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 Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:13 pm
Well, it is hard for them to put up much of A fight when all they have are guardsmen.
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:12 pm
well if your useing armored units like tanks to attack an IG army watch out fr LasCannons and Rocket lanchers. and if your useing armored infantry watch out for IG Auto Cannons and Heavy Botlers (thats my oppenion to watch out for
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:14 pm
True, but that is the same for most armies. Where the IG really shine is finding absolutely INSANE uses for them.
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:13 pm
well in reality a laser does more damage than a bullet. unless your useing a Hollow point round on an unarmored solder (a hollow point bullet hits that target and breaks into little pieces of shrapinal (i.e ripping appart intestins and allsorts of other good stuff) theres also Armor Percing rounds and H.E. (high explosive) rounds.and in the use of a tank cannon or Artiliary you can have depleted urainiom(how ever you spell it) and those rounds do a s*** load of damage to an armored target. but it all depends on what the game allows for amunition types. but lasers vertualy blast a hole through anything.
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Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:00 pm
True, but it depends on how much prower you put in the laser. As to the hollow tpis, yeah, they are damn dangerous. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:41 pm
yea. what i want to see is GW make a Jeep Hummer like vehicle that can cary some men and have a gun mounted on the top like a lascannon,Autocannon, Rocket launcher, Gernade launcher, Heavy bolter, and/or maby a morter launcher (ill draw a scetch of what it could look like ween im down in Florida for the next week) it would be a cool fast attack/small transport vehicle
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Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:07 pm
Not A bad idea, I have seen A couple of conversions for similar vehicles, and they have turned out well. Those were for Chaos and Orks though, so it might be A little different for the IG.
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 9:04 am
Hans Mueller yea. what i want to see is GW make a Jeep Hummer like vehicle that can cary some men and have a gun mounted on the top like a lascannon,Autocannon, Rocket launcher, Gernade launcher, Heavy bolter, and/or maby a morter launcher (ill draw a scetch of what it could look like ween im down in Florida for the next week) it would be a cool fast attack/small transport vehicle I've seen a few converted Chimera's like that. And some VDR-based vehicles that would fall under that category. Just place a squad with the appropriate heavy weapon inside and you'll be able to fire it with a 360 degree firing arc. Downside is that the Chimera counts as open-topped.
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 12:13 pm
Yes, that is A problem, the other one is that they cannot use heavy weapons if it moves. Unless they have A rule that says they can.
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:54 pm
Relkin9 Yes, that is A problem, the other one is that they cannot use heavy weapons if it moves. Unless they have A rule that says they can. come to think of it, are there any weapons in the IG armory that fit that description?
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:01 pm
Relkin9 Yes, that is A problem, the other one is that they cannot use heavy weapons if it moves. Unless they have A rule that says they can. under the new rules, tanks can still move and fire one main weapon and their support weapons. heavy bolters fall under the support category
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:11 pm
Cagalli Yura Attha Relkin9 Yes, that is A problem, the other one is that they cannot use heavy weapons if it moves. Unless they have A rule that says they can. under the new rules, tanks can still move and fire one main weapon and their support weapons. heavy bolters fall under the support category Thanks Caga... (she responded... *honored* ) But I was really asking if a squad of infantry in a chimera could fire thier heavy weapon while the vehicle was in motion. I would assume that it would either A: be not allowed at all, or B: based on the strength of the weapon (in the same vein as the strength of a weapon on a vehicle determines if it can be fired or not. ) Sorry if I wasn't clear. But what do you think? A or B?
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:18 pm
Cagalli Yura Attha Relkin9 Yes, that is A problem, the other one is that they cannot use heavy weapons if it moves. Unless they have A rule that says they can. under the new rules, tanks can still move and fire one main weapon and their support weapons. heavy bolters fall under the support category True, but the individuals inside CANNOT. That means that the answer is no, they cannot.
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:34 pm
Relkin9 Cagalli Yura Attha Relkin9 Yes, that is A problem, the other one is that they cannot use heavy weapons if it moves. Unless they have A rule that says they can. under the new rules, tanks can still move and fire one main weapon and their support weapons. heavy bolters fall under the support category True, but the individuals inside CANNOT. That means that the answer is no, they cannot. Wait, are you saying that the squad inside the Chimera can't fire all their weapons? I thought that, as it says in the codex, the squad can fire their weapons, including their special and heavy, but the Chimera counts as open-topped. Of course, the squad could always just fire their 6 lasguns hardmounted into the Chimera, but I digress.
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:38 pm
depends on firepoints of a vehicle.
The rulebooksays:
INFANTRY FIRING FROM VEHICLES
Infantry aboard Vehicles can fire from firing slits, hatches or over the sides of the fighting compartment if the vehicle is open-topped. All of the models aboard an open-topped vehicle can fire. Troops in a closed top vehicle, however, can only fire from desegnated fire points.
Infantry firing from a vehicle count as moving if the vehicle moves, and may not fire at all if the vehicle moves faster than 12". This means they may not fire heavy weapons from a moving vehicle unless normally allowed to fire heavy weapons while moving.
If passengers fire from a closed vehicle and any of them do not have a saving throw of 2+ or 3+ (using the best of Armour Save and Invulnerable Save), then in the following player tur, enemy firing at or assaulting the vehicle count it as open-topped to represent the chance of hitting exposed passengers and the hits passing into the vehicle. This rule does not apply to the firing weapons built onto a vehicle, such as the Chimera's lasguns, or a pintle-mounted storm bolter, for example.
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