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Aneko-Sama

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:18 pm


Marusera
Sasshomaru and Kagome - never!
I think that Sesshomaru should be with Rin. biggrin


Why, though?

I mean, this guy is technically the girl's father - as he is raising her.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:02 am


If we go by Demon and not human terms, and knowing that sex doesn't determine child-bearing for demons..... There are two choices:
And yes, I am a yaoi fan, so this makes sense!
1. InuYasha- and yes- it's his 1/2 brother- but we are talking demons, not humans here... And he is the closest to Sesshomaru- We all know that Sesshy says he will one day kill InuYasha, but let InuYasha bear him an heir first.

2. Naraku- he is a very powerful hanyou, but he is powerful and closest to Sesshomaru in temperament and abilities. And Naraku is used to creating/having children- so he would be good for breeding an heir for Sesshomaru!--

and if either hanyou bears Sesshy's child- it will be more than a half-breed, so it might not be hated as much.

DemonLadySesshomaru
Captain

Aged Hunter


I59I59

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:19 am


ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT!!!
you people got me interested.
i believe in SessXKags for several GOOD reasons.
im going to say them.
then explain them.
Kagome and Sesshomaru are the SAME in very DIFFERENT ways.

Sesshomaru:: Takes in a human orphan [[to whom which he cares alot for]]
Kagome:: Takes in a demon orphan [[who she loves and treats as if hes her own child or younger brother]]
Sesshomaru:: Tries to act cold and uncaring so that ppl will fear him
Kagome:: tries to act happy and carefree so that ppl will like her
Sesshomaru:: Isnt as mean as he acts
Kagome:: [[seriously no one is that sickly sweet. we all know that she harbors some darker feelings]]

on top of all this they would balance each other out.
Kagome:: Would teach Sesshomaru to open up and not be so mean and hateful all the time
Sesshomaru:: would teach Kagome to get her damn head out of the clouds. And teach her proper defences so that she wasnt such a weakling.

[[p.s. their my avatars parents soo be nice]]
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:21 pm


Hehe fanfiction.... Yep. Sesshoumaru and Kagome biggrin Their personalities just mesh so well 3nodding

Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh


Aneko-Sama

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:37 am


DemonLadySesshomaru
If we go by Demon and not human terms, and knowing that sex doesn't determine child-bearing for demons..... There are two choices:
And yes, I am a yaoi fan, so this makes sense!
1. InuYasha- and yes- it's his 1/2 brother- but we are talking demons, not humans here... And he is the closest to Sesshomaru- We all know that Sesshy says he will one day kill InuYasha, but let InuYasha bear him an heir first.

2. Naraku- he is a very powerful hanyou, but he is powerful and closest to Sesshomaru in temperament and abilities. And Naraku is used to creating/having children- so he would be good for breeding an heir for Sesshomaru!--

and if either hanyou bears Sesshy's child- it will be more than a half-breed, so it might not be hated as much.


One problem with that, though - both Inuyasha and Naraku are males, and (demon or human) males are incapable of baring children (even Naraku's ability to 'birth' offspring is nothing more than him casting off parts of himself to serve as his underlings (and their lives are strongly based on how useful they are to him - as soon as they serve their purpose, they die).
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:43 am


Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh
Hehe fanfiction.... Yep. Sesshoumaru and Kagome biggrin Their personalities just mesh so well 3nodding


How do you figure?

I find their respective personalities would get on each others nerves.

Aneko-Sama


Aneko-Sama

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:58 am


Jumps the Rope
ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT!!!
you people got me interested.
i believe in SessXKags for several GOOD reasons.
im going to say them.
then explain them.
Kagome and Sesshomaru are the SAME in very DIFFERENT ways.

