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generaly, it is possible to Wild Shape into a Dragon at lower levels. Feat's in the Draconomicon, I believe.

Warforged. The only reason I'll ever try for the Dmg.Red. 6/- at first level. How it works?
Generic Warrior 1
Shaky and the Murky Eyed flaws
...So, that's four feats at first level:
Toughness
Roll With It x3 (pre: Con 20, Toughness; benifit- grants Dmg.Red 2/-, can be taken multiple times, effects stack === Savage Species)
...So I've got a bulky machine person that can stand up to many a Goblin. Arm it with a great sword, continue to take the Roll With It feat, and you've got one tough killing machine.

Kobold = Small, dog-like lizard. Good Sorcerors
Elan = Abberations that used to be human, good Psions
Maenid = Sparkly people with Psionic capabilities (Oooohh, shiny!)

Just because you can doesn't mean you get anything useful out of it. But nevermind the knowledge of game mechanics. You've known Iomma for years, and apparantly I can't really be trusted. stare Wait... Five or six years? o.O I met her in Junior High. Did you go to school with her? I might know you...

Forgot about the one in the Draconomicon. ^_^ What were the prerequisites for that one? And the DR sounds like fun... Enough to neutralize most of the monsters you have to deal with at level 1, but not so much as to make the game lame by overpowering the character. Still gotta be careful when fighting orcs, though.

I had that problem recently with a Goliath half-golem with the brute feat. Rediculously high strength score, damage reduction, immune to most magic, size category Huge hammer, only ECL 5.

In the meantime, stop fighting with eachother. We all know eachother to some limited degree, in any case, "the friend of my friend is my friend, and the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Let's all just get along, please?

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Well, I was planning a small tutorial starter prelude (for Nat), possibly gain enough xp to gain a level. Then maybe get into some monster slaying, ya know, start small with Goblins and Orcs. Then have the story progress into more major areas fighting higher level people and bigger monsters...*gets a bad idea involving the year-long-ritual-spell-cast concept*...or something along those lines. Introduce the party to just about anything a party might expect to come up against. As is my style, reputation's not a big thing with commoners, but in guilds it might mean a lot. The Merc Guild would probolbly be a good guild to start off in, as they don't really have any prerequisits to join, but it's harder to make rank.

Hmm, I like this Guild concept. I'll try for a little of that as well. Get some competition goin'. So keep that in mind. If you don't already know, my campaign setting already has several major guilds:
Fighter's Guild (duh)- Generaly LG, accepts strong and skilled fighter types, leaders are usually Paladins of a moderate level.
Mage's Guild- Usually LN. While they all fall under the same general rule, they sometimes compete with eachother in the lower levels, but are united under one banner none-the-less. Difficult to make rank as you have to prove it through spellcasting prowress, bu isn't difficult if you're higher level.
Artisan's Guilds- This one falls under a large category of things. Based mainly on the Craft skill, good way for one to make money legaly without having to fight for a merchant licence. Opens up to a large amount of random quests. Easiest to make rank, but that realy doesn't get you anywhere.
Theives Guilds- Very underground, more common in larger cities. Very CN-CG. Very good way for a Bard or Rogue to get a lot of reputation in the underground. Quests are long, but fun and involve more skill-play than sword-play. Easy to make rank.
Mercinaries Guild- Realy open in the public. Usually conflicts with the Fighter's Guild in getting commisions for work. They differ from the FG by the fact thay they'll take anyone, so they have a large number of members of any class/race/alignment. Pays less than the FG, but they have more quests because they take any sort of commision, wiether it be cleaning someone's basement to slaying a Half-Feind Ancient Gold Dragon out in the middle of some dessert. They usually don't put limits on the missions, so lower levels can try for the higher stuff if they'd like.

Let's put it this way:
Caitlin- Mercinaries Guild Captian
Alell- Iron Root Mages Guild Guildmaster (but now he's dead and his daughter's the GM now)
Cadmus- Silver Dragon Fighter's Guild Guildmaster.

It's simple, so put it in that context.

Whatever you want to do Iomma. I remember I did a campaign with you once before with my sister...it was fun for that whole day...
You go right ahead and plan that small tutorial starter prelude. Help me gain a level. I love smashing goblins and orcs. And other baddies.
btw, i wasn't being competetive either...it is possible that Fiver and I have met previously.
I went to Ceder heights...didn't know iomma then...but once i started at south kitsap...i met iomma in 10th grade. In ceramics...

*quotes iomma* "moo cow" 3nodding

Legendary eagle. wink 30 Dex. I can find so many ways to abuse that. Legendary ape one level later, 30 Str. The breath weapon of a wyrmling dragon is kinda crappy, though the natural attacks aren't bad. As for double-damage from fire... That's something PC's exploit. 95% of what one fights in D&D doesn't have any.

I guess it has its uses, so long as you don't restrict yourself to just turning into dragons... it's a case-by-case thing. I also kinda forgot about the huge natural armor bonus. ^^; I just kept looking at the ability score mods.

Yikes. >.o

Well... Um... Maybe they were smarter than typical mice?

And which class you figure you're gonna play? If cleric, I'll probably stick to my original idea of barbarian. If you'd rather be a druid, though, I'm thinking either a wizard who can buff you, or something that'd be more like a little sidekick, like a pixie. Or a pixie sorceror! o.o Oooohh...

Though we'd have to get to like ECL 7 or something for that. razz

Hence why I said "have to get to ECL 7". wink