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 Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:55 pm
well i suppose if you going for nonchristian as well...then...yeah...i didn't take notice of that
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:07 pm
MaxstertheBard LearningtoBreath63 MaxstertheBard MaxstertheBard Right... Let's see. Mark 12: 13-16Later they [the Law-makers] sent some of the Pharisees and Herodians to Jesus to catch him in his words. They came to him and said, "Teacher, we know you are a man of integrity. You aren't swayed by men, because you pay no attention to who they are; but you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not? Should we pay or shouldn't we?" But Jesus knew they're hypocrisy. "Why are you trying to trap me?" he asked. "Bring me a denarius and let me look at it." They brought the coin, and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?""Caesar's," they replied. Then Jesus said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's."Sorry. I didn't have a chance to say what this meant so I didn't clarify. Give unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and God what is God's. This means that A) We have to take part in our government and we have to take initiative in things and B) we must still do what is God's will in all things we do. One of the things Christ disowned the Pharisees for is that they spoke they told people to do things and didn't do them, or preached things they didn't believe, or didn't go through with what they felt they had to do. They didn't follow God. And, most of the time, they were corrupt by the government, but didn't do what was in God's commandments during that time. (This is a theme found throughout the Old and New testament). Basically, you must do God's will in everything you do, including in your government, but you must do what the government orders you. Actually it was talking only about taxes but does not implement any other meaning after that, and that's the only time the bible does talk about the government, but it never tells us to go into a free government (America) and take over it and force other religions to follow our laws which is what we've been doing ever sinse the words "Under God" were put in the pledge. The Pharisees talk about Taxes. But Christ rebuked them many times like this. What has Caesar's name to it, you give to Caesar, but what is God's, what he commands and does and tells us to do, you give up to him. Voting, for instance: That is the Countries, for the President ('Caesar' in this case), but we are to live according to Christ (he didn't just tell us to do things for nothing, did he?) and follow what he said and his apostols said. The Under God is the fact that the nation's founders did what God wanted in everything they did, including government, thus a note on how this country was founded. We are not forcing others into our faith: we are keeping our brothers from falling. We don't overstep the boundries, and we come with love and respect, but we don't break what Christ told us to do. Actually 'Under God' was put in the pledge in the 50's because Congress thought it would help fight communism, and our founding fathers didn't put God in everything they did, they said we're going to run our government for everyone, not just Christians and that's why they put in the Constitution Freedom of Religion and talked about the separation of church and state, and I respect that separation because 25% of America isn't Christian and that number is growing.
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LearningtoBreath63 Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:33 am
-ekayu echimaryu- well....we have never had a clergyman or whatever it is we havent had one and my church is a First Assembly of God if that helps any more Assembly of God!! That's what I used to attend before we moved! You're Full Gospel. Definately Full Gospel.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:17 pm
is that good?I think it is...now thinking about it they say 'from the Gospel' a lot.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:05 pm
hehe, depends on how you look at it. Full Gospel believe in a lot of things such as singing worship songs, speaking in tounges, dancing, etc. that other religions don't believe in. I like Full Gospel, but still don't full fit in there. That's why I lean more towards non-denom.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:13 pm
metocloud hehe, depends on how you look at it. Full Gospel believe in a lot of things such as singing worship songs, speaking in tounges, dancing, etc. that other religions don't believe in. I like Full Gospel, but still don't full fit in there. That's why I lean more towards non-denom. I don't think a church can be good unless everyone fits in, thats just sort of a standard I think. Even a murdered should fit in at a church because we are to forgive people and not judge.
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LearningtoBreath63 Captain
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:39 pm
That's great in theory, but trust me, it's not what really happens. I think I feel more judged at church than anywhere else.
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:43 pm
I love to jump around and sing and stuff. I love to be the one who starts to jump then everyone else does it makes me feel special =D
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:13 pm
You forgot one gonk i'm southern baptist. bwahahahaha..... mainly, i like sweet tea that would just about kill everyone else from a sugar high^^
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:16 pm
metocloud That's great in theory, but trust me, it's not what really happens. I think I feel more judged at church than anywhere else. only you make yourself feel that way... all my best friends i meet at church, exept one, and i am getting her to attend church. yes, some people will judge you, but the only one who matters has already forgiven you.
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LearningtoBreath63 Captain
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:16 pm
Romaika You forgot one gonk i'm southern baptist. bwahahahaha..... mainly, i like sweet tea that would just about kill everyone else from a sugar high^^ I'm pretty sure that's protestant.
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Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:18 pm
LearningtoBreath63 Romaika You forgot one gonk i'm southern baptist. bwahahahaha..... mainly, i like sweet tea that would just about kill everyone else from a sugar high^^ I'm pretty sure that's protestant. oh... all i know is the word 'baptist' is in my church title, and you can't get much more southern than georgia...
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:48 pm
wow...Georgia....I would go crazy their xDD
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:22 pm
I'm not going to get into the discussion of it all, but I'm Apostolic Pentacostal (not sure if I spelt Pent. right).
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:37 pm
Christain and Christain only any questions?
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