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 Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:45 pm
The one thing I do know about Irish is that is seems very hard to pronounce. It sounds almost nothing like the way it's written... How complicated is it really?
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:32 am
Pirate_pixie Dia is muire duit! Aoife Ni Mhuninneahain is ainm dom! Conas ata tu Luasaigh? taim go tuirseach tractha.is mic leinn ealaine me agus ta post parama agam fresin,mar sin ag can deireadh seachtaine bhionn me beo wrecked.conas ata tu?
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:29 am
Im A Little Pea The one thing I do know about Irish is that is seems very hard to pronounce. It sounds almost nothing like the way it's written... How complicated is it really? Yes, the pronunciation is quite hard. But actually, the Irish writing system makes more sense than English; English is the language that has the hardest writing system in Europe! So the Irish writing system is actually easier than the English. But yeah, it's hard. But I've notice that I'm slowly can pronounce it better and better... But in Irish they also have sounds that English doesn't have, but other languages does also have things that English doesn't have.
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:22 am
Mashed Computer Im A Little Pea The one thing I do know about Irish is that is seems very hard to pronounce. It sounds almost nothing like the way it's written... How complicated is it really? Yes, the pronunciation is quite hard. But actually, the Irish writing system makes more sense than English; English is the language that has the hardest writing system in Europe! So the Irish writing system is actually easier than the English. But yeah, it's hard. But I've notice that I'm slowly can pronounce it better and better... But in Irish they also have sounds that English doesn't have, but other languages does also have things that English doesn't have. I think Danish and Russian could give English a run for its money. mad D
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:27 am
Eccentric Iconoclast Mashed Computer Im A Little Pea The one thing I do know about Irish is that is seems very hard to pronounce. It sounds almost nothing like the way it's written... How complicated is it really? Yes, the pronunciation is quite hard. But actually, the Irish writing system makes more sense than English; English is the language that has the hardest writing system in Europe! So the Irish writing system is actually easier than the English. But yeah, it's hard. But I've notice that I'm slowly can pronounce it better and better... But in Irish they also have sounds that English doesn't have, but other languages does also have things that English doesn't have. I think Danish and Russian could give English a run for its money. mad D You think the Danish and the Russian writing system is harder? Well, they might be hard, but English is actually the hardest. I should know since English is my second language...
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:56 pm
Mashed Computer Eccentric Iconoclast Mashed Computer Im A Little Pea The one thing I do know about Irish is that is seems very hard to pronounce. It sounds almost nothing like the way it's written... How complicated is it really? Yes, the pronunciation is quite hard. But actually, the Irish writing system makes more sense than English; English is the language that has the hardest writing system in Europe! So the Irish writing system is actually easier than the English. But yeah, it's hard. But I've notice that I'm slowly can pronounce it better and better... But in Irish they also have sounds that English doesn't have, but other languages does also have things that English doesn't have. I think Danish and Russian could give English a run for its money. mad D You think the Danish and the Russian writing system is harder? Well, they might be hard, but English is actually the hardest. I should know since English is my second language... Danish and Russian are very similar to English in how two things spelled alike won't rhyme and two things spelled differently will and how everything just generally doesn't make sense. mad D The word in Russian for "Hello," even, is spelled "zdravstvujte" and is pronounced more like "ZDRASfeechay," or even "ZDRAshi." mad D
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:05 pm
Mashed Computer Eccentric Iconoclast Mashed Computer Im A Little Pea The one thing I do know about Irish is that is seems very hard to pronounce. It sounds almost nothing like the way it's written... How complicated is it really? Yes, the pronunciation is quite hard. But actually, the Irish writing system makes more sense than English; English is the language that has the hardest writing system in Europe! So the Irish writing system is actually easier than the English. But yeah, it's hard. But I've notice that I'm slowly can pronounce it better and better... But in Irish they also have sounds that English doesn't have, but other languages does also have things that English doesn't have. I think Danish and Russian could give English a run for its money. mad D You think the Danish and the Russian writing system is harder? Well, they might be hard, but English is actually the hardest. I should know since English is my second language... finnish, Russian, Danish ,Swedish (your native language) is for me.....since english is my native language I admit struggling with it but you do get used to it so it's not as hard.
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:25 am
Finnish orthography isn't bad at all. I can pronounce it quite well (according to Finnish people) and I've only spent a couple of minutes studying it.
