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What is the best T2 deck?
Tooth and Nail
34%
 34%  [ 8 ]
Mono Blue Shackles
21%
 21%  [ 5 ]
Red Deck Wins
21%
 21%  [ 5 ]
Rats
4%
 4%  [ 1 ]
Beacon Green
8%
 8%  [ 2 ]
White Weenie
8%
 8%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 23


foils

Invisible Noob

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:55 am


SclickH
1313.EXE
-2 swamp's!!? sweatdrop


So when he sides in cranial he can fetch for one.....


-might aswell SB the swamp's
since it's useless in the deq.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:00 am


why take up room in ur sideboard when u need land in the deq? they still produce mana and u can use it to pay for ur colorless parts. when he sides in, all he has to do is fetch them instead of forests or get both...

InfernalPenguin


foils

Invisible Noob

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:07 am


InfernalPenguin
why take up room in ur sideboard when u need land in the deq? they still produce mana and u can use it to pay for ur colorless parts. when he sides in, all he has to do is fetch them instead of forests or get both...


-well atleast make the 2 swamp's
into G since, cranial is in the SB.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:44 pm


1313.EXE
InfernalPenguin
why take up room in ur sideboard when u need land in the deq? they still produce mana and u can use it to pay for ur colorless parts. when he sides in, all he has to do is fetch them instead of forests or get both...


-well atleast make the 2 swamp's
into G since, cranial is in the SB.


No dude, you dont get the point...

Kilz88


SclickH

PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:44 pm


Swamps into forests? You need the B for the cranial extraction.................. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:29 pm


SclickH
Swamps into forests? You need the B for the cranial extraction.................. sweatdrop


-i know that. stare

foils

Invisible Noob


SclickH

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:21 am


1313.EXE
InfernalPenguin
why take up room in ur sideboard when u need land in the deq? they still produce mana and u can use it to pay for ur colorless parts. when he sides in, all he has to do is fetch them instead of forests or get both...


-well atleast make the 2 swamp's
into G since, cranial is in the SB.


Well you said it..... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:01 pm


SclickH
1313.EXE
InfernalPenguin
why take up room in ur sideboard when u need land in the deq? they still produce mana and u can use it to pay for ur colorless parts. when he sides in, all he has to do is fetch them instead of forests or get both...


-well atleast make the 2 swamp's
into G since, cranial is in the SB.


Well you said it..... sweatdrop


-nevermind. sweatdrop

foils

Invisible Noob


metaljesse

PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 11:30 pm


1313.EXE
-2 swamp's!!? sweatdrop


The general consensus is "Why waste sideboard space when you can just pop in a certain colored land in a green deck and easily fetch it". Sideboarding lands in is a bad idea, in that you need your metagame slots. I'd actually only run 1 swamp, since you're using birds (or should be) so getting black is no biggie.

The beacon decks I've seen run 2-3 Jitte and 3-4 Sword of Fire/Ice.

for instance:

Artifacts
4 Sword Of Fire And Ice

Creatures
4 Birds Of Paradise
3 Eternal Witness
1 Fangren Firstborn
4 Sakura-tribe Elder
4 Troll Ascetic
4 Viridian Zealot

Legendary Artifacts
4 Umezawa's Jitte

Legendary Creatures
1 Dosan The Falling Leaf
2 Iwamori Of The Open Fist

Sorceries
4 Beacon Of Creation
2 Kodama's Reach
1 Rude Awakening

Basic Lands
20 Forest
1 Swamp

Legendary Lands
1 Okina, Temple To The Grandfathers

Sideboard:
3 Aether Vial
3 Engineered Explosives
2 Sword Of Light And Shadow
4 Cranial Extraction
3 Plow Under

The 2 Kodama's Reach, random Fangren Firstborn, random Dosan, and Iwamori over Karstoderm (now, it would be replaced with Stampeding Serow) is a bit wierd. This is from the France Regionals (1st place), and honestly, some of the card choices are a little wierd. But hey, whatever. I would've taken out the Fangren for another Kodama's Reach, not run Engineered Explosives, and up the numbers on Sword of Light/Shadow and Plow Under (but I'd have to test it.).

Beacon Green's an alright deck, but I"m not sure I'm liking it too much. Personally, I'm playing 4 color control at regionals, now that I've finally aquired some Cranial Extractions.

I modified the Hana Kami/Gifts Ungiven/Utility deck to be more competitive and controlish that it's block constructed counterpart. It's fun, but I had a bad night tonight testing it, and changed it's construction a very large amount. smile Hopefully it'll stand and actually win a few games, I'm hoping.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:14 am


-fair enough. see i'm plannin'
on buildin' a decent black-
cemetary rock deq. can u
like hook me up on your
vision. see i won't mind
spendin' 200 tix. to built
it.
3nodding

foils

Invisible Noob


metaljesse

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:26 am


1313.EXE
-fair enough. see i'm plannin'
on buildin' a decent black-
cemetary rock deq. can u
like hook me up on your
vision. see i won't mind
spendin' 200 tix. to built
it.
3nodding


hmm..like..old school rock or the newer rock? Newer rock would be Pernicious deeds, but older rock would use Phyrexian Plaguelord.

You'd need some sort of really kick-a** token generator if you used Plaguelords (Beacon of Creation, definitely). You NEED duress, possibly distress (I'm assuming you're using MTGO, since you referenced Tickets), you need to see ifyou can get some Chainer's Edicts, the Cemetaries, Living Wish (if you can afford it), and Ravenous Baloth.

Here's my idea of how it'd look....budgeted, of course.

Land:
12 Swamp
11 Forest

Creatures:
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Phyrexian Plaguelord
4 Troll Ascetic
4 Ravenous Baloth
2 Kodama of the North Tree

Spells:
4 Duress
4 Chainer's Edict
4 Beacon of Creation
3 Kodama's Reach
2-3 Sensei's Divining Top
3 ???
3 Oversold Cemetary

that'd be my decklist, but I don't know what cards you have at your disposal. Sorry I just sorta jumped in, but I'm a big rock enthusiast. I've build all 3 different versions of the deck (Pyrexian Plaguelord, Pernicious Deed, Death Cloud), so I'm really familiar with it.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:36 am


-well i'm plannin' on buildin'
the ol' skoo' roc' deq.
3nodding

foils

Invisible Noob


metaljesse

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:04 am


1313.EXE
-well i'm plannin' on buildin'
the ol' skoo' roc' deq.
3nodding


Good God, man..your abbreviations rae killing me! USE A ******** G, FOR CHRISTS SAKE!.. lol xd

anyway, well, you need at least 8-12 slots of creature kill (maybe more), token generator, land accel (8-12 slots), lots of utility creatures (Plaguelord, Baloth, Withered Wretch, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Haru-Onna, etc etc), and some draw (if you can get it, Night's Whisper, or something like that). If you're worried about equiptment (like Jitte and Swords) or other annoying artifacts, run Molder Slug (I'd run 3 in the sideboard). The build above is very rough, but it could work with some tweaking. I've never really spent a whole lot of time with the Plaguelord Rock (I much prefer to play Deed-Rock..but you have to sell your left testical/breast on MTGO to get a Pernicious Deed).

Anything specific you want to do with the deck?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:18 am


-not much do u
think i need like
bop's and city of
brass.?

foils

Invisible Noob


metaljesse

PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:38 pm


1313.EXE
-not much do u
think i need like
bop's and city of
brass.?


Bop yes, city no.
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