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 Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:00 am
chrisgboyle dragon_lover2004 I was reminded of the tardis when the rift machine started working as well. Also, the devourer was called Abaddon, which was one of the names of the Beast in the Dr Who episode with the ood (when the ood were possessed and talking about the Beast, they said 'Some may call him Abaddon') Anyone else notice or am I just a little bit too obsessed with Dr Who? they looked the same too so i think its supposed to be the same thing actually because tis just like a devil isn't it. how scary that a giant monster lives below cardiff! oh and i like the guy at the prison...'dont use that look on me i've seen you use that look on lots of people etc. lol hilarious! He was meant to be the son of the devil thing that the dr sent into the black hole wasn't he? Billis said something like "The son of the great beast" That bit confused me, cos he it was meant to have been locked in rock from the beginning of time wasn't it? but the earth isn't that old, the dr saw the beginning of the earth and it didn't start with a rock with the beat thing in. I suppose they mean underneath the rift, below space and time or something
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:07 am
Minnn But Jack in the end stole the show!! Aw, he's just awesome. Did you notice too, he was answering one of Tosh's questions and he said "someone saved my life, and it's like they've been keeping me alive for something"...I'd thought at the end, maybe they're just keeping him alive to fight this Abadonn monster? But then he lived again...so it must be for something else? Maybe something at the end of Season 3 DW? I think that is what he was kept alive for, but he has been aloud to live one more time. i think if he dies agin he'll die properly. The badwolf-not-dieng-ness was came out of him and killed the beast thing wasn't it?
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:11 am
He said only the doctor can fix it, so it will probably go, most likely back in to the tardis.
Now, if Jack loses this ability, or curse, to never die, because he has actually been classified as dead so many times, I think he will actually die, I dont think he can live without it, so I think that The Doctor wont take it away.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:13 pm
But there was this weird light thingy coming out of him when he fought that Devourer thingamajigger.
So maybe that was his immortality?
I hope not. eek
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:17 pm
I would say that because the devourer was feeding on life, it was taking much more than an average human being where it just went through the shadow, that it became a beam.
If it was his "heart" that saved everyone, I would have died from the cliche xd
Jack is immortal, that is the thing that makes him unique, notice however that the more times he dies, the longer he takes to come back.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:58 pm
I kind of interpreted that the severity of the death changed how long it took him to recover. When he was shoot once in the first episode he got up within a few seconds, when he was shoot repeatedly it took him slightly longer than just being shoot once, but when he had his life force drained by Godzilla Abbadon on his rampage through Tokyo Cardiff, it took him several days to resurrect himself.
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:32 am
CmdrPuffin I kind of interpreted that the severity of the death changed how long it took him to recover. When he was shoot once in the first episode he got up within a few seconds, when he was shoot repeatedly it took him slightly longer than just being shoot once, but when he had his life force drained by Godzilla Abbadon on his rampage through Tokyo Cardiff, it took him several days to resurrect himself.
Nice observation there.
But I think you're right. Hopeyou'reiright.
And yes, Jack's immortality (and his promiscuousness - though I can't spell it) does make him unique...
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:19 am
I actually loved those two episodes.
Shame about the cliche revivals/death of Abbadon. Ccome on, a kiss bringing you back too life. Surely you can think of something better than that Russel T. Davis!
And I'm still left wondering where they found the original Captain Jack Harkness. Soho?!
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:17 am
I think it would have made more sense for Ianto to have kissed Jack awake and not just from a shipper point of view. But in the Torchwood Declassified, John said it was because Gwen had a spark of life or some other crap that was probably in the script, and that's what brought him to life. But, uh, Ianto would have had an actual "spark of life," IMO, from when Jack brought him back in Cyberwoman. Go figure.
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:34 am
Gwen has a rift connection though ninja
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:47 am
Even though RTD denies it...(see Gwen/Gwyneth thread)
They're definitely building up a parallel between Jack and the Doctor--compare the way Jack acted when they discovered the Cyberwoman and the way the Doctor acted whenever Rose was threatened--now BOTH of them don't have real names! I think there will be some interesting conflict inside the TARDIS this time around; how will the Doctor handle another Doctor-ish character?
Lovely bits of Janto--about time--and not too much Ogwen! Hooray for that! I like Owen and Gwen yelling at each other much more than...um...what they were doing earlier in the season.
What possessed Jack to make Owen his second-in-command? He's (Owen, not Jack) mentally unstable, and an idiot to boot! Although I did rather like Owen's reaction to the Black Death--I'd kind of forgotten that he was a doctor.
Here's a question: why did Bilis only scratch out the last three numbers? Why didn't he just get rid of the card altogether?
Okay, my rants are done. Bye now!
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:06 am
russel denies it because he doesnt want the secrets getting out.
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:33 pm
If he didn't deny it then he'd be short of a couple of episodes for the second series, I'm guessing.
God, lots of talking goes on when I'm trying to make my way around the underground.
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:41 pm
Hey - just rewatched the episodes - why did Bilis have a Torchwood folder in his desk?
Could he be Torchwood 4 (that keeps disappearing)? Is he a part of Torchwood? Or, was the folder a sign that he was investigating Torchwood?
...just really want to know who that fellow is. So many qualities he had were Time-Lordish...but evil razz and then he's there in the episode saying to Gwen "I'm sorry. I'm so sorry." <- exactly the same line the doctor says (quite a bit)...maybe the writers just like it...
I hope he turns up in DW this year biggrin (as the Master razz )!!
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:16 am
He couldnt be the master because I believe he died for the last time, and all the masters look similar. He is human, I think, that was given this power by someone. Billis is ... hmmn ... Maybe he has Dalek Technology?
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