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whee Hmm...the prospect of NaruGaa is appealing although, for some reason. (Don’t kill me! gonk )

I can't see their relationship as more than brotherly.

They are both unstable emotionally - in a sense that they need someone strong to support them.

Both of them do not have that emotional maturity.

As per say, for the reason of so many SasuNaru fans. I don't know what drives Naruto to bring Sasuke back but it may be because Sasuke was Naruto's support - someone who makes him feel, dare I say?, human and not some vessel with a monster. Oh and this is because Sasuke was his first friend, someone who challenges him. And Naruto feels as though he needs to take care of that precious bond - he had to take care of Sasuke; and in turn, it made him feel needed.

So that strong drive cannot be build on friendship alone - it's kinda impossible, he even rejected Jiraiya and that relates that Sasuke is more important to him than becoming Hokage.

And as for Sasuke, as he did not kill Naruto at the Valley of the ends, it proves that his feelings for Naruto runs deeper than the desire to kill Itachi. And after the time skip, when they meet again, what was with Sasuke's expression? he did not even considered Sakura. And the whole 'I could kill you on a whim'. If he really meant that then Naruto shouldn't have been dead - by the rate of Sauke's speed.

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For Gaara, like they say, he needs someone to love him. He is so very emotionally starved that he might need the constant attention of his partner and in turn, he'll be protective as hell. I'm just assuming this since after having something that you want for so long - it's instinct to want to protect it. And if that person is Naruto than it will be tough for him, as there is no other character who is more free spirited than our little dobe. <3

So if those two get together, sure, it will work in the beginning but there chemistry is not that well balanced, they will tire each other out in the end.

As I can see, it's best if they're best friends - sometimes, it's better to be friends than lovers.

“There is a certain desperate loneliness of two parallel lines that will never meet in the same plane.”

Gaara and Naruto are just too similar that they will outbalance themselves.

NOTE: About Naruto’s drive to bring Gaara back. But Naruto is always like that, and this isn’t the only time he’s cried over a lost friend or so determined to rescue. So although it may add points, it’s still a common thing for Naruto to do.

You know, I never really thought of GaaNaru pairing. xp I was always a big fan of GaaLee. I'm a Lee fangirl big time. Hell, I even bought keychains of Gaara and Lee and clipped them together and when people asked me about it, I say that they're having buttsecks. lmao. But after reading all of these arguments, I must say that I favor GaaNaru... xd

Thank you. Just... thank you.

Now, first of all, anyone even considering that our yaoi couples will ever become canon, please keep in mind that this is a shounen manga--it's audience is intended for boys and that's why it's in Shounen Jump. Shounen manga don't focus on romance, and if they do, I'm sorry to crush everyone's hopes and dreams, it 9 times out of 10 won't be BL romance. Therefore, keep in mind that both of these pairings are, at this moment, crack. Crack with some hints, yes, but still crack nonetheless.

I, myself, cringe at GaaNaru. No offense or anything, it's just my personality. I'm very possesive of my OTPs--and I always have been. Hence, why I voted SasuNaru. I didn't share Taito/Yamachi when I had them and I just seem to naturally mirror that action with my new OTP.

It's absolutely nothing against Gaara--I love the boy to death (although nowhere near my love for Naruto and Sasuke). I think that his story is a very tragic one and he deserves love probably more than the next joe who's struggling to pay his bills. I mean, he's been hated and feared all of his life; he's been branded a monster and a demon. I think that there is something there with Naruto... but I think that (now don't throw Gaara's sand in my eyes!) it's one-sided. I really do. Naruto was the first one to really reach out to Gaara--and certainly to be able to identify with him. If there are hints at all, I think that they'd be from a first love on Gaara's part. That's what I think that those hints are. Gaara's first love, his first real infatuation. Everyone's had them, so everyone should understand, right?

I think that Naruto sees Gaara as a dear friend; a close friend; probably the only one who can truly understand what it feels like to have a demon inside of him... but...I don't think that that's enough of a foundation to be able to form a permanent, strong romantic relationship with Gaara. Besides, Naruto cares about everyone. Naruto cares about everyone strongly. That's the major thing that makes Naruto, Naruto. Even if everyone turned against him again, I think that he would still care about them as strongly as he did before.

In this point in time in the series, Naruto's too busy being obsessed with Sasuke to develop any romantic relationships--and personally, the only one I feel that he could possibly make is with Sakura. That's the most probable, despite my opinion that they're more like siblings than lovers... stare (That thought makes my stomach turn...)

