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 Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:45 pm
Nikkos's head sinks slightly under the wieght of the arm on his head, making him look a little hunched over, "I guess I should start getting used to it." He laughs again, as if it was a joke.
XD The Odyssey and other simular greek myths took over my life after a spring vacation to the keys with a book of the myths. I wanted to make a modernized version of it involving the Bermuda Triangle Myth.
Nikkos has been with me since then, but back then I dropped him, unnammed, because I was overly frustrated by trying to make him realistic, since it was about ten years ago, back before I really had the internet. I could never really let him go, but he stayed in my storage of ideas that need revamping, simply known as "unnamed Greco-American clothing person (I picked clothing making so he can fix his own sails and not be running around naked)".
I then ran into the IoDM and as I pondered who to make for it... When I went to a greek festival and "Unnamed Greco-American" popped his head up and said "Helloooooo? Can I come out now?"
"No, I'm trying to figure out who to make for IoD..M... Nikkos! Great to see you again! 8D"
"... Uh oh."
I then devoted basicly a month to getting him fully developed, researching exact places (Such as the Hospital he was born in and the College he went to). If you look on Nikkos's profile, his journals have recipes for Dolmades (Stuffed Grape Leaves) and Greek Coffee. <3
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 8:22 pm
I can give you an honest constructive crit if you like. In the meantime, Nikkos overall sounds like a fun solid character all round from what I read over. 3nodding If you're after an irony sense, he hates sleeping on land and high places... so I'd suggest a Wild Mountain Goat if it hasn't been suggested already. >=3 They loove high mountain places, and the island has mountaineous/volcano area, so yeah. mrgreen
There's only one other goat on the island, Which is Stewart, and he's an angora goat, so you'd be good to go on that one. mrgreen
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:39 pm
Constructive critique is what Im here for XD Especially if its actually constructive, since some people seem to think constructive is "Worst character ever". Not here, of course, but back in highschool my art teacher used to have to resort to lowered grades for the year for those sort of comments. Never got them myself or gave them like that, but constructive critique is actually kinda hard to get it seems.
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:11 am
XD I guess Kat is busy with schoolwork
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 4:10 pm
Anyone have new suggestions or any comments at all? XD I'm starting to wonder if everyone who is going to bother checking out my board has already done so, and I always feel a little wierd holding conversations with myself...
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:37 pm
Alright! you wanted a Critique and now you're going to get one!
Always is nice to see characters that have varied backgrounds and talents, and think be nice to have a fashion-type designer on the island.
Overall the character is well rounded and pretty good, though there are a few things I would like to mention.
However do have some reservations about the plausibility of how Nikkos is able to afford to go to college and then afford to buy a Small yacht, even if Nikko's father sells his business and land. Be more believable if it was a rented yacht or sailboat.
also would be good if you mentioned where Nikko was planning on traveling with that sailboat, is it Trans-atlantic or up the east coast or elsewhere.
And so you know, for the islanders that have arrived by landing by boat, their boats have been taken apart and dismantled so it isn't likely Nikko would be able to stay in the boat's remains as his duplex, it would be viewed as a risk to allow islanders to escape and that just wouldn't sit well with Moreau & Company, even the sails would probably be destroyed so they couldn't be used by any crafty islanders.
As your your serum choice, while the 'misfired' sheep is a nice idea, the failed serum was a unique and special event, and it is more than likely that it won't be repeated again. my personal option on the sea sponge is that it is a far too simple an animal to be used for a serum.
eventually you might want to narrow down your serum choices
and thats about all I have to say, and hope that helps
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:20 pm
XD The Missfired sheep was just a joke picture, as was the sea sponge. My plan was actually to let the artist decide what they want to make him, or just a regular domestic sheep, marbled Orb weaver, or a Monkey of some sort, like a Spidermonkey.
As for the money, it stated that his family also owned plots of orange tree covered land land and sold to realitors, which I know for a fact can actually let someone live comfortably for life since my dad is friends with someone who did that and now works just for something to do. However, I will add that the Odyssey was a "Fix-er-up" yacht that was otherwise going to be torn apart and thrown away. And as an only child and his mothers weakness, she would send him to school herself, even though he's been saving money for himself as well.
And I understand the Odyssey will be destroyed now, I just forgot to change that -- Thanks for reminding me!
Thank you for the time, and its great to get constructive feedback at any time.
Or ANY feedback, really...
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:36 pm
Here we go, finally writing this up for ye. =D
Hokay =3 *cracks knuckles* Let's see here. Overall character design (strengths, weaknesses, so forth), seeing no errors there really, or anything that struck me as being weird or out of place. Nikkos sounds like a solid constructed character all-round, and it's quite obvious to see you've put some real thought into him - a huge bonus as the island works best with realistic humble characters (like some guy who could be your next door neighbour or something). The only thing I found wrong was his age - If he was born on November 4th 1983, he'd be 23 until November. ^__~ But 24 this year, so yeah. Really minor detail and now I'm being just a bit silly here. =D
His likes and dislikes are quite believable and realistic when considering his genealogy/parental ethnicity. Fear of heights is a nice realistic touch, and would fortify his desire to travel by sea. Although I have to say, I really don't like dolmades, hehe. XP This is irrelevant to the critique and I must get back to it now, bad Kat.
