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 Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:48 am
Quote: Yeah, there's tons of legends of a viral way to shift Actually, there are no "true" werewolf legends of people being 'infected'. Those stories are usually a mixture of vampire myths. Quote: So far there has and always will be two seperate were forms... Zoanthrope and Therianthrope. Zoanthropes are the shifter types who can physically shift their bodies and the Therians are weres that only have the "phenotype", but not a genotype to build off of to shift. These are anthropology terms for animal-people in legends and history. For that field, yes, that is what therianthropy is; animal-people without any 'shifting', an example would be like the egptians gods.. But when talking about therianthropy as in a shifter sense, we are talking about people who are spiritually their born inner animal and can shift mentally, physically, auricly, astrally, or other forms. So wereanimals in legends and folklore would go under therianthropy in this way.
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:47 pm
Quote: Actually, there are no "true" werewolf legends of people being 'infected'. Those stories are usually a mixture of vampire myths.
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:03 pm
What I meant by "true" was stories that depict a creature that is definately a wereanimal. Half-human, half-animal. Or a human that transforms into an animal, or vice versa.
I didn't mean that there is actual evidence of these stories to be truth or factual.
Certain stories of lycanthropy weren't actual werewolves, but people who had bouts of delerium or had the medical disease lycanthropy.
As with my beliefs in transformation, I believe change is possible. You certainly can add things, but not get rid of, according to physics. But you can change it. Example, when you roll up a piece of play-dough, into a ball. You can change it by smashing your fist to it, so it is now flat. But it still has the same amount of mass. Same with this.
I won't say my theory on the existence of weres who can actually change their physical shape, just don't want to get into that argument. I have my reasons and experiences to believe or doubt myself. But I will say, as it has been said before, these Weres are most likely rare enough not to be noticed.
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:46 pm
Abbot_Natalis Lol, I woke up this morning wondering if I'd get to this post to find a bunch of people yelling at me and I'm so glad I didnt. Anyway, what even happened to the original poster? I know that when I post stuff I always check it often but I guess it might just be that they can't check their post right now. I've read everyone... but no one seemed to say ANYTHING that helped me
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:23 pm
And what exactly were you looking for (us to say)?
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:27 pm
Dorian Requiem _Chaos_Vincent_Valentine_ A Wereling is born and a Werewolf is made. It is unknown when the first Werewolf was created but it is said that a human ate the flesh of a Wereling to take the Werelings strangth and abilities into himself and he became the first Werewolf. It is also said that eating the flesh of a Wereling is the only way to become a Werewolf. I am not saying these statements are true but it is what I believe. Another thing about the Wereling is that they do not truely know that they are a Wereling until they have sexual inneractions. When a Wereling has sexual inneractions with another they reseive all of there abilities. Before a Wereling goes through said changes they are in great danger for they are hunted by both Werewolf and Vampire. The reason why Vampires hunt the Werelings is the Wereling blood. The Wereling blood is like candy to vampires. It also increases their abilities and makes them stronger. It is very aparent why Werewolves hunt Werelings. They do it to create more of their own kind and indoing so making themselves stonger. Alright, ignoreing that this seems slightly fanfictionish. What you're saying is to be a Werewolf, you have to eat the flesh of a Wereling. And if a Werewolf is hunting a Wereling, then they've already eaten Wereling flesh. Second, from what I've come across, there are barely any "Vampires" around that would fit into the what you are saying. (ones that like actualy blood). And could you elaborate on what makes Werewolves special enough to be a totally seperate catagory from other "Werecreatures"? Only slightly? I can't say I've ever seen reference to any form of feud on any level between vampires and werewolves (which I doubt exist on any level other than the one known mental illness).
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:15 pm
Dorian Requiem And what exactly were you looking for (us to say)? Yes. What did you want us to help you with? To say something that you want to be truth, but isn't? Wouldn't that be lying and/or being ignorant?
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:45 am
Dorian Requiem And what exactly were you looking for (us to say)? something to help me with my problem, like "It wont happen" or "Thats crazy" or something to make me feel a little better before the full moon comes out
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:50 am
Full Moon=Shifting (or whatever you want to call it) is not true like most stories say.
