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 Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:58 pm
Valko Valentine [.Hermes.] Valko Valentine Agent Manketsu [.Hermes.] The Lady of Moof You all have wonderful ideas. 3nodding The way I picture LN and DN is sort of like you guys. I see them as energies that are constantly emitted by living things, through their actions and reactions on an emotional level (I imagine, also including the Gaia gods themselves, as they too have emotion) such that both LN and DN are always present, at equal levels, giving an overally temporal sense of emotional neutrality. But, I don't see them as cancelling each other out, so much as a... passive countering? If they canceled each other out, I could the everyone lacking a general opinon on all things. We see in Gaia, that there is posstive feedback, and negative feedback, and often they are equal in proportion to each other, which, I feel is representing a general state of LN =DN. And then, on moments, these levels can shift (such as the 420chan hack, I remember that now @.@ wink , massively increasing DN over powering the levels of LN that are naturally produced. Without LN to counter it, the excess DN causes major instablilties in the emotions of Gaians, until either, more LN is produced, or the DN loses it's potency, and slowly ebbs away into nothingness. Unless, as you mentioned, if it is harness before any countering were to take place. The overall effect of this may apppear to be a LN countering reaction, when in fact, the DN has been stolenly away... but not destroyed, There's only one thing I disagre with.
I think that the NRGies are caused by our emotions and opinions, but have no major effect on them other than maybe giving us a bad mood.
So what does that say about DN?I think the huge flow of DN coming from Gambino and Flarn blocked and started building up within them, causing it to manifest itself and take over their emotions.
Perhaps DN loses potency once released as it mixes with other energies like light and heat or something.
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That didn't come out as a strong point like I wanted it to. Oooh, sorry.
Sometimes I pay attention to small things and miss the important stuff.
xD
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:30 pm
[.Hermes.] Oooh, sorry.
Sometimes I pay attention to small things and miss the important stuff.
xD
Hell, I barely knew what I was talking about. I was just kinda' thinking aloud. You said it better than me anyway.
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:23 pm
Valko Valentine [.Hermes.] Oooh, sorry.
Sometimes I pay attention to small things and miss the important stuff.
xD
Hell, I barely knew what I was talking about. I was just kinda' thinking aloud. You said it better than me anyway.If someone makes a spin off thread they can use my definition.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:18 am
Interesting... Yes, DN could lose its potency. I mean, it does in the presence of LN, for sure. So there could be many other things that can also have this effect.... But I also wonder about the opposite? DN being, well DN I can see being self-irratiing, such that DN encourages the production of more DN, and inturn, more DN. But, this would probably be a very unsteady reaction since emotions themselves, caused by DN are not the most stable to begin with anyway. But if there was some sort of, the word escapes me... um, let's go with reactant, that encourages the production of DN in a more steady and continous form, this could lead to massive amounts of DN to be produced, and enchancing the strength of that DN, to be greater than normal, the regular amounts of LN produced by everyone would have no chance at countering this new form of DN.
Unless, LN in turn could be focused the same way.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:03 am
The Lady of Moof Interesting... Yes, DN could lose its potency. I mean, it does in the presence of LN, for sure. So there could be many other things that can also have this effect.... But I also wonder about the opposite? DN being, well DN I can see being self-irratiing, such that DN encourages the production of more DN, and inturn, more DN. But, this would probably be a very unsteady reaction since emotions themselves, caused by DN are not the most stable to begin with anyway. But if there was some sort of, the word escapes me... um, let's go with reactant, that encourages the production of DN in a more steady and continous form, this could lead to massive amounts of DN to be produced, and enchancing the strength of that DN, to be greater than normal, the regular amounts of LN produced by everyone would have no chance at countering this new form of DN. Unless, LN in turn could be focused the same way. If there was a way to concentrate DN some sort of opposite could easily be applied to LN, but nobody wanting to make DN would do the same for LN.
That wouldn't make sense.
The real question is what would the DN be used for?
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:37 am
We'll, if we assume that DN was used in the G Virus, we've seen it used to bring back the dead. Same with Flarn.