Sesshomaru:: Takes in a human orphan [[to whom which he cares alot for]]
Kagome:: Takes in a demon orphan [[who she loves and treats as if hes her own child or younger brother]]
Sesshomaru:: Tries to act cold and uncaring so that ppl will fear him
Kagome:: tries to act happy and carefree so that ppl will like her
Sesshomaru:: Isnt as mean as he acts
Kagome:: [[seriously no one is that sickly sweet. we all know that she harbors some darker feelings]]

on top of all this they would balance each other out.
Kagome:: Would teach Sesshomaru to open up and not be so mean and hateful all the time
Sesshomaru:: would teach Kagome to get her damn head out of the clouds. And teach her proper defences so that she wasnt such a weakling.

[[p.s. their my avatars parents soo be nice]]


I have to debunk your theories here - sorry.

- Kagome does not treat Inuyasha as a brother/child of her own. She has stated more than a few times that she loves Inuyasha (like a boyfriend) and he is attracted to her in return.

- Neither character put of a front. Their personalities are genuine to their nature (Sesshoumaru is cool, serious and stoic, Kagome is easy going, bubbly and helpful). There is no pretending in either case.

- Sesshoumaru has already learned to be more compassionate/forgiving through a combination of Rin/Kagura and Kohaku. He does not need Kagome to teach him what he already knows.

- Despite the fact she is not a physical fighter, Kagome is far stronger than most of her own group (given that Naraku's attacks are largely based on mental/emotional manipulations, Kagome is the only one who he has been unable to manipulate to his will). That, and with her miko powers, she is the one that Naraku fears the most (recent manga chapters - as an example - show that Kagome placed a serious hurt on him a total of three times in the story - and two of those case are with powers that she had not fully tapped into).

So, yeah - Kagome does not need Sesshoumaru assistance in utilizing her powers approprietly.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:11 pm


Aneko-Sama
Jumps the Rope
ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT!!!
you people got me interested.
i believe in SessXKags for several GOOD reasons.
im going to say them.
then explain them.
Kagome and Sesshomaru are the SAME in very DIFFERENT ways.

Sesshomaru:: Takes in a human orphan [[to whom which he cares alot for]]
Kagome:: Takes in a demon orphan [[who she loves and treats as if hes her own child or younger brother]]
Sesshomaru:: Tries to act cold and uncaring so that ppl will fear him
Kagome:: tries to act happy and carefree so that ppl will like her
Sesshomaru:: Isnt as mean as he acts
Kagome:: [[seriously no one is that sickly sweet. we all know that she harbors some darker feelings]]

on top of all this they would balance each other out.
Kagome:: Would teach Sesshomaru to open up and not be so mean and hateful all the time
Sesshomaru:: would teach Kagome to get her damn head out of the clouds. And teach her proper defences so that she wasnt such a weakling.

[[p.s. their my avatars parents soo be nice]]


I have to debunk your theories here - sorry.

- Kagome does not treat Inuyasha as a brother/child of her own. She has stated more than a few times that she loves Inuyasha (like a boyfriend) and he is attracted to her in return.

- Neither character put of a front. Their personalities are genuine to their nature (Sesshoumaru is cool, serious and stoic, Kagome is easy going, bubbly and helpful). There is no pretending in either case.

- Sesshoumaru has already learned to be more compassionate/forgiving through a combination of Rin/Kagura and Kohaku. He does not need Kagome to teach him what he already knows.

- Despite the fact she is not a physical fighter, Kagome is far stronger than most of her own group (given that Naraku's attacks are largely based on mental/emotional manipulations, Kagome is the only one who he has been unable to manipulate to his will). That, and with her miko powers, she is the one that Naraku fears the most (recent manga chapters - as an example - show that Kagome placed a serious hurt on him a total of three times in the story - and two of those case are with powers that she had not fully tapped into).

So, yeah - Kagome does not need Sesshoumaru assistance in utilizing her powers approprietly.


WHOA WHOA WHOA!!
who said ne thing about inuyasha?
i was talking about shippo!!
lol
i know that kagome is powerful
but she does not know how to TRULY
protect herself.
and sesshomaru just needs to show it a little better.

I59I59


Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:48 pm


Aneko-Sama
Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh
Hehe fanfiction.... Yep. Sesshoumaru and Kagome biggrin Their personalities just mesh so well 3nodding


How do you figure?

