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 Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:13 pm
pimpchimp525 mind im only 14 so i may be wrong, but all a woman has to do to not have a child is keep her legs closed. its that simple, dont have sex if you you dont want kids. also, if a man was to decide that he didnt want a kid so he wouldnt pay child support he would be in trouble, so why is a woman able to get an un-born child killed (which, in my book, is a lot worse) and its perfectly legal? so, dark, could you please explain that to me? You've got a point. The only surefire way to keep from getting pregnant is to not have sex. I agree with you 100 percent that you make your choice when yoiu have sex. Abstinance doesn't help people who just don't want children, though. I know that when I get married, I won't be stable enough money wise to raise a family yet. It won't keep me from sex, it just means if I get pregnant, I need to find a way to make it work since I don't think killing your offspring should ever be the best solution to a problem. On the child support thing, I completely agree and have met people who are pro-choice who agree as well. But dark's not going to answer you, he isn't here, and continuing this argument is a bit pointless especially since this was mainly a place for information, not debate. I understand that I gave very biased commentary and I think that's what dark wanted me to change, and if I was in any other place than the pro-life guild, I certainly would have kept my comments to myself. I was hoping to n** arguments in the bud by making it clear that though there is certainly another side to the argument, I don't agree with it and therefore arguing about its falacies with me would be pointless. Edit: Andy beat me to it.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:30 pm
Volcabulary:
Child: A human being between the ages of 2 and 12.
...If you're pregnant with a child, hurry and see a doctor, 'cause unless if you're a woolly mammoth, you're quite overdue.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:38 pm
Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, 2002 Edition Main Entry: child Pronunciation: 'chI(&)ld Function: noun Inflected Form: plural chil·dren /'chil-dr&n, -d&rn/ 1 : an unborn or recently born person 2 : a young person especially between infancy and youth —with child : PREGNANT What's your source?
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:12 pm
Ererm. Oh! You got owned! ******** owned! I saw it!
RedvsBlue joking aside though. Every extended dictionary (dosn't even have to be medical) gives you that definition of child that I.Am just posted
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:29 pm
don't forget human and human being.
human being- a living human.
human- a living member of the genus homo, usually sapiens
living- having life
life- having the process of metabolism as well as reactions to the environment, growth, cells and a few others
as you can tell i am paraphrasing. but the actual definitions are quite similar if not exact. look it up. a fetus is, by definition, both a child AND a human being.
fail.
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:03 am
Pyrotechnic Oracle Ererm. Oh! You got owned! ******** owned! I saw it! RedvsBlue joking aside though. Every extended dictionary (dosn't even have to be medical) gives you that definition of child that I.Am just posted I love your sense of humor. heart I remember, once I did that, but I used my own volcabulary, ie. Woogie and Ha-ha-ha-itis and stuff, and it sounded something like.... Ha-ha-ha-ha, you, my dear, suffer from the ha-ha-ha-itis of others ha-ha-ha-ha-ing at you! WOOGIED! Anyways, hold on, lemme look up the source.... BTW, I'm not here to debate, just in case someone feels like attempting to get me kicked out.
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:22 am
Yeah, I was actually just honestly curious because, like Pyro said, every dictionary I've ever looked it up in, and every dictionary that www.dictionary.com shows entries from includes the unborn as children. My favorite entry on "child," though, would have to be Wikipedia's: Wikipedia A child (plural: children) is a young human.
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:31 am
Thats silly though. Bad Wikki. I call all young children of their respective speacies. That cow has a baby or child. That Monkeh has a baby or child. That rancor hos a baby or child and ********..!
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:12 pm
lymelady Yes....A fetus is a child. A human is a child as soon as its got its own dna. We're all children. That's more of a colloquial definition, if anything. Like the useage of child in the phrase "She is with child", ie she is pregnant. The term itself wasn't meant to envelope fetuses in it's literal meaning. That doesn't argue for or against abortion, for the record. I just read above me and realize I'm really behind, heh. I stand by my statement however. Even though it says it in the dictionary, it is totally irrelevant since it's a colloquial definition.
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:14 pm
I know it doesn't argue for or against abortion. It's not supposed to. It's...at the time in debates whenever anyone called it a child they'd get flamed. Massively.
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:17 pm
lymelady I know it doesn't argue for or against abortion. It's not supposed to. It's...at the time in debates whenever anyone called it a child they'd get flamed. Massively. Well. I'd be a little insulted too if someone said I was pro-murdering children. I probably have flamed someone for it before, but I just have a quick temper on the internet which I am learning to control ninja
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:20 pm
I.Am Yeah, I was actually just honestly curious because, like Pyro said, every dictionary I've ever looked it up in, and every dictionary that www.dictionary.com shows entries from includes the unborn as children. My favorite entry on "child," though, would have to be Wikipedia's: Wikipedia A child (plural: children) is a young human. Well, it's funny that on the EXACT same page, it clearly shows otherwise. Quote: Zygote, the point of Conception, fertilization Embryo; in the later