The whole changing thing (in whatever sense you describe it as being) usually happens when you are asleep. Meaning you're ok before and after that night.
And what are you afraid of. Changing, losing control, heightened senses?
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:33 pm
Dorian Requiem Full Moon=Shifting (or whatever you want to call it) is not true like most stories say. Hm. You know. Its true. Full moon doesn't equal shifting. But I've wondered if shifting, and/or things like heightened activity in dreams and 'magic' stuffs are in rise during the moon of your birth. In otherwords, if you were born under a new moon, the "fun" begins then. And so forth. And then of course those statistics that say there are more crime during a full moon, more injuries, more animal bites. etc. Does make you wonder on some degree. If a full moon may even just heighten someones adrenaline or something similar. So as to say, in theory, if one shifted during an excess of adrenaline, during an attack or something, I'm sure it'd cause some sort of 'full moon' fever.
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:45 pm
babyXphantom Dorian Requiem Full Moon=Shifting (or whatever you want to call it) is not true like most stories say. Hm. You know. Its true. Full moon doesn't equal shifting. But I've wondered if shifting, and/or things like heightened activity in dreams and 'magic' stuffs are in rise during the moon of your birth. In otherwords, if you were born under a new moon, the "fun" begins then. And so forth. And then of course those statistics that say there are more crime during a full moon, more injuries, more animal bites. etc. Does make you wonder on some degree. If a full moon may even just heighten someones adrenaline or something similar. So as to say, in theory, if one shifted during an excess of adrenaline, during an attack or something, I'm sure it'd cause some sort of 'full moon' fever. Show and cite statistics for heightened during the full moon.
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:00 pm
Marcious_Pharoe Oh.... and I wish people would stop calling weres Lycans. .....it was a stupid movie coined phrase and now it's like the hip new label.... Just as many anthro artists hate being called furries, I hate the word Lycan. I'll shut up now *get's ready to go to sleep*
~'+.*}}i{{*.+'~
Actually, if you had read my first post in this topic, you would have seen that "lycan" is actually the most appropriate term for werewolves, simply due to etimology and the very origin of the word "lycanthrope". All it is is a shortened version, and I'm quite sure that it was not COINED in Underworld; it just simply came to the attention of more people through that medium.
~'+.*}}i{{*.+'~
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:31 pm
I'm just gonna sit back in this post for abit. Seeing as I only speak from personnal experience, I don't have much to say.
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:08 pm
Azhreia Jenah Marcious_Pharoe Oh.... and I wish people would stop calling weres Lycans. .....it was a stupid movie coined phrase and now it's like the hip new label.... Just as many anthro artists hate being called furries, I hate the word Lycan. I'll shut up now *get's ready to go to sleep*
~'+.*}}i{{*.+'~
Actually, if you had read my first post in this topic, you would have seen that "lycan" is actually the most appropriate term for werewolves, simply due to etimology and the very origin of the word "lycanthrope". All it is is a shortened version, and I'm quite sure that it was not COINED in Underworld; it just simply came to the attention of more people through that medium.
~'+.*}}i{{*.+'~
Yes, but you can't call a werecat a lycan, now can you. Nor can you call a werepenguin a lycan. Were(insert non dog related animal), and you can't even try to call it a lycan. Its Weres in general, not just "werewolves".
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:11 pm
The Resurrection Show and cite statistics for heightened during the full moon.The first set of things was a 'what if' and based of personal events. The rest, can be found on several documentaries, being around a pack of dogs around the same time (you'd have to know the dogs before hand, as in work with them several days out of the week for a long period of time-- most of them went all goofy -- as I've done), police, EMTs, and so forth tend to have the most cases on a full moon. Look around. And you'll find your answers. Quote: Yes, but you can't call a werecat a lycan, now can you. Nor can you call a werepenguin a lycan. Were(insert non dog related animal), and you can't even try to call it a lycan. Its Weres in general, not just "werewolves". Aye.
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