Nikkos' background story was a wonderful read. I was originally just skimming over it, but ended up sitting there and reading the whole thing properly. About the only thing I could think of with that was him buying the boat and leaving his mother by herself. If she's a really protective, caring and doting mother, would she allow her only son to sail away from her on a fixer-upper boat? This is not certainly not something you need to ponder or even change in your quest, but it's about the only little weak spot I found there.
His purpose on the island would be freakin' awesome. He would fill a nice little niche in the island. It would give him something useful to do also, and his prescence and purpose would be more than welcome. I can definitely see some of the characters on the island requesting new garments to fit them properly (most have just cut holes and so forth in their clothes). I know for a fact that the island doesn't have a tailor or a clothmaker, that's something your character could fit into wonderfully.
As for his entrance onto the island, normally I would say to avoid the shipwreck idea ( just because it's been done a few times already. Pyroth, Thina, and... I forget whom else), but you've done a wonderful take on it that I don't believe I've seen before.
I really don't know what else to tell you that really needs fixing, I think it's great in all honesty. =3 He's a well rounded character, great solid personality, good background, good outlook on the island. As for the animal, you can leave that open and as ambiguous as you like, your quest isn't dependant on any animal type (I wrote my quest heavily around the Thylacine and couldn't change the animal without some drastic questage overhaul). Great work =3 You could also list a number of animals and have the artist pick if you're really not fussy. Sabin has said himself that animal choices can be anything, and "whatever serum the lab techs felt like mixing up that day". blaugh
Oh, this totally isn't necessary to your quest in any way whatsoever, but would be fun stuff for you to ponder if you want to get 'into' your character more. Would he be for or against the labs for what they've done to him (holding him prisoner on an island, wrecking his boat, telling him he can't go home, etc)? Would he mind making clothes for the islanders for free? Or perhaps he could exchange his work in exchange for something else (like a barter system)? Does he like to smoke/drink/etc? Would he build another boat and try to flee the island?
Hehee, awesome quest overall. I tried to pick this quest apart as best as I could, but only found one thing wrong, which I already mentioned. I'd love to see this character come to be and exist on the island. He could really add to the setting.
Great work. And best of luck to you!
- Kat
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:32 am
Alright, I've added and tweaked to fill in those blanks that you pointed out, and added a part about "recreation", which touches on alchohol and smoking (Alchohol = alright to downright goofy, smoking = "Cancer D8")
And I finally realized he happens to be ADHD, which is pretty common, but would explain a lot of things about him, too.
And grah, I keep messing up that age thing. XD Ok I'll bump 83 down to 82, but not touch anything else. XD I want him 84, but if I keep bumping everything else down I'll end up with him supposed to be 24 but really 25. XD
I also added he had to coax his mother into letting him do his "Coming of Age" journey. She usually lets him do what he likes as long as he doesn't hurt anybody with it, and the Odyssey WAS fixed up quite nicely into a fine working ship. It needed work, and a lot of it, but he devoted himself to it. That was a year of cramming things together, thats for sure, but he works best under pressure sometimes, and it was his art year and he usually got his sketch homework done early.
And yeah, I wanted to avoid the shipwreck, but also felt that, with his personality, they wouldn't have been able to trick him onto the island with the idea of the job unless he was already there. Sort of the "please, I don't even have a proper education yet". Plus, while he was good in his classes he wouldn't really be anywhere that they would be able to notice him enough to try and trick him on. And he wouldn't really stop at the island under situations, figuring it was a private island for somebody rich.
So, with the problem of "Don't want him to wreck, don't see it as likely to have him invited on, and he won't just walk in, how do I get him to the island?" I mulled it over and then thought I could make it seem as if the Island was a saving grace. Weathering storms out in the middle of the ocean is not safe, and he knows that. If he saw the island he would take shelter there. But then, if he could see the island, he could be seen too, and he would likely avoid it because of the cliffs.. So the storms rain became even harder, thicker, and eventually it was driving blind on the grace of God.
Which, being mildly religious, is how Nikkos would see his threading the needle and making it to a safe spot for the night, and that particular island wouldnt be seen by people easily because of the jungle around it and the bend in the river, which is why I selected it as the spot to weather the storm out. But, if he could leave, he would have.. So that navigational equipment took a pretty hard hit in the storm..
XD Rationalizing my butt off.
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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:48 pm
I like this Idea for Nikkos. xD
I would critique, but I'm too lazy and I need to get off the computer now.. 8D
Good Luck. <3
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:49 pm
New poll! I've been sort of worried that "Nikkos's Odyssey" may need a little tweaking in the title. I've been wondering if I should add "To Circe's Island", since Circe was, in the Odyssey, the Witch-goddess who lived on an island turning visitors into animals.
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:32 pm
I say you call it, "The Quest to be an Amazingly Regal and Beautiful Sea Sponge!"
Just kidding! Don't do it!
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:24 pm
XD LOL "The quest of Spongebobs frumpy cousin"
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Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:26 pm
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:57 am
XD Nikkos would be so screwed if that happens, but Sponges can be pretty boring to draw. :F
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