Or, and this is another possibility, DN was just a byproduct of those reincarnations.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:04 am
Valko Valentine We'll, if we assume that DN was used in the G Virus, we've seen it used to bring back the dead. Same with Flarn.
Or, and this is another possibility, DN was just a byproduct of those reincarnations. That makes alot of sense. Whenever someone is resurectted in movies and whatnot there is always some sort of waste left over. Usually something very sinister.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:24 am
Tales From The Crypt Valko Valentine We'll, if we assume that DN was used in the G Virus, we've seen it used to bring back the dead. Same with Flarn.
Or, and this is another possibility, DN was just a byproduct of those reincarnations. That makes alot of sense. Whenever someone is resurectted in movies and whatnot there is always some sort of waste left over. Usually something very sinister. Could this apply under zombification as well? When we were all zombified in '04, we were all effectively dead, and we had to drink the vials in order to revive ourselves back to life. It's still sort of a resurrection. If this is the case, that occur might have marked the first major influx of DN in Gaia, with the mass zombifiications AND resurrections. This.. sort of puts those vials into a new light again. Previous, we believed it was liquid LN. If it still is, creating LN, gives birth to more DN suggesting they are tightly locked in a balance, such that the levels of DN and LN are equal at all times... but maybe one can be inactive compared to the other? Or, if this completely disproves that the vials are made of LN, could they infact be ANOTHER strain of the G-virus we have yet to explore?
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:28 am
The Lady of Moof Tales From The Crypt Valko Valentine We'll, if we assume that DN was used in the G Virus, we've seen it used to bring back the dead. Same with Flarn.
Or, and this is another possibility, DN was just a byproduct of those reincarnations. That makes alot of sense. Whenever someone is resurectted in movies and whatnot there is always some sort of waste left over. Usually something very sinister. Could this apply under zombification as well? When we were all zombified in '04, we were all effectively dead, and we had to drink the vials in order to revive ourselves back to life. It's still sort of a resurrection. If this is the case, that occur might have marked the first major influx of DN in Gaia, with the mass zombifiications AND resurrections. This.. sort of puts those vials into a new light again. Previous, we believed it was liquid LN. If it still is, creating LN, gives birth to more DN suggesting they are tightly locked in a balance, such that the levels of DN and LN are equal at all times... but maybe one can be inactive compared to the other? Or, if this completely disproves that the vials are made of LN, could they infact be ANOTHER strain of the G-virus we have yet to explore? Seeing as he sold millions of vials I could see it. I believe the Vials contained an anti-body. And realizing this we stumble upon the fact that LN and DN may be viruses in themselves.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:28 am
I don't believe that the DN and LN must be in a balance (that is what you're saying, right?) but that they are usually in a balance simply because of the nature of emotions.
But how exactly does one obtain pure LN or DN, if they're products of our emotions?
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:31 am
Valko Valentine I don't believe that the DN and LN must be in a balance (that is what you're saying, right?) but that they are usually in a balance simply because of the nature of emotions.
But how exactly does one obtain pure LN or DN, if they're products of our emotions? I believe the simple raw execution of these emotions may create the two energys.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 10:44 am
@Crypt - ... That is very intriguing. We've never really consider that have we? It would certainly put a very big twist on the matter. But... it isn't completely random if you consider Flarn. I mean, if he was resurrected and mutated by DN, that could easily mean, he was mixed with tecnology AND the virus called DN.
DN and LN could even represent THE original viruses of, well maybe not Gaia, but of the situtation we're dealing with. The G-virus could be just desendents of the original DN, designed to act like it, but maybe the scope of the original DN was beyond the capacity for humans or zurg to use, such that they produced the G variants instead.
@Valko - Yeah, I don't actually think they'd always be in balance at all times. It was just an idea that need to get a bit of air beyond my own head. It doesn't sound dynamic enough for two major forms of energy.
As for isolating it, hm. There must be some sort of catch for it. Maybe something that attracts produced Gaia-NRGYs like a 'magnet'? It would need to attract, and concentration if to make it in a usable form that we are thinking it can be used for. The question also is what the nature of that magnet would be. Technological, was my first thought, but now I'm wondering if it would be biological, since something living would have a stronger affinity for something else living?