There was an arguement that Gaara and Naruto shared more than Sasuke and Naruto. That simply isn't true. I think that Sasuke and Naruto shared a lot more than Gaara and Naruto have, to tell the truth. Their relationship has a depth that I don't think that Gaara and Naruto's ever could. And I kind of doubt that Naruto would want to share that same bond with anyone else or else he wouldn't be obsessing so much over Sasuke when the boy told him, albeit in a roundabout and very Sasuke way, to go about his life and fulfill his dreams.

I don't think that I could ever hope to be able to summarize the depth of Sasuke and Naruto's relationship with each other. Thankfully, someone else has, and if you really want to know why so many people are hesitant to give up the pairing, I suggest that you read Thicker Than Blood by cephiedvariable. I think that this essay has really hit the core of what makes SasuNaru/NaruSasu so hard to shake.

GaaNaru's cute. It's fluffy. But to be completely honest, it's lacking a certain depth that would seal the deal. And to tell you the truth, a relationship based purely on fluff isn't a relationship, it's a fantasy. Everyone dreams to have that perfect relationship with no fights and no drama. It's like Kino Makoto in Sailor Moon, she's always searching, searching, searching for the "perfect guy" to come and sweep her off her feet to live happily ever after and all that she's doing by holding on to that is letting love slip through her fingers.

I've known a lot of people who have been in love and it's not a majority of fluff. Love is a hard feeling--it's nice when it's soft, but it's like a rose bush. It has thorns, and those thorns hurt.

It's a fantasy to think that every relationship is going to be perfect, sorry break it to you, King_Cicero_IV.

And to tell you guys the absolute truth, it really urks me when people use sex as a reason for why/why not two characters can be together. It's a cop out, because a true relationship isn't based off of sex, a relationship is based off of love and sex comes with that. It's a vapid reason to put two characters together just because fans want to satisfy their libidos. It shows that you really aren't in the fandom for the relationship, but just to get your kicks. That bugs me. A lot. And please keep in mind that they're only 15. They shouldn't have to be thinking about that stuff at the age that they're at. Sorry to tell you.

And I happen to be of the opinion that if Sasuke and Naruto got together, they wouldn't enjoy anything soft or simple because they get a kick out fighting and competing and trying to outbest each other. I hope that you've been watching the series close enough to realize that they both get a thrill like no other when they compete with each other. And I doubt that Naruto's a softie. I mean, the guy gave Sasuke 3 of the most "romantic" lines ever:

Ex 1: "Even if I have to break all the bones in your body and drag you home, I won't let you go to Orochimaru!"

Ex 2: "I'll break your arms *and* your legs and take you home by force!"

Ex 3: "If you're still not sure, I'll break you like a stick and bring you home immobile!"

One more thing, I love Sasuke. I love Sasuke very, very much. Sasuke is, I think, one of the most misunderstood characters in the series because he's one of the most complex. I really do. People just don't want to try to understand him and that's why they all hate him right now. cry Well, you all can hate Sasuke if you want to. You can bash him and call him a down right b*****d if you want to. I don't think that anyone could pursuade me to hate him.

And sorry that this is so long. I was having a very hard time voicing my thoughts. sad

Uchimaki Yuuzora... wow. You deserve credit for that post, and, to be honest, I'm responding because I feel like you got a little gipped in that you wrote such an amazing response to this thread, and the author of the thread didn't even bother responding to you ^^;

I agree with everything you said on the GaaNaru front, but there are a few things I need to point out/ask.



I know there will most likely never be a canon yaoi couple in Naruto involving any of the 'main' characters (can't say at all, because I consider ZabuHaku pretty damn canon). I've said this before, for the same reasons you gave. Kishimoto will never canonly put Sasuke and Naruto together simply because it's a shounen manga. However, calling any yaoi pairing crack is taking it a bit far, I think. I consider crack to be anything that has absolutely no basis, not anything that would not happen canonly. I mean... if Kishimoto were to suddenly change his mind and not put Shikamaru and Temari together (he's been practically screaming that he's going to pair them, lately), would that make their pairing crack? I don't really think so. So I don't call NaruSasu crack simply because it has basis. That's the same rule we used when we put together the fanfiction contest for this guild. Crack pairings were things that were just completely outrageous. If the manga weren't a shounen manga, if all of these things were actually taking place and the Naruto-verse existed, I think that NaruSasu would be plausible, so I don't consider it crack. Meanwhile, even if the Naruto-verse existed, I don't see... say... KakaNeji ever happening. Thus, crack.



