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 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:26 am
Noxness tyranisneasel I'd choose lethal injection. While the person did do a horrendous and terrible crime, hanging is just too horrible for me, and the electric chair can get really disgusting and messy (I've watched the Green Mile). Because we all know Hollywood is an accurate representation of real life events. rolleyes I laugh, I love, I hope, I try, I hurt, I need, I fear, I cry. So you're saying the electric chair is like doing recreational drugs or riding a roller coaster because Hollywood made a movie depicting it as a horrible way to go? confused And I know you do the same things, too. So we're really not that different, me and you.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:38 am
Tellev Noxness tyranisneasel I'd choose lethal injection. While the person did do a horrendous and terrible crime, hanging is just too horrible for me, and the electric chair can get really disgusting and messy (I've watched the Green Mile). Because we all know Hollywood is an accurate representation of real life events. rolleyes I laugh, I love, I hope, I try, I hurt, I need, I fear, I cry. So you're saying the electric chair is like doing recreational drugs or riding a roller coaster because Hollywood made a movie depicting it as a horrible way to go? confused And I know you do the same things, too. So we're really not that different, me and you.When did I say that? I didn't. I am simply pointing out that you can't refer to Hollywood as your only point of reference for the representation of a real life act because it's fabricated and over the top. The ENTIRETY of the Green Mile is a fantasy, and I am sorry if there are are supernatural enormous black men where you come from. Please, forgive me. Hollywood is never accurate, even those who attempt to tell the truth (Michael Moore) present the facts with a bias. My point plain and simple: Use facts, not Hollywood to illustrate your points. Thank you.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:28 pm
Noxness When did I say that? I didn't. I am simply pointing out that you can't refer to Hollywood as your only point of reference for the representation of a real life act because it's fabricated and over the top. The ENTIRETY of the Green Mile is a fantasy, and I am sorry if there are are supernatural enormous black men where you come from. Please, forgive me. Hollywood is never accurate, even those who attempt to tell the truth (Michael Moore) present the facts with a bias. My point plain and simple: Use facts, not Hollywood to illustrate your points. Thank you. I laugh, I love, I hope, I try, I hurt, I need, I fear, I cry. I understand not everything Hollywood makes is completely accurate. I'm just saying it's general knowledge that getting shocked with 2,000 volts of electricity isn't fun, especially when things go wrong (and they do). It DOES get messy, more often than not the electric chair causes severe damage to a person's internal organs. Skin gets burned, people lose bowel control... it's not pretty.
The Green Mile is a movie and a book, sure, but believe it or not, the movie does portray the electric chair fairly accurately. I'm not using a movie for all my facts, I just see The Green Mile as a less gruesome visual example than finding a video of someone actually getting the electric chair, which, trust me, is absolutely disgusting to watch. And I know you do the same things, too. So we're really not that different, me and you.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:29 pm
Actually you'd be surprized what Hollywood does get right. You can learn alot about medicine from medical dramas. You can learn about religions when watching a fanasy show. You can learn how to not get caught by watching CSI. If you know what they look for then you know what not to leave for them to find. Usually shows/movies hire people who work in the field for reference. Look at the show Supernatural - every episode is based off of some rumor of a haunting or something to do with a religion or legend. They research for their shows. Look at the show House. I have learned about several different diseases, including one where you feel no pain at all, by watching the show.
So before you dismiss Hollywood compelely, I'd like to just let you know that, in many aspects Hollywood is a great way to learn without relizing that your learning. Also, if your smart enough, you'd be able to figure out that the fact is bias and find the truth to it. Now, I agree that Hollywood is not the best to back up an opinion, but don't completely dismiss it.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:58 pm
marshjazz Actually you'd be surprized what Hollywood does get right. You can learn alot about medicine from medical dramas. You can learn about religions when watching a fanasy show. You can learn how to not get caught by watching CSI. If you know what they look for then you know what not to leave for them to find. Usually shows/movies hire people who work in the field for reference. Look at the show Supernatural - every episode is based off of some rumor of a haunting or something to do with a religion or legend. They research for their shows. Look at the show House. I have learned about several different diseases, including one where you feel no pain at all, by watching the show. So before you dismiss Hollywood compelely, I'd like to just let you know that, in many aspects Hollywood is a great way to learn without relizing that your learning. Also, if your smart enough, you'd be able to figure out that the fact is bias and find the truth to it. Now, I agree that Hollywood is not the best to back up an opinion, but don't completely dismiss it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:25 pm
i would say hanging...lethat injection you have to pay for to buy the...uhh....lethal stuff
with the chair you have to pay for the electricity...hanging is free!
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:56 pm
Wow buddy you have issues. See lethal injection is the best way only cause your body doesn't feel the pain as bad as hanging or electric chair. Hanging though on the other hand is fast but you still fell the pain and is a horrible site to watch. Electric chair is burning a human like a piece of bacon. There both very haunting on the mind. Lethal injection....though is injecting liquid into the blood system which slowly shuts down every nerve and organ in the body. Its as if the person is actually sleeping instead.
