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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:06 pm
A few more factual points for you.
1. A word is a word is just a word. If Twistd doesn't like me using it, I'll change it. Once again, it's a bloody word.
2. It is impossible to be a religious scientist. Impossible.
3. Wicca is Paganism. Do more of your own research. Wicca is a new-age neo-Paganism. And yes, Paganism is witchcraft, but so much more than that. Trust me. I know.
4. I also do my research. I don't just talk out my a**.
5. As for those hypocrites, those are the people you follow, they're also your peers. Remember that.
6. Constantine. He made Jesus the god-like figure he is today. He's the one who wrote the New Testiment. No 'God said this to me' story there.
I will give you credit, though. You do have a basic idea of what you're talking about. To a point.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:19 pm
Woah for really long replys that hurt my head, I prefer skys responses they are short and easier to read.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:31 pm
Sky-sama A few more factual points for you.
1. A word is a word is just a word. If Twistd doesn't like me using it, I'll change it. Once again, it's a bloody word.
2. It is impossible to be a religious scientist. Impossible.
3. Wicca is Paganism. Do more of your own research. Wicca is a new-age neo-Paganism. And yes, Paganism is witchcraft, but so much more than that. Trust me. I know.
4. I also do my research. I don't just talk out my a**.
5. As for those hypocrites, those are the people you follow, they're also your peers. Remember that.
6. Constantine. He made Jesus the god-like figure he is today. He's the one who wrote the New Testiment. No 'God said this to me' story there.
I will give you credit, though. You do have a basic idea of what you're talking about. To a point. And my arguement for you. Yes, it is possible to be a scientist and a religious devoutee. It's all about accepting one theory above another, but also being able to change you view to a certain extent. Constantine did not write anything. He helped put together the canon, scriptures written by other members. No, God did not tell them what to write, it is an account of what happened, and is INSPIRED by the Holy spirit. Wichcraft is "craft of the wise ones" without help of God. Wicca is not a religion, although it is a structure which embraces paganism as it's religion. here's an analogy: catholocism and christianity are different. Christianity is the belief that Jesus is the savior, who will free us from sin, as a "sacrifice," such as the sacraficial lamb. Started By Paul, a man blinded by God, later healed, and was told to spread the word. He was, at the time, a pagan. He was one who was sent do KILL christians, but the realization that Christ is the true savior has converted him. Catholocism may be concidered a branch, although it was there from the start. seperations, due to people not believing exactly the same way caused branches. Catholocism is a brance if christianity. Catholics are people who embrace chritaiantiy as it's religion, as it's basic belief structure. Paganism is a religion, whichcraft is not. therefor, they can not be the same. I know that the F word is just a word, but I do not wish for people who may be lying about their age/are here, but not posting, see that word, or become acustomed to swear. it is morally wrong. For your reply on the hypocrites, I understand that they are my peers. I do not follow them, but they are my peers, such as my peer may be a person my age. A person in the same group. Someone of the same intelect. doesn't mean that I agree with them, or follow them. Keep in mind that Jesus is a jew, but he was threatened to be stoned, for not complying with them, or believing exactly the same way... they were his peers.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:33 pm
[ Message temporarily off-line ]
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:44 pm
pixxyevil i know its long..but a good laugh at the end teehee...etc I don't know wether what you said was a satyre or cinicisnm, but whatever you said sounded so stupid and pessimistic. I hope that was a joke, or I would feel really sorry for you, for having such a bleak outlook on this... "discover"? nah... more like... pseudo science gives evidence to the nonexistance of ANY form of religion. Should religion not exist, mankind is still more apt to being moral... it's easier in the long run... and scientists believe that doing good for others actually make you happier(I think it was... the seratonin...(SP) that made you happier...) BTW. it is scientifically possible for a virgin birth... although it is highly improbable. EDIT: also, I am tired of stating(although this may be the first time I have stated in this guild) that the 'molestation scandal" is being hyped up by the media... looking for material, so they can be recognised... as I had said earlier, it's a religion with one of the lowest % of such happening... it is, though, apt that anyone would, given the right circumstances, become a molestor. Because such a vast amount of members of the Catholic church(over a billion), it is probably gonna hold more molestors... please not that the % is smaller... *is having a hard time explaining this* here's an analogy: let's say that the Christianity has 3000 molestors, jews have 800, muslims have 500, and buhddists have 700. If each had 3,000,000,000, then the catholics seem like the bad guys. But that's not so. each have less, and less members. judaism has much less than christian poppulace, so if that were so, it would have a larger % than if it had 1,000,000,000. But Christianity has mroe than just a billion members, that is only the count of Catholic members. but then, in that instance, the % of catholic molestors would sharply decrease. It just so happens that a few of the clergy happen to be molestors.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:44 pm
