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and... yeah....I'm exhausted....
I'll bet.
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It's the "good" kind of exhaustion...
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somebody has issues......??
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zannyxcore

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:51 am


No, I really don't like to flame people, I just wanted justification. And if I were to counter the previous statement, I would be banned, because I already got a warning for my first post in this topic.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:13 am


Jigoku_Angel
My older sister recently sent out parents an email telling them she was gay -fyi, terrible way to do it- and I'm not really sure what to think.

She had been going to BYU, but because she participated in a protest to change BYUs gay honor code (or something like that) and was even quoted in the newspaper for it, she had to move out. my brother tells me that she was getting threatening letters and treated poorly on campus after the fact.

Now she's transfering to UofU.

I don't think that my sister is gay. She hasn't made out with any girls or done anything farther than that, she just isn't attracted to boys. I think that she just hasn't met the right guy yet.

The sad thing is, my dad is really anti-gay. When my sister sent him that email, it broke his heart and he kept crying and blaming hiumself. My dad has it set in his mind that he is responcible for getting all or his kids to the celestial kingdom and with this latest development with my sister, he feels like he's failed.

I really don't know how to feel about this. I'm not quiet sure that I beleive it... my sister has always followed her friends and given into peer pressure and since one of her room mates has alot of gay friends, maybe they convinced her? I dunno.


Jigoku_Angel, I'm sorry for getting distracted by another post. That's a tough situation for you family to be in. I'll pray for you all.

It might help to remind your father of the second article of faith: "We believe that Man will be punished for his own sins and not for Adam's transgression." Basically, we don't believe in punishing people for the sins of the father and I think the reverse holds true as well. Parents are responsible for teaching their children the gospel; they are only responsible for their children's choices insofar as they fail to teach them God's laws.

As for your sister, I doubt there's anything you can say that will change her mind. All you can do is show your love for her. You don't have to tell her you agree with how she's living her life but don't give her any lines to cross. I haven't read this book but I've heard good things about it. It's called "No More Goodbyes: Circling the Wagons Around Our Gay Loved Ones." The author, so you know, is LDS and LDS values are reflected in the book. This information may help your father be more receptive to the book if he's as anti-gay as you say.

Itesa


AutumnFalls89

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:00 am


zannyxcore, if you want info on the church's stance on homosexuality and the reasons for it that is fine. I'm sure there are guild members who would be willing to explain it to you or even debate the issue. However, the guild isn't the place for that sort of debate. We try to keep arguments out of the guild. I am sure Paladin and other would be willing to answer your question if you send a pm.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:50 am


But, my question is, how can you make a post about such a controversial topic and not expect some sort of controversy to arise from it? Just a thought.

zannyxcore


AutumnFalls89

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:25 pm


Therein lies some of the problem with this topic. Though the church is against homosexuality there are a variety of opinions of the members. I had planned on doing this earlier, but did not. I am locking this thread because it could (is) cause problems and hard feelings.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:36 am


zannyxcore
But, my question is, how can you make a post about such a controversial topic and not expect some sort of controversy to arise from it? Just a thought.


This is why many of these controversial topic wind up being locked, as many members feel so strongly about it they they breach guild guidelines and offend many members. I would not ban you, bytheway, for stating the way you feel, but there may be a warning issued and the topic locked.

I would like to remind members that flaming is against the guidelines of the guild. I appreciate Zannyxcore, for withholding "flame", and ask that members also consider that he has been raised in a far different manner than many of us. We grew up, being taught that homosexality is an abuse of divinely given power. It is otherwise for zannyxcore. The church's official standpoint on this doctrine has been stated, and there are many who struggle with this issue, be it real or imagined. Thankfully, I am not the judge of whether or not these people will be saved in the kingdom of God - that is left to a perfect, just, and loving Father in Heaven, who knows ALL the background in the persons life that would cause them to stray and will have the knowledge as to whether it was simply beyond the individual to escape from. We do not persecute others. We are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. We do not participate in homosexual promotions, but we do associate with those who may.

Because of the lack of respect within the thread, it has been locked. An appeal can be sent to me, DWK, or CA.

paladin140
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