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 Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 2:19 pm
I agree with gay marage but I just recently realized the other sides argument, correct me if im wrong but is marrige not a union between a man and a women?
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:26 pm
Uhhm, I'm not sure how one know's that they are gay.
But I think if you are you should still be allowed to marry. Just because it's not the conventional man/woman doesn't mean it's wrong.
If you love someone, it's your choice if you want to spend the rest of your life with them, not the government's choice to make for you.
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:40 pm
. M i d n i g h t . Uhhm, I'm not sure how one know's that they are gay.
But I think if you are you should still be allowed to marry. Just because it's not the conventional man/woman doesn't mean it's wrong.
If you love someone, it's your choice if you want to spend the rest of your life with them, not the government's choice to make for you.
I don't really know how to explain it, So I'll just tell you how I knew I was bi.
I'm sure you've had crushes, and felt sexual feelings twords males, well I felt that way twords a female.
It's doesn't make sense, but if your gay you will know. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 8:42 pm
I see banning gay marriage as a total violation of rights. I'm not gay personally, but I find it very disgusting that in our country, the country of "Freedom," gay people are discriminated against and not allowed to marry who they want to. I see this as another way our president is a complete idiot (no offence to those who think differently, but why are you debating if you can't accept insults?).
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:11 am
David Schmutte I agree with gay marage but I just recently realized the other sides argument, correct me if im wrong but is marrige not a union between a man and a women? Yes thats right. Homosexuality has been around for years, the Greeks use to practice it often. Men married a women and had sexual relationships with younger men. So it has been around for ages and yet marriage was made between a man and women. SO sure let gays be joined just don't call it marriage. Sorry but unless there is proof which there isn't, there is only speculation I don't believe that there is a 'gay gene' just like I don't believe there is a 'murder gene'. The choice may be an unconscious one there is nothing to say it is a choice you will consciously make but I think its a choice none the less or maybe a different balance of chemicals in the brain. That is my opinion and will be until there is proof otherwise.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:51 pm
Gay marriage should be legal, but this is not a matter of love. Love is when you get married by the church, and gay couples can find a church that will marry them. This is a matter of equal rights, of gays and lesbians having the same rights as straights. The right of having a marriage recognized by the constitution and having rights within that marriage. There have been many times in situations where one gay couple would live together for many years, and get married under the church but not under the law. So when one passes away, a family member can come and take everything away from the partner, family that had made their lives impossible, and took everything they had built together away. It is law, and since they had no marriage recognized by the constitution, they have no protection. It's happened before, and it's really sad.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:49 am
Interesting definition of love but I agree with you on the most part. They should be allowed the piece of paper that straight people get so they have the same rights if their partner dies.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:05 pm
marshjazz Well, she has never been in a gay relationship, but she insists that she is bi. It's not like they made her become bi, or forced her into anything, or even influenced/encouraged her descion, atleast as far as I know. she just choose to because she thinks it makes her get more attension. Then she's not really bi. She's just pretending. There are a lot of people (mostly girls) who do that and I doubt any of them have any real, honest attraction to the same sex. They just aren't disgusted by the idea of making out with another girl to get attention. You cannot 'choose' to be gay or straight or bi any more than you can 'choose' who you're attracted to. You can choose to pretend, you can choose to convince yourself of a false attraction, and you can choose to ignore the attraction, but that doesn't change your fundamental orientation.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:24 pm
I completely disagree, there are many people who do choose to be homosexual which isn't about attention. I honestly believe that most if not all people can love either gender, though its a choice whether you want to be straight or homosexual. There is no proof either way so thats what I believe and what I have seen happen.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:34 pm
Remove I completely disagree, there are many people who do choose to be homosexual which isn't about attention. I honestly believe that most if not all people can love either gender, though its a choice whether you want to be straight or homosexual. There is no proof either way so thats what I believe and what I have seen happen. See, the way I would interpret that is an innate bisexuality and people choosing which side of it to pay the more attention to. It still doesn't change the base orientation. We might just have incompatible beliefs about this, but I simply cannot comprehend someone honestly deciding what their orientation is, at the most fundamental level. I don't believe you can truly change anything but your behavior where sexuality is concerned.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:20 pm
Sexual orientation is never ever a choice. You are born with it. It is a part of you, as race is, and it doesn't determine your personality, nor anything else. It's just what you're attracted to.
Now lots of people think they can choose. Especially gays, who want to be straight. They can say they are straight, they can be in relationships with the opposite sex, but that does not make them heterosexual. Sexual orientation is what you're attracted to, not what you think you should be. Same with girls who say they can't stand the pain of being in a relationship with men, because they always fail at the relationship. So they choose to be in relationships with women, and then proclaim to be bi or lesbian, which is not true. You can say that, but it doesn't make you that.
It's like race, you can say you're white, or you can say you're black, but in the end, you are the race you truly are.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:25 pm
Oh, and it wasn't a definition of love. It was a definition of marriage under the law, marriage becoming legal.
Love is understanding, acceptance, compassion, and mercy. It is not ignorance, nor hatred, nor bigotry, nor cruelness.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:17 pm
1) There is no way to prove that people are born with a sexuality. So either link me or stop tring to make absolute truths out of opinions. Personally, I believe that it has to do with some sort of hormone imbalence which develops at puberty. And that while people are going through puberty, there hormones are so unstable that subconsciously people have some control, but not as much. That if someone wants to be gay they can be but if their hormones are really saying otherwise they end up bi.
2) Thank you mister obvious up there. I doubt she is bi as well. Although there is no way to prove that she isn't because she could just as easily be attracted to girl and just to shy to go out with one.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:45 am
Well, I don't think people can choose. There's a kinsey scale as well, that places your sexual orientation and determines what you're more prone to. Check it out on wikipedia, I don't wanna have to surf on the net.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:46 am
Remove David Schmutte I agree with gay marage but I just recently realized the other sides argument, correct me if im wrong but is marrige not a union between a man and a women? Yes thats right. Homosexuality has been around for years, the Greeks use to practice it often. Men married a women and had sexual relationships with younger men. So it has been around for ages and yet marriage was made between a man and women. SO sure let gays be joined just don't call it marriage. Sorry but unless there is proof which there isn't, there is only speculation I don't believe that there is a 'gay gene' just like I don't believe there is a 'murder gene'. The choice may be an unconscious one there is nothing to say it is a choice you will consciously make but I think its a choice none the less or maybe a different balance of chemicals in the brain. That is my opinion and will be until there is proof otherwise. Here's proof. A guy...he's gay. He doesn't get a boner at the sight of women. He gets a boner at the sight of an oiled, muscled man. Oh, done. It's not a choice anymore.
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