I find their respective personalities would get on each others nerves.
Just that Sesshoumaru's quite a cold and silent character while Kagome's is the complete opposite. He'd most likely try to kill her, but her obstinacy would keep bringing her back xD

And that makes for some kinky sex ninja

I take it you're not a KagomexSesshoumaru shipper? Might I ask if you support any pairings with him?

Nevermind. I read that You're a Kagura supporter xD

There's nothing wrong with her. She's quite a complex character. However, I don't believe that her personality would very much go with Sesshoumaru's. For Kagura's character, I see her as the damsel in distress. She needs some kinda masochist to tell her that she doesn't need to be strong all the time. An outgoing guy, you know? Like Koga for instance. That makes for one quirky couple xD But oddly enough, it works in my mind.

I feel like Sesshoumaru would not make an effort to put himself out in any sort of awkward/uncomfortable situations involving a potential significant other. Thus, this is where Kagome comes in. Her outgoing nature makes her a shoe in! She'll be her bubbly quirky self which at first annoys Sesshoumaru. Then he finds that he can't kill her (divine intervention or whatnot) and then finds her behavior to be quirky or something. Then before he knows it, she under his belt and in his bed domokun

Yar. Anywho... that's what I see. Need any more clarifications?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:54 pm


Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh
Aneko-Sama
Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh
Hehe fanfiction.... Yep. Sesshoumaru and Kagome biggrin Their personalities just mesh so well 3nodding


How do you figure?

I find their respective personalities would get on each others nerves.
Just that Sesshoumaru's quite a cold and silent character while Kagome's is the complete opposite. He'd most likely try to kill her, but her obstinacy would keep bringing her back xD

And that makes for some kinky sex ninja

I take it you're not a KagomexSesshoumaru shipper? Might I ask if you support any pairings with him?

Nevermind. I read that You're a Kagura supporter xD

There's nothing wrong with her. She's quite a complex character. However, I don't believe that her personality would very much go with Sesshoumaru's. For Kagura's character, I see her as the damsel in distress. She needs some kinda masochist to tell her that she doesn't need to be strong all the time. An outgoing guy, you know? Like Koga for instance. That makes for one quirky couple xD But oddly enough, it works in my mind.

I feel like Sesshoumaru would not make an effort to put himself out in any sort of awkward/uncomfortable situations involving a potential significant other. Thus, this is where Kagome comes in. Her outgoing nature makes her a shoe in! She'll be her bubbly quirky self which at first annoys Sesshoumaru. Then he finds that he can't kill her (divine intervention or whatnot) and then finds her behavior to be quirky or something. Then before he knows it, she under his belt and in his bed domokun

Yar. Anywho... that's what I see. Need any more clarifications?


Er...sorry, I still can't see it happening.

For me, I'm a canon purist. If there is no evidence to show that there is even a remote attraction between two characters within the canon universe, I don't tend to support them outside of it.

I had (and still do) support Sesshoumaru and Kagura - however, that was not meant to be, as Kagura had been killed by Naraku. true, she was a damsel in distress 9as she needed someone to defeat naraku so she could be free). But unlike Kagome, Kagura could stand her own in battle without the need of being rescued when things got sticky (I think there was only one point that she had been spared from death - and that was through Naraku's intervention. Any other time, she was either struck down, near killed or fled the scene entirely).

So, a damsel, but not a damsel. Ans in the canon universe, there were some indications that Sesshoumaru had been in the process of developing some deep feelings for her (as there are several points where he had shown worry when it came to her, and grief/anger for her after she had passed away).

As for any other pairing? No. At this point, I would rather see Sesshoumaru hook up with some random youkai female than any of the pre-existing females left (Kagome is Inuyasha's, Sango is Miroku's and Rin is Kohaku's).

Aneko-Sama


Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:24 pm


I understand what you mean by the purist thing. But have you ever considered that Kagome may appear to be the weaker character because the other characters gave her no chance to prove her worth? It's not her fault Inuyasha's all like "I'll protect you" so she doesn't have to defend herself. Besides that, take into account her other qualities which basically keep the band together.

