'll maybe take me three minutes to read it. During that time I've already absorbed all the information and decided on a general reaction. Now, if its a particularly challenging predicament I'll spend about 5 minutes thinking about it... but usually I just write in a reactionary way. That's 8 minutes there, which leaves me about two to write out my response, which is pretty fair.
...it's not difficult.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:29 pm
I usually read most posts that concern me about 3 times before I actually start writing. Then when I start writing, I get distracted and either day dream for 3 hours or go watch TV or play games.
The only time I can ever just churn out writing really fast is when I'm sleep deprived otherwise my mind just wanders aimlessly until I finally get something down and spend the time editing out most of the redundancy that comes about because I often drop a thought mid-sentence.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:32 pm
That's why I can't stand fighting some people... they take way too long to answer and the mood of the fight keeps shifting, or they lose interest. I'm more used to the Commerce pace where a fight starts and ends without hours or days between posts.
I mean, if I had opponents that had my same general schedule, I would have been able to churn out 14 fights in the week it took some people to... not even finish one.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:35 pm
Ugh. Naota complains SOOOOOO Much.
Just have fun. Who cares how the judging goes, and who cares if you win or lose. If you get docked points, it's because the JUDGE who docked you felt it was necessary, not because they're out to get you or that they have some sort of hidden agenda.
Seriously... all of you who play to win, try having fun instead. You might surprise yourselves in the end of it.
And Naota... just... quite complaining. It's that kind of stuff that sucks the fun out of the experience, and what causes infighting among competitors, spectators and judges alike.
/Rant
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:35 pm
I guess sometimes it depends on how the fight is going too. I mean, if it's not engaging for you then you're not going to be really motivated to rush to post. Especially if it's a chore just reading it and trying to understand what, how, and why something happened.
When it's someone I can really connect with I can usually get a post done in about 20-30 minutes. But it really depends on how long I day dream about random things or if Ii get distracted on MSN convo.
And for the record, playing to win is having fun for some of us.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:37 pm
XD And playing for fun is fun for all of us. I like that better...
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:38 pm
Old Man KB I don't see what ADHD has to do with anything. If I see an average fight post it'll maybe take me three minutes to read it. During that time I've already absorbed all the information and decided on a general reaction. Now, if its a particularly challenging predicament I'll spend about 5 minutes thinking about it... but usually I just write in a reactionary way. That's 8 minutes there, which leaves me about two to write out my response, which is pretty fair. ...it's not difficult. You're being unrealistic. Let's look at one of your posts. I'm picking the first one on page 4 of your fight, which contains 133 words of content that you didn't have beforehand. That's 66.5 words per minute, excluding the time required for a person to think about what they're going to say, or backspace and fix up a fragment of writing. I just did that in the last sentence, and this one. There's also the time needed to Ctrl+C Ctrl+V that picture and those three copypastas, and... 2 minutes is damn restrictive.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:39 pm
It's not really fun unless you win
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