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YES!
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oORiver GoddessOo

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:20 pm


Are you saying, that its okay to think lust if is put on you after seeing someone you love? but its not okay to think about sex all the time?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:43 pm


What are you asking? Are you asking is it okay to have lustful thoughts about your spouse? If so, the answer is yes. I think.

aTerraxia


Craigor

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:02 am


I'm simply going to add my views on the subject of porn.

While the Bible may not specifically say that 'porn' is wrong, the Bible clearly indicates that lust - a desire for immoral sexual fulfillment in this case - is. Porn is a product of lust. It exists to arouse sexual fantasies. Period. Since Porn is a product of lust, and lust is sinful, then Porn is also sinful, in whatever form it takes.
Jesus said that to even think about a woman lustfully in your mind is equal to committing adultery as far as sin goes. Now tell me this: which comes first in the mind of a pornography viewer: A - lustful thoughts, or B - looking at/watching porn? We - humans in general - look at porn because generally, the thought came into our head of wanting to be aroused.

Now, as a Christian, it seems very clear to me that God stands in condemnation of porn, for more than one reason. It is lustful. It degrades women and men both. It can become an idol. It causes us to find fulfillment in something against His will. So the choice is clear. If you claim faith in Christ and follow his ways, pornography is not an option. It is sin.

For those who are not Christian, I have an argument for you as well. Pornography is downright degrading. It removes intelligence and reason from our human nature and reduces us to nothing but primitive, sex-fueled animals. It ruins relationships, marriages, friendships. It causes millions to turn to a computer screen, movie, magazine page, whatever, and creates an inappropriate view of the opposite sex. It sucks young men and women into it's web with the allure of cash, and then keeps them there.

Sorry for the long post, but I feel very strongly about this issue. If any of you are on Facebook, please feel free to join my group there, called Guys Against Porn.

God Bless.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:45 pm


Sieg Reyu.2
What are you asking? Are you asking is it okay to have lustful thoughts about your spouse? If so, the answer is yes. I think.

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OF COURSE IT'S OKAY TO HAVE LUSTFUL FEELINGS FOR YOUR SPOUSE.
That's the whole thing about marrige!!
You're allowed to do that kind of stuff!
Because you're MARRIED.
It's just not okay to do/ think those things of /other/ people.
And then if you find yourself thinking those thoughts of others,
Pray for forgiveness.
Kahdurh, yah?

...anberlin


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Arachibutyrophobic

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:46 pm


Craigor
I'm simply going to add my views on the subject of porn.

While the Bible may not specifically say that 'porn' is wrong, the Bible clearly indicates that lust - a desire for immoral sexual fulfillment in this case - is. Porn is a product of lust. It exists to arouse sexual fantasies. Period. Since Porn is a product of lust, and lust is sinful, then Porn is also sinful, in whatever form it takes.
Jesus said that to even think about a woman lustfully in your mind is equal to committing adultery as far as sin goes. Now tell me this: which comes first in the mind of a pornography viewer: A - lustful thoughts, or B - looking at/watching porn? We - humans in general - look at porn because generally, the thought came into our head of wanting to be aroused.

Now, as a Christian, it seems very clear to me that God stands in condemnation of porn, for more than one reason. It is lustful. It degrades women and men both. It can become an idol. It causes us to find fulfillment in something against His will. So the choice is clear. If you claim faith in Christ and follow his ways, pornography is not an option. It is sin.

For those who are not Christian, I have an argument for you as well. Pornography is downright degrading. It removes intelligence and reason from our human nature and reduces us to nothing but primitive, sex-fueled animals. It ruins relationships, marriages, friendships. It causes millions to turn to a computer screen, movie, magazine page, whatever, and creates an inappropriate view of the opposite sex. It sucks young men and women into it's web with the allure of cash, and then keeps them there.

Sorry for the long post, but I feel very strongly about this issue. If any of you are on Facebook, please feel free to join my group there, called Guys Against Porn.

God Bless.

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Mm,
Amen.

...anberlin


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:19 pm


Okay just wondering i have alot of questions

oORiver GoddessOo


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:27 am


Pokegirl Princess Lolicat

With most laws based on Christian morals (in the West), I hardly think it's an improper source.

This is the same law that let OJ off, right? I mean, since when has the law been all that good?

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Anyway, some might argue that a book that is in some sections many thousands of years old is hardly the best source for moral teachings.

I'd agree. G-d is the ultimate source for moral teachings. that thousand year old book just happened to be His divine revelation.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:32 am


~xXBlazing DesireXx~
Are you saying, that its okay to think lust if is put on you after seeing someone you love? but its not okay to think about sex all the time?

Yes I would say so, because the bonds of marriage should consist of love, respect and a partnership - both with your spouse and Christ. When you have a really good, healthy marriage I should think that sex would be more about love than lust (though it may still be there cool ).

hobosly


mysurrenderstory

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:05 am


it is not okay to LUST for anything or anyone. Lust is a want but cant have kinda situation. Porn is wrong because it causes a sin against our bodies and our body is the temple of God. point 2 being that porn is worldly and we are called to be set apart from things like that that cause us to stumble.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:32 am


dwarfshorty
I wonder if porn is wrong in the eyes of god if you are watching it to have it act as a Aphrodesiac for you and your spouse?