Think deeper than what the eye can see. So what if Sesshoumaru and Kagome barely had any interactions? The point of the matter is that if you were to stick the two of them in a room and strip em of their powers to keep em from killing each other, they would get along, eventually.

I agree with the random yokai thing as well. I can more see him bang a b***h and leave her rather than stay tied down to any one thing. Scuse the language.

Also, I would like to point out that because of Kikyo, I don't believe Inuyasha and Kagome could ever exist happily. Because Kagome is the reincarnation of Inuyasha's past love, and she looks remarkably like her as well, Kagome will always have to doubt if Inuyasha would love her for herself, or because she was Kikyo's reincarnation.

Have you ever tried out a KagomexSesshoumaru fiction?

EDIT TO ADD::

So Sesshoumaru might have developed some camaraderie feelings for Kagura. Yes, they are two lone demons who don't socialize very well. One's a smart mouthed b***h and the other's a smart mouthed dog who only speaks when to insult his brother. I just don't see Sesshoumaru giving his all to Kagura, because she just plain doesn't deserve it. Perhaps they shared something in both being lonely, but I feel like that's all.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:54 am


Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh
I understand what you mean by the purist thing. But have you ever considered that Kagome may appear to be the weaker character because the other characters gave her no chance to prove her worth? It's not her fault Inuyasha's all like "I'll protect you" so she doesn't have to defend herself. Besides that, take into account her other qualities which basically keep the band together.

Think deeper than what the eye can see. So what if Sesshoumaru and Kagome barely had any interactions? The point of the matter is that if you were to stick the two of them in a room and strip em of their powers to keep em from killing each other, they would get along, eventually.

I agree with the random yokai thing as well. I can more see him bang a b***h and leave her rather than stay tied down to any one thing. Scuse the language.

Also, I would like to point out that because of Kikyo, I don't believe Inuyasha and Kagome could ever exist happily. Because Kagome is the reincarnation of Inuyasha's past love, and she looks remarkably like her as well, Kagome will always have to doubt if Inuyasha would love her for herself, or because she was Kikyo's reincarnation.

Have you ever tried out a KagomexSesshoumaru fiction?

EDIT TO ADD::

So Sesshoumaru might have developed some camaraderie feelings for Kagura. Yes, they are two lone demons who don't socialize very well. One's a smart mouthed b***h and the other's a smart mouthed dog who only speaks when to insult his brother. I just don't see Sesshoumaru giving his all to Kagura, because she just plain doesn't deserve it. Perhaps they shared something in both being lonely, but I feel like that's all.


I had never meant to make it sound like I felt Kagome was completely incapable of defending herself - I am well aware that she is the one who is the most powerful against the likes of Naraku and the one he fears the most; given the miko powers she possesses as well as her ability to not be easily tricked by Naraku's manipulations.

However, despite all her abilities, Kagome is not known for her physical attacks (she's largely long range - what with the arrows - and mentally strong); so when push comes to shove and her life is at risk, the others have to get her out of the way to protect her from a potentially life threatening situation. Without her, they can't win.

In regards to Sesshoumaru and Kagome eventually get ting along if they had their powerrs stripped, leaving them on the same power level, as it were - I beg to differ. There is no evidence that could support that, so it's nothing more than a fan assumption in that case.

Based on what I've seen in the manga, Sesshoumaru also doesn't come off as a 'love 'em and leave 'em' kind of youkai - he's portrayed as far too honorable for me to believe he'd treat females/lovers in such a way. If I had to guess in this case, he'd mate for the sake of producing an heir and maintaining his status as a daiyoukai - but that's the extent of it. If he did fall in love, I could not see him as being publically affectionate.

While on the subject of Sesshoumaru's affections, manga chapters do show light on the fact that he did, in fact, have more than simple commadarie inclinations when it came to Kagura. Evidence goes as follows...

