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 Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:16 am
The Undying Lands are basically a metaphor for heaven or the next great adventure as it were. Ateast, thats what I was taught in Fantasy class. And didn't Gandalf go with Bilbo and Frodo to the Undying Lands with the elves, in the books, like he did in the movie? I never finished the third book, though I did read the unfinished tales and the first two, aswell as some of the Silmarillion.
But effectively, he made it so that his characters were unusable in a sequel. Though someone could go into detail about the few good characters that remained. Sam and maybe Merry and Pippin, and tell the story of the two blue istari wizards. But I don't think that would catch much of anyone's interest.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:25 am
But the fact is that stepping on a ship and sailing away is not the same as having a character actually snuff it.Quote: Though someone could go into detail about the few good characters that remained.
He really didn't know when to stop.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:31 am
Clark~Kent The Undying Lands are basically metaphor for heaven or the next great adventure as it were. Ateast, thats what I was taught in Fantasy class. And didn't Gandalf go with Bilbo and Frodo to the Undying Lands with the elves, in the books, like he did in the movie? I never finished the third book, though I did read the unfinished tales and the first two, aswell as some of the Silmarillion.
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:32 am
Having them step on the ship was just a nice way for the characters he created to move on. The effect is basically the same.
Did he tell it in story form? or did he do it in his "I want to eat my own head" history book way?
Were there indications that they never went on any adventures ever again?
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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:33 am
Natalia Romanova Clark~Kent The Undying Lands are basically metaphor for heaven or the next great adventure as it were. Ateast, thats what I was taught in Fantasy class. And didn't Gandalf go with Bilbo and Frodo to the Undying Lands with the elves, in the books, like he did in the movie? I never finished the third book, though I did read the unfinished tales and the first two, aswell as some of the Silmarillion.
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:11 am
Well, I've heard the rumors of the author killing off several main characters in the last book including Harry, not sure how much truth is in it. Perhaps she is colaberating with the actor who play's Harry in the movies, since he's done nothing by whine and complain about wanting not to play Harry anymore. Affraid he will be known as just 'Harry Potter' the rest of his carrier, though personally I don't find him to be much of an actor, the author might be writing him out of the story so the kid doesn't have to play Harry anymore. Who knows, its all left up to speculation. Though I heard that HP 5 is possibly rated R, something tells me that the theatre turnout will be rather poor if that happens. Anyway, just adding my two scents.
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:03 am
The Undying Lands are a sort of heaven on earth idea. Mortals who manage to get there will have a slightly extended lifespan but eventually die just like they would anywhere else. The Undying part is a reference to the elves, Maiar and Valar who live there, it doesn't mean that everything there doesn't die, animals, plants etc. still snuff it over there.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:39 pm
I realize it may still be a touchy subject for some but honestly, so what if Harry dies in the final book? The way the series has been progressing it may very well be something J.K. has been planning from the very beginning!
You can cry "bad move" all you want but we won't know how well or how horribly she pulls off Harry's potential death until we actually read it, right?
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:41 pm
I agree. If he dies and it's wonderfully done then I'll accept it as is.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:44 pm
Same here.
For all we know, the Harry Potter series is supposed to be a tragedy in the same vein as Hamlet rather thna just a light-hearted children's fantasy.
Plus, for all the flack it's gotten over the years, getting upset over yet another character death (albeit the main character) before it may or may not happen is just...silly.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:44 pm
Personally I think it makes sense for Harry to die so no one tries to do a sequel series...even though they might anyway.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:54 pm
They will. I thought she has already declared that he would die a long time ago or something. Or that he or voldemort would.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:52 am
Voldemort and Harry stand ready for their final battle, years of struggle have cultimated for this...then the U.S drops a bomb on them both...
U.S.A!
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:01 am
I would totally buy that.
...In america!
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 11:12 am
In Soviet Russia, bomb drops you.
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