Yes. I truely believe ANYTHING that causes you sexual arousal OTHER THAN your spouse, is creating lust in your heart for that object, book, tape, magizine, etc. To be completely clear, sexual arousal is not a sin. Feeling "horny" becuase you ACCIDENTLY saw cleavage (which for some reason is becoming a large argument) is not wrong. Allowing your mind to dwell on these images for long periods of time, or going back to these images later on in order to arouse yourself, even if you are trying to have sex with your spouse, is acting out your lust for said image ONTO your spouse. I think that is even worse than masturbating to an image. If you watch a porn video in order to become aroused, then sleep with your spouse, you just USED your spouse in order to "get off" from the images from that tape. And there is no way you can twist this argumwent to make is 'seem' okay. This is the unsugar-coated fact for a healthy sex life with your spouse. Items, images, vibrators, sex toys, videos, the hot woman on the street, should not be allowed to plauge your mind or be used to create sexual pleasure or arousal. Sex should be about love. Not about how good it can make you feel. And if you are truely having a sex life according to the will of God, then I believe that your sex life will become better than it could ever be. (sorry for the length...)

Libelle736


Libelle736

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:35 am


Craigor
I'm simply going to add my views on the subject of porn.

While the Bible may not specifically say that 'porn' is wrong, the Bible clearly indicates that lust - a desire for immoral sexual fulfillment in this case - is. Porn is a product of lust. It exists to arouse sexual fantasies. Period. Since Porn is a product of lust, and lust is sinful, then Porn is also sinful, in whatever form it takes.
Jesus said that to even think about a woman lustfully in your mind is equal to committing adultery as far as sin goes. Now tell me this: which comes first in the mind of a pornography viewer: A - lustful thoughts, or B - looking at/watching porn? We - humans in general - look at porn because generally, the thought came into our head of wanting to be aroused.

Now, as a Christian, it seems very clear to me that God stands in condemnation of porn, for more than one reason. It is lustful. It degrades women and men both. It can become an idol. It causes us to find fulfillment in something against His will. So the choice is clear. If you claim faith in Christ and follow his ways, pornography is not an option. It is sin.

For those who are not Christian, I have an argument for you as well. Pornography is downright degrading. It removes intelligence and reason from our human nature and reduces us to nothing but primitive, sex-fueled animals. It ruins relationships, marriages, friendships. It causes millions to turn to a computer screen, movie, magazine page, whatever, and creates an inappropriate view of the opposite sex. It sucks young men and women into it's web with the allure of cash, and then keeps them there.

Sorry for the long post, but I feel very strongly about this issue. If any of you are on Facebook, please feel free to join my group there, called Guys Against Porn.

God Bless.


*claps*
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:40 pm


Nariko736
dwarfshorty
I wonder if porn is wrong in the eyes of god if you are watching it to have it act as a Aphrodesiac for you and your spouse?


Yes. I truely believe ANYTHING that causes you sexual arousal OTHER THAN your spouse, is creating lust in your heart for that object, book, tape, magizine, etc. To be completely clear, sexual arousal is not a sin. Feeling "horny" becuase you ACCIDENTLY saw cleavage (which for some reason is becoming a large argument) is not wrong. Allowing your mind to dwell on these images for long periods of time, or going back to these images later on in order to arouse yourself, even if you are trying to have sex with your spouse, is acting out your lust for said image ONTO your spouse. I think that is even worse than masturbating to an image. If you watch a porn video in order to become aroused, then sleep with your spouse, you just USED your spouse in order to "get off" from the images from that tape. And there is no way you can twist this argumwent to make is 'seem' okay. This is the unsugar-coated fact for a healthy sex life with your spouse. Items, images, vibrators, sex toys, videos, the hot woman on the street, should not be allowed to plauge your mind or be used to create sexual pleasure or arousal. Sex should be about love. Not about how good it can make you feel. And if you are truely having a sex life according to the will of God, then I believe that your sex life will become better than it could ever be. (sorry for the length...)


I think that says it all 3nodding

hobosly


hobosly

PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:49 pm


Page from The One Year Mini for Students: February 19th entry

Lust

What is wrong with just thinking about having sex with seomeone?

God's Response
I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust has already comitted adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:28

It is what comes from inside that defiles you. From within, out of a person's heart, sexual immorality...lustful desires. Mark 7:20-22

-What you think about doesn't just come from your mind; it comes from your heart. Your thoughts tell you the condition of your heart because your every action begins as a thought. Left unchecked, wrong thoughts will eventually result in wrong actions. If you continue to think about having sex with someone, your heart will begin to convince your mind that what you want to do is okay. The Bible says that the heart is "desperately wicked" (Jeremiah 17:9). In other words, don't trust your emotions to tell you what is right and good. Trust God's Word, for it comes from God's heart, which is good and perfect

This Is Promising
Guard your heart above all else, for it determines the course of your life. Proverbs 4:23

*NOTE: Word for word from the book, not me*
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:37 pm


Dude porn is porn wether its actual sexual intercourse or just other erotic acts. All in all its lame porn sucks.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:51 pm


Zher
I was wondering, isnt "porn" the act of two or more people having sex for the arousing of viewers? And porn is prohibited according to the bible. But wouldn't it not be porn if they were doing other sexually explicit things, but not technically sex, making it not wrong according to the bible? I was just wondering, thanks.
Well man the bible says that your body is temple of the Holy Ghost so that means we must always try to keep it clean.
Porn, sex and all those sins all start with lust.
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