- dragging her out of the river after she had been wounded by Gouryoumaru. Some would argue he simply took her out when he went to collect Rin and Jaken, but he could have just as easily left her behind when saving his vassals.

- when Kagura leaves after awakening, there's a rather clear shot of Sesshoumaru watching her as she leaves. The pain and worry in his eyes are very obvious. (Sesshoumaru is a youkai of few words - his thoughts/feelings are best conveyed in his eyes/face).

- when he finds her dying in the field of flowers, he attempts to save her with the Tenseiga, only to find it's impossible to do so. This is actually the first time Sesshoumaru has ever used the tenseiga with the genuine wish to save someone (Rin was a test of Tenseiga's power and Jaken was a nessecity). The way he speaks in that chapter shows pauses in his speech, and, of course, his eyes/face speak volumes.

- when Mouryoumaru taunts Kagura's memory and actions, Sesshoumaru goes beserk. For the first time, ever, he looses composure and attacks blindly - nearly getting himself killed in the process. Say what you will, but no one puts their very lives in danger for the sake of a friend's memory. They'd fight for their honor, but not at the expense of their own lives.

- shortly thereafter, Sesshoumaru is confronted by Toutousai - who says Tenseiga called to him when it sensed the change in Sesshoumaru's heart (this being the show of sadness and anger for someone other than himself). When asked if he has any idea when that happened, the first image that comes to Sesshoumaru's mind is Kagura as she sits in the field, followed by Mouryoumaru's taunting, then Kagura's smiling face as she slips away, then Mouryoumaru's final insult to her memory that sent Sesshoumaru into his blind rage. Sesshoumaru silently acknowledges that's when Tenseiga must have felt the change in his heart and summoned for Toutousai.

- and, once again, when Sesshomaru receives the newly reforged Tenseiga, he thinks back on Mouryoumaru and Kagura's softly smiling face - and thinks to himself that he would see to it that her death had not been in vain.

So, yeah - with all those points listed, that's why I feel if Kagura had lived, chances are she and Sesshoumaru could have become an item, easily.

And, as far as how Inuyasha and Kagome could not work out - though Kagome is Kikyou's reincarnation and bares a resemblance to her, Inuyasha can tell the difference between the pair through their respective scents (as they differ somewhat). Their personalities also differ greatly (Kikyou is calm and serious while Kagome is more outspoken and free spirited). Besides that, Inuyasha has - in his own way - stated his love/devotion to Kagome and they almost shared a kiss, but had been interrupted by Souta. The only possible way that Kagome and Inuyasha could not become an item is if they're forced to live in their own respective timelines and Inuyasha perishes in the 500 years between them (not sure how long hanyous live in comparison to youkais - but I don't think it's all too unlikely that 500 years would be nothing to him).

As for have I ever given Sesshoumaru x Kagome fics a chance - yes, I had - and didn't much care for them as not only do I feel the pair do not mesh well at all, buit the fics I have read handle them rather OOC - which only encourages me not to read any more of them.

Aneko-Sama


Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:36 pm


I didn't mean for Sesshoumaru to have to love em. I meant it more as a carnal desire sort of thing.

Even though Sesshoumaru has shown more than camaraderie actions towards Kagura, I still cannot see them being a couple. If anything, it still feels like they're just friends with common interests or whatnot. Even if they might have ever had a chance of hooking up, I don't really see them lasting long. It seems like it might be an unhappy marriage sort of deal in the end.

While Kagome may smell different, she is still connected to Kikyo in her resemblance. Don't get me wrong. I'm a total shipper in the canon universe for watching Kagome and Inuyasha's affections for one another grow. I'm only a big fan of the SesshoumaruxKagome pairing because of the possibilities of their personalities to mesh.

May I ask what fanfics of this genre you might have read? Because I'm certain that you have not read the best of them if you are still not even considering in giving them a chance.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:53 am


Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh
I didn't mean for Sesshoumaru to have to love em. I meant it more as a carnal desire sort of thing.