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 11:39 am
The Lady of Moof @Crypt - ... That is very intriguing. We've never really consider that have we? It would certainly put a very big twist on the matter. But... it isn't completely random if you consider Flarn. I mean, if he was resurrected and mutated by DN, that could easily mean, he was mixed with tecnology AND the virus called DN. DN and LN could even represent THE original viruses of, well maybe not Gaia, but of the situtation we're dealing with. The G-virus could be just desendents of the original DN, designed to act like it, but maybe the scope of the original DN was beyond the capacity for humans or zurg to use, such that they produced the G variants instead. @Valko - Yeah, I don't actually think they'd always be in balance at all times. It was just an idea that need to get a bit of air beyond my own head. It doesn't sound dynamic enough for two major forms of energy. As for isolating it, hm. There must be some sort of catch for it. Maybe something that attracts produced Gaia-NRGYs like a 'magnet'? It would need to attract, and concentration if to make it in a usable form that we are thinking it can be used for. The question also is what the nature of that magnet would be. Technological, was my first thought, but now I'm wondering if it would be biological, since something living would have a stronger affinity for something else living? Very true. The G-virus may be an evolved strain of DN. But wouldn't that also mean LN has an advanced strain also?
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:43 pm
Tales From The Crypt The Lady of Moof @Crypt - ... That is very intriguing. We've never really consider that have we? It would certainly put a very big twist on the matter. But... it isn't completely random if you consider Flarn. I mean, if he was resurrected and mutated by DN, that could easily mean, he was mixed with tecnology AND the virus called DN. DN and LN could even represent THE original viruses of, well maybe not Gaia, but of the situtation we're dealing with. The G-virus could be just desendents of the original DN, designed to act like it, but maybe the scope of the original DN was beyond the capacity for humans or zurg to use, such that they produced the G variants instead. @Valko - Yeah, I don't actually think they'd always be in balance at all times. It was just an idea that need to get a bit of air beyond my own head. It doesn't sound dynamic enough for two major forms of energy. As for isolating it, hm. There must be some sort of catch for it. Maybe something that attracts produced Gaia-NRGYs like a 'magnet'? It would need to attract, and concentration if to make it in a usable form that we are thinking it can be used for. The question also is what the nature of that magnet would be. Technological, was my first thought, but now I'm wondering if it would be biological, since something living would have a stronger affinity for something else living? Very true. The G-virus may be an evolved strain of DN. But wouldn't that also mean LN has an advanced strain also? ^.^ Yuuuup. And if it hasn't been made yet... Now is always a good time for it to be produced. Now wouldn't THAT make a nice little twist?
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:48 pm
The Lady of Moof Tales From The Crypt The Lady of Moof @Crypt - ... That is very intriguing. We've never really consider that have we? It would certainly put a very big twist on the matter. But... it isn't completely random if you consider Flarn. I mean, if he was resurrected and mutated by DN, that could easily mean, he was mixed with tecnology AND the virus called DN. DN and LN could even represent THE original viruses of, well maybe not Gaia, but of the situtation we're dealing with. The G-virus could be just desendents of the original DN, designed to act like it, but maybe the scope of the original DN was beyond the capacity for humans or zurg to use, such that they produced the G variants instead. @Valko - Yeah, I don't actually think they'd always be in balance at all times. It was just an idea that need to get a bit of air beyond my own head. It doesn't sound dynamic enough for two major forms of energy. As for isolating it, hm. There must be some sort of catch for it. Maybe something that attracts produced Gaia-NRGYs like a 'magnet'? It would need to attract, and concentration if to make it in a usable form that we are thinking it can be used for. The question also is what the nature of that magnet would be. Technological, was my first thought, but now I'm wondering if it would be biological, since something living would have a stronger affinity for something else living? Very true. The G-virus may be an evolved strain of DN. But wouldn't that also mean LN has an advanced strain also? ^.^ Yuuuup. And if it hasn't been made yet... Now is always a good time for it to be produced. Now wouldn't THAT make a nice little twist? If drkenrgy created zombies, then what would Light make? I mean once it's evolved from it's original strain?
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