damn did i shut everyone out with that last post? wink
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:58 pm
pixxyevil damn did i shut everyone out with that last post? wink not me. stare
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:10 pm
holyredccphysicist pixxyevil damn did i shut everyone out with that last post? wink not me. stare you just caled me stupid a minuit ago....dont ever do that ...child stare im entilted to my vews...so back the FU*K off ...never insult someone for there vews...bigit stare
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:15 pm
pixxyevil holyredccphysicist pixxyevil damn did i shut everyone out with that last post? wink not me. stare you just caled me stupid a minuit ago....dont ever do that ...child stare im entilted to my vews...so back the FU*K off ...never insult someone for there vews...bigit stare I did not call you stupid. i said that the post you made sounded so stupid and cynical.. not you. I rarely call anyone stupid. And I don't call retarded people stupid(when I say retarded, I mean mentally retarded, not as in insult, but medical issue.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:18 pm
holyredccphysicist pixxyevil holyredccphysicist pixxyevil damn did i shut everyone out with that last post? wink not me. stare you just caled me stupid a minuit ago....dont ever do that ...child stare im entilted to my vews...so back the FU*K off ...never insult someone for there vews...bigit stare I did not call you stupid. i said that the post you made sounded so stupid and cynical.. not you. I rarely call anyone stupid. And I don't call retarded people stupid(when I say retarded, I mean mentally retarded, not as in insult, but medical issue. ok..misunderstanding....but still my vews are mine..thats why im able to post it ..dont condem me for haveing a diffrent vew then yours
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:28 pm
I'm a devout Catholic, but am not against abortion. Bad mix. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:43 pm
pixxyevil holyredccphysicist pixxyevil holyredccphysicist pixxyevil damn did i shut everyone out with that last post? wink not me. stare you just caled me stupid a minuit ago....dont ever do that ...child stare im entilted to my vews...so back the FU*K off ...never insult someone for there vews...bigit stare I did not call you stupid. i said that the post you made sounded so stupid and cynical.. not you. I rarely call anyone stupid. And I don't call retarded people stupid(when I say retarded, I mean mentally retarded, not as in insult, but medical issue. ok..misunderstanding....but still my vews are mine..thats why im able to post it ..dont condem me for haveing a diffrent vew then yours As I have said in one of the first posts in this thread. condemn and damn are different. I do not condemn, and i have not the ability to damn.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:52 pm
Im not posting my religous beliefs due to the fact I will get chewed out by the extrordinaraly long posters in this topic.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 5:42 pm
Whoa. Pixxy typed a lot. What is this world coming too!
Anyways, as one how has touched on a lot of religions, and believe me..I've been Catholic, Greek Orthidox, Wiccan, Jewish, Baptist, Born again Christian...do I dare go on? I held a rather troubled life growing up and I tried to seek out my nitch in whatever religion I felt was right at the moment. Come to find out, I really don't NEED an "In Stone" set of rules to believe in whomever or whatever. I'm not overly spirital and I avoid church settings as much as I can. I've come to the idea that most religions are just branching off of others. One taking a few things from another, adding a few things just to make it more..theirs. One doesn't, in my mind, need to seek out answers from whatever you believe in..I believe in myself. Good enough for me. I understand that I am not "godly" and I came from somewhere..as a human. I strongly believe in Evolution and the fact we evolved into what we are today.
I respect the western idea of "God" yet, I don't feel the need to believe someone is, and excuse the term, Up there. All in all, I guess what I'm trying to say is, I believe nothing and everything at the same time. You want to believe is the Christian idea of God, great. Go for it. You want to believe in Isis, Goddess, Mother and Crone, wonderful. Budda, whoever. I'm happy that it works for you. I personally just live my life and deal with what comes and not go running to a religion when times does bad.
b***h at me, I'm sure someone will. I don't mind. Always up for a good debate. mrgreen
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:14 pm
~Sonja Midnight Blue~ -Totally edited to save space. - =o <3
I know I said I was Pagan before, but remember the catch. -To everyone- She has the perfect example. I've been Christian, Wiccan, so on etc.
Religion is just a fabricated set of rules to control people's lives. There are flaws in every religion, so that's why it's the belief that matters. =3. Only, I happen to take all dieties and acknowledge their existance. I follow some 'guidelines' from each of the religions I feel I'd be interested in.
--Damn. My train of thought de-railed.
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