Oh and by the way this point of view is by a very intelligent 15 year old.
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:28 pm
HinataFan1 Wow buddy you have issues. See lethal injection is the best way only cause your body doesn't feel the pain as bad as hanging or electric chair. Hanging though on the other hand is fast but you still fell the pain and is a horrible site to watch. Electric chair is burning a human like a piece of bacon. There both very haunting on the mind. Lethal injection....though is injecting liquid into the blood system which slowly shuts down every nerve and organ in the body. Its as if the person is actually sleeping instead.
Oh and by the way this point of view is by a very intelligent 15 year old. I laugh, I love, I hope, I try, I hurt, I need, I fear, I cry. Modest, eh? And as you can see here, it doesn't always work out right. What an uplifting list; I'm glad all those people got what they deserved! And I know you do the same things, too. So we're really not that different, me and you.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:06 pm
does it matter? its all euthinasia either way.
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:15 pm
Kyoshi Riiyo-chan does it matter? its all euthinasia either way. I laugh, I love, I hope, I try, I hurt, I need, I fear, I cry. Except euthanasia implies it's a painless death, and in most types of executions, it's far from painless.
There's debate as to whether even lethal injection is painless or not, because there's the possibility that the victim feels pain, but is too incapacitated by the drugs to express it in a grunt or a groan.
Plus, euthanasia's usually used in a medical sense, as to ending the suffering of a lung cancer patient. It's used (where it's legal) when there are no other alternatives (aka. no cures to the said disease). The only "illness" most people put in death row have is mental illness, and saying that wouldn't go over well with people (autistic children are "mentally ill", too). And I know you do the same things, too. So we're really not that different, me and you.
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:26 pm
Aakiyana marshjazz Actually you'd be surprized what Hollywood does get right. You can learn alot about medicine from medical dramas. You can learn about religions when watching a fanasy show. You can learn how to not get caught by watching CSI. If you know what they look for then you know what not to leave for them to find. Usually shows/movies hire people who work in the field for reference. Look at the show Supernatural - every episode is based off of some rumor of a haunting or something to do with a religion or legend. They research for their shows. Look at the show House. I have learned about several different diseases, including one where you feel no pain at all, by watching the show. So before you dismiss Hollywood compelely, I'd like to just let you know that, in many aspects Hollywood is a great way to learn without relizing that your learning. Also, if your smart enough, you'd be able to figure out that the fact is bias and find the truth to it. Now, I agree that Hollywood is not the best to back up an opinion, but don't completely dismiss it. I understand that the writers of ER, or other medical dramas don't throw out jargon and medical conditions without research. In fact many shows that revolve around scientific fact have professionals in the appropriate field aiding in the writing. To tie in what Marshjazz is pointing out, yes these shows are entirely informative and educational, but only to a certain degree, which is what I am saying. You just can't equate a lifetime of watching ER to ten years in a PhD program. But This is entirely off-topic now and to reiterate how I really feel about lethal injection please refer to my own OP a few pages back. rolleyes
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:47 pm
Noxness I understand that the writers of ER, or other medical dramas don't throw out jargon and medical conditions without research. In fact many shows that revolve around scientific fact have professionals in the appropriate field aiding in the writing. To tie in what Marshjazz is pointing out, yes these shows are entirely informative and educational, but only to a certain degree, which is what I am saying. You just can't equate a lifetime of watching ER to ten years in a PhD program. But This is entirely off-topic now and to reiterate how I really feel about lethal injection please refer to my own OP a few pages back. rolleyes I laugh, I love, I hope, I try, I hurt, I need, I fear, I cry. Tellev I'm not using a movie for all my facts, I just see The Green Mile as a less gruesome visual example than finding a video of someone actually getting the electric chair, which, trust me, is absolutely disgusting to watch. And I know you do the same things, too. So we're really not that different, me and you.
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:04 am
Tellev Noxness I understand that the writers of ER, or other medical dramas don't throw out jargon and medical conditions without research. In fact many shows that revolve around scientific fact have professionals in the appropriate field aiding in the writing. To tie in what Marshjazz is pointing out, yes these shows are entirely informative and educational, but only to a certain degree, which is what I am saying. You just can't equate a lifetime of watching ER to ten years in a PhD program. But This is entirely off-topic now and to reiterate how I really feel about lethal injection please refer to my own OP a few pages back. rolleyes I laugh, I love, I hope, I try, I hurt, I need, I fear, I cry. Tellev I'm not using a movie for all my facts, I just see The Green Mile as a less gruesome visual example than finding a video of someone actually getting the electric chair, which, trust me, is absolutely disgusting to watch. And I know you do the same things, too. So we're really not that different, me and you.Wasn't even rebutting your debate this time around wink
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:00 am
I say that I personally would want the electric chair because it's quick and painless you don't have to watch what they're doing 'cause they cover your face that makes it the least torturing.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:32 am
I believe that a leathal injection would be the most humane thing to do and of course we all know that us humans are getting more violent and well less humane.
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