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:25 am
Koko.Dk Mashed Computer Eccentric Iconoclast Mashed Computer Im A Little Pea The one thing I do know about Irish is that is seems very hard to pronounce. It sounds almost nothing like the way it's written... How complicated is it really? Yes, the pronunciation is quite hard. But actually, the Irish writing system makes more sense than English; English is the language that has the hardest writing system in Europe! So the Irish writing system is actually easier than the English. But yeah, it's hard. But I've notice that I'm slowly can pronounce it better and better... But in Irish they also have sounds that English doesn't have, but other languages does also have things that English doesn't have. I think Danish and Russian could give English a run for its money. mad D You think the Danish and the Russian writing system is harder? Well, they might be hard, but English is actually the hardest. I should know since English is my second language... finnish, Russian, Danish ,Swedish (your native language) is for me.....since english is my native language I admit struggling with it but you do get used to it so it's not as hard. Of course you think it's easier, English is your native tongue. But I found a link in this guild about English and people with English as second language, and it said, somewhere, that English had the hardest writing system in Europe. The word ''make''. In Swedish, ''make'' means husband, and it's pronounced very different from ''make'' in English. The Swedish pronunciation does actually make more more sense than the English pronunciation, and I'm not saying it because Swedish is my native tongue. In the Swedish pronunciation of the word, every letter is pronounced. In the English pronunciation, they ''E'' is silent. But there is cases there Swedish words are pronounced in a weirder way then English words, but in general, English spelling makes less sense. If you look at pronunciations in many European languages, you'll see that English is the most irregular one. Oh, and a funny thing... When I was little, seven years I think, and I had just learnt how the word ''I'' was spelled, I got surprised. I thought before that it was spelled like the Swedish word for ''ouch'', ''aj''. Because that made more sense to me. I thought about this when I saw how Irish words was pronounced.
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:19 am
No one's actually teaching anymore... crying
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 2:24 pm
I thought that other girl was teaching sad
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:33 am
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:31 am
Wow, everyone is confused!
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:05 am
Sorry crying crying I haven't been able to get on for ages and when I had it was only really quickly and then it stoped working again, computer was acting up, had to get it re something or other..broken computers aren't my strong point confused confused , something to do with the internet, comp..anyway..SORRY. crying crying
Irish isn't that hard to pronounce once ya kinda get the hang of it..
like..
Buíochas le Dia..Thanks be to God..
it's B-w-a-c-a-s le D-e-a,
it makes sense for most words and then others you're like where the hell did that come from.
Gaeilge, Irish..Gw-ael-ga
Sometimes, like the two examples there, when a constanant comes together with a vowel..
it makes kinda w sounds.
it changes from word to word, I don't know how else to explain it..wait I've a better idea, bear with me..
I hope this will work better..
Vowels..
Vowels are easy to pronounce..
vowels with fadas..which makes them longer
pronounced like..
á ---- pAy
é ---- hEy
í ---- knEEw
ó ---- wOe
ú ---- shOe
Normal vowels.. pronounced like..
a ---- ago
e ---- peck
i ---- pick
o ---- mock
u ---- muck
i and e are slender vowels..a, o and u are broad vowels..
each constanant is pronounced in either a broad or lender way, depending on the vowels surrounding it, Irish spelling requires that the vowels match on either side of a consonant..Caol le caol, leathan le leathan ("Slender with slender, broad with broad").
Irish has fewer constanants then English..
broad consonant--pronounced --Slender consonant --Pronounced
b ---- Eng. "b" ---- b ---- Eng. "b" ----
c ---- Eng. "k" ---- c ---- Eng. "k"
d ---- Eng. "d"---- d ---- Eng. "j"
f ---- Eng. "f" ---- f ---- Eng. "f"
g ---- Eng. "g" ---- g ---- Eng. "g"
l ---- Eng. "l" ---- l ---- Eng. "l"
m ---- Eng. "m" ---- m ---- Eng. "m"
n ---- Eng. "n" ---- n ---- Eng. "n"
p ---- Eng. "p"---- p ---- Eng. "p"
r ---- rolled "r"---- r ---- Eng. "r"
s ---- Eng. "s" ---- s ---- Eng. "sh"
t ---- Eng. "t" ---- t ---- Eng. "ch"
There's the séimhiú aswell, it's when a h is added basically. It used to be represented by this little dot, but that was way before my time, it's not really a letter, it just does something to the word..
"h" sometimes appears at beginning of a word before a vowel, or in words borrowed from English. It is pronounced the same as in English when used by itself before a vowel.)
It changes the way constanants are pronounced.
I'll finish it later, have to write an Irish essay, oh the joys. Be back on in a while, don't have time to finish it now, sorry. I know I know it all looks really complicated, might have something to do with me not being able to explain things well but eh, no it'll make more sense when I'm finished.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:00 am
Can we still go with this even though the month's over?
[[If the teacher wants to, that is.]]
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