Even though Sesshoumaru has shown more than camaraderie actions towards Kagura, I still cannot see them being a couple. If anything, it still feels like they're just friends with common interests or whatnot. Even if they might have ever had a chance of hooking up, I don't really see them lasting long. It seems like it might be an unhappy marriage sort of deal in the end.

While Kagome may smell different, she is still connected to Kikyo in her resemblance. Don't get me wrong. I'm a total shipper in the canon universe for watching Kagome and Inuyasha's affections for one another grow. I'm only a big fan of the SesshoumaruxKagome pairing because of the possibilities of their personalities to mesh.

May I ask what fanfics of this genre you might have read? Because I'm certain that you have not read the best of them if you are still not even considering in giving them a chance.


I know what you meant, actually, when you were talking about how Sesshoumaru would use females. That's what I meant about the 'love 'em and leave 'em' comment - use them to gratify his sexual needs and then cast them aside when he was done.

And again, I could not see him use females/lovers in such a way - his personality does not match the description of a gigalo/playboy.

And I'm sorry - but I'm not into the cliched 'tough boy hooks up with kind girl; they change each other in a positive way and they live happily ever after' scenario. That is an ideal fantasy born from Hollywood fluff, but not something that plays out in reality. In the end, (in reality) such couplings always end up with one dumping the other based on personal annoyances over the clashing personalities (hence why I can never see a Kagome/Sesshoumaru hookup. Kagome's bubbliness/kindness would not turn Sesshoumaru into a kind, soft guy and Sesshoumaru stoic, serious persona would not make Kagome more mature).

Though if you want to believe that - more power to you.

On a side note - I honestly fail to see how Kagome's resemblance to Kikyou would be a deterance to an Inuyasha/Kagome hookup. If I had to guess (and I apologize if the assumption is wrong), you mean Inuyasha would confuse Kagome with his former love. However, except for their very first meeting where he had mistaken Kagome's scent for Kikyou's (which he immediately corrected himself upon getting a better whiff of Kagome's scent and a better look at her appearance), Inuyasha has not confused Kagome with Kikyou (or vise versa) throughout the entire series. So, the similarities between the two women cannot be that striking.

As for what fics I have read - Tales from the House of the Moon - and at that, admittably, only a summary from folks I know (trusted friends who read fics as a hobby) who have read the fic. From what they had shared with me, it's a fic I would not touch with a ten foot pole (not only for the pairing involved, but for the OOC way Kagome and Sesshoumaru were handled within).

All I needed to read in that summary was that Inuyasha dumped Kagome for Kikyou (why is it in every fic I read that deal with shipped pairings involving Kagome, Inuyasha is made into an a*****e and breaks Kagome's heart to be with his undead ex-lover? It's incredibly annoying!), Kagome automatically believed she was the miko being discussed in the ancient scrolls from Feudal Japan (making her incredibly self centered to believe she could be the only possible miko being mentioned in the age old battle), and Sesshoumaru bowing down to Kagome upon seeing her again (Sesshoumaru would never humble himself in such a manner to anyone - least of all a human) to tell me to stay far away from this fic.

And if the brief summary wasn't enough to turn me off, the fanarts for the fic really made my stomach turn (I've seen anywhere from G rated to X rated and all of them left me cringing - I just do not see the appeal in this pairing).

In the end, what I'm saying is this - even if the fic (whether its 'Tales' or another fic you had in mind) is the most wonderfully written piece that has ever graced the pages of the internet, I will still not touch it - why on earth would I want to read a fic about a pairing that I find makes no sense whatsoever and leaves me gagging? It is not going to change my viewpoint from despising it to suddenly finding this shipped pairing as one of the best out there if I waste the time to read a fic that involves these two clashing personalities as a starring couple.

If you want to support them, that's all fine and good. But understand that not everyone sees what makes this shipped pairing so incredibly awesome to some - and no amount of fics or fanarts will change their minds.

Aneko-Sama


Sleepy_Tuna_FIsh

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:44 am


I apologize if I may come off as a bit overly strong about my feelings towards that particular pairing. Please continue on your merry way biggrin I shant bother you any longer.
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