This... I find to be a tad surprising. I'm a fan of both, myself. For example... I don't tend to read PWPs unless a friend writes them. I like there to be plot. I like the buildup to the relationship, the relationship itself, all of it. And I like for there to be things besides all of that, just basic plot that may or may not have anything at all to do with the main pairing. However. First of all, basing a relationship on sex is realistic. In the real world, it happens. In the quote, where you say that a relationship is based off of love, I think that's a bit naiive. The majority of relationships are definitely not based on love. I'm in college at the moment, living in a dorm, and I can tell you that sex is basically the driving force behind EVERYTHING there. It may not be pretty, but, again, it's realistic. Yes, there are fourteen-year-olds out there searching for lemons to read just because they want something to get off to, but that doesn't make some of the stuff that they're reading any less realistic or meaningful. And yes, Sasuke and Naruto are currently 15 in the manga, but that only makes it even more realistic for sex to be a driving force in their relationship. ^^; Not to be too brash, but fifteen-year-old boys are... well... horny. At this point, them having a loving relationship based entirely on their feelings would be abnormal. Not to say that it would be based entirely on sex, either. I just think that their relationship could go many ways, and that at this point, it's all up for interpretation.



THANK YOU crying I get tired of complaints about how emo he is. Most of the people doing the complaining emo more than he does when their boyfriend of two weeks breaks up with them. I think that for having his entire clan killed by his beloved brother, who then made him relive the massacre over and over, Sasuke's doing pretty damn well.

biggrin I've read over what I wrote, and I don't think that I stated a key point. I'm not trying to dissuade you or anyone else from your couple. I'm merely defending my OTP. You asked if SasuNaru was overrated and I wanted to let people know that the pairing isn't overrated, in fact, it's more often than not misunderstood, and there's a deeper reason for people to like it.

And about fluffy, that was my opinion, but you're completely and totally correct. No relationship with Gaara or Naruto could be easy.

I've never really latched onto this pairing simply because I love the idea of the two of them being like brothers. They've gone through so much and they can understand each other's problems in relation to having a demon locked inside of you. I just respect their brotherhood so much that I just can't see myself shipping a romantic relationship between them. The reason that I like the idea of them being like brothers more than lovers is for two simple facts. I see them being extremely protective of each other (like they have some sort of sibling-complex or something, lol) and coming to each other with any and all problems that they have. That's just how I prefer them.

I respect and admire your avid love for this couple. It shows that you're truly dedicated, a true and ardent fan, not some brainless zombie who doesn't know how to think that just goes with the crowd. I also love the fact that you look below the surface of their relationship. There are just too few fans (fans in general, and not specifically Naruto fans) that look below the surface of what they support. Naruto in particular needs more fans like you, like me, like the few that I've met, who are willing to look past the "it's cute", "it's hot", "it's smexy" reasons for supporting the show, its characters, and their relationships.

Eto... once more, I really, really want to emphasize the fact that I'm not trying to dissuade you from GaaNaru. I hate it when people try to tell me that my pairings suck and they're stupid and whatnot. Don't quit, okay? You've got an unfailing love for this couple and I give you a dozen and more kudos for that.

Thanks. You and some of the others here actually did persuade me that SasuNaru wasn't overrated, that's why I changed the title of this post. (and like I stated my opinion hasn't changed regarding Sasuke and Naruto, only that I now see where the true SasuNaru fans were comming from) I also went back and added alot to my origional arguement, which I think is now better than ever.

And you're right in that alot of fans don't look below the surface. I try to be the best Gaara fan that there ever was because I think he deserves it. There are too man people who are all like "omg Gaara is so hot...omg he's so badass" but does anyone really try to understand him or think about his point of view?

When Sasuke left I felt horrible, so I spent a lot of time trying to understand why he did what he did. I admit I did go through an anger stage where I was all F-you Sasuke, but after I got over that I put alot of thought into it and now I accept what has happened. I admire Sasuke's determination, but I think he's going about his goal the wrong way. I think he'd be much better off letting himself learn what Naruto wanted to teach him. But on the other hand, if that happened, then there wouldn't be a plot. One of the things that makes the series heartfelt is the whole tradgedy of Sasuke's character.

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