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I've read the thread and I'm not really replying to anyone. I'm just putting in my two cents.

Maybe I'm not understand the thread and maybe my point doesn't really have point. However I thought I made it clear.

So I guess I can go prostitute my daughter now, I mean that was a religious law of the old testimony.

oh! I guess I can also go have sex with my sister, incest never mentioned in the new testiment either.




Geewilikars batman! The laws not nullified!!!


Jesus said that. He fulfilled the law. Fulfilled, do away with, the difference? Well, it simple, COMPLETE and FULFILL.

He is the finish product of the Law, the law still stands, we simple aren't held captive by it.

It a simple concept, the law is given to man so man can know what God see as sin (things outside his will) now, if witchcraft and yes, I'm going to go there just because of your sig, and homosexuality, where wrong in the old testiment. That still makes them wrong in the new testiment. Now before you go quoting Shell fish and what not at me, you have to read the context of the scripture and ask God yourself. I had a funny conversation with God.
I asked him why he didn't like humans eating Oysters, and what not. This was my response.
"You know sewerage filters?"
"Go eat one of those"
There basically the same thing. razz

I've give you a chance to scream bloody murder before I add anymore.


I just told you my friend, and my understanding of Christian Warlocks. It not a wide practice or a completely own belief, as I said it pagan morphed CHristian or vise versa. There no holy text, We have the opposite too, Fundimentalist Pagans, those who apply all Christian values of self-sacrifice, are against homosexuality, etc. and are pagans.

Now seeming I'll be completely honest, yes. I would say you are unchristian. But I would conclude that from your Sig.

If someone had that up about my bestfriend who died for me, I would be annoyed, and seeming it is about my bestfriend who died for me I am. =/ Why don't you just go spit in his eye?

Do you worship Zues? Or do you just theories that Zues is a misguided for of God. (Beside that Zues is nothing like God there Characters are very different, seeming Zues was a sexual predator who liked to watch his own kid prance around in womans clothing.)


Christian warlocks. Your right, I'm sorry it not Idolatry, it's rebellion which is kind of worse and the same.
Rebellion: Going against God's will.
Rebellion = Against God's will = Sin = Death
Therefore if witchcraft = Rebellion = Death

He equates them to the same thing. Now I'm not even going to bother going into the amount of Time God got POed because people sort spells, and mediums, and other Gods, and even people before him that made him get all wrathful. But there a lot. Open your eyes it obvious.


So if I was to say exactly what Elijah said a pack of bears would come from now-where and maul people for me?
Whats that it wouldn't?
Why is that? Becuase the WORDS USED aren't important but the GOD that HEARS them and acts out of RELATIONSHIP
There a reason there no right and wrong way to pray that becuase God listen to the heart not the words.

And spells require a certain phrase or string of words. And we are even told that achieves nothing.


See that? Don't babble, your prayers aren't answered by your words but by your God knowing what you want before you ask. Words matter not.




No the dictionary accounts for that too.

I was in the occult. I've practiced Wiccan beliefs, I've done some neopagan rituals, and I've played with white witch and black witch magic. Spell means exactly what the dictionary means, if he has a different meaning to the word then he shouldn't be saying praying is a spell. Becuase spell means what it means to the great majority of Pagans, witches, wiccans, and occultists, a string of words with power (let it be noted words are less important in occultism)

Praying = TALKING TO GOD
Spell = MAGICAL PHRASE

They are obviously different, spell imply taking, and God doesn't roll like that, you get after having a relationship, you need to have friendship for you to constantly recieve from him. From what I'm hearing it almost like God being placed into the box of a vending machine.



Acts? You serious. Check the greek first.

ἀλλὰ λήμψεσθε δύναμιν ἐπελθόντος

λήμψεσθε without going into extreme detail, this word me to TAKE, grab hold of in order to use. Not once does it say

δύναμιν Of power ability yatter, yatter.

Here the good one.

δύναμιν to come upon, overtake, of the Holy Spirit, descending and operating in one

Once more. I could use the english as well, so I will.
the Holy Spirit has come upon you Not your power his. No holy spirit no power. You are simple a conductor, he is the battry.


10To another the working of miracles, -- KJV
To another the working of miracles, -- AMP

these are the work of one and the same Spirit. Once more, not our power but the Holy Spirits.
We = Conductor
He = Battery we have no power without him.
We = No power
He = All power
We = Conductor of said power.

Oh. My. Sweet. Lord.

Fluffy-ism abounds.

Let's start with the beginning, namely, the title. A 'warlock' is not the actual term for a male witch. 'Warlock' is a scottish word meaning an oathbreaker. It's a perjorative term.

Secondly, Christian Paganism is contradictory and impossible. A Pagan, in the broadest sense of the word, is an individual that is not an abrahmaic monotheist.

Now, as to the actual subject: Why would I say it, when someone else has said it so much better.
(a short quotation, note that the author is a wiccan, which, while not speaking for all pagans, certainly sums up a great deal of Christianity's problems with paganism)
PROTIP: replace every instance of 'wiccan' with 'pagan' and, without really changing the meaning, you've got the gist of the arguement.

Probable. But I wouldn't call 'Christ like oath breakers' a sect of Christianity.

Beside that we can't get in trouble as it not a reconised Christian Sect therefore it a cult, and cults are open season!!! Jokes. Jokes.

But when my bible tells me what this guy does is a no-no, I'll inform everyone of it. =/ And when someone wants to argue it, I'll win. Most of the time. cool

Cloquial Cult meaning =/

6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.

Wait, didn't he tell us just a page ago that he would only accept the dictionary definition of spell?

Oh, the stench; it burns, it burns!

Well, technically not really colloquial, more, the meaning given to Cult by Christianity. I'm use to cult meaning rouge christian sect than it literal meaning, once more, I was addressing the issue as I thought everyone would understand it.

A bit like how you pulled me up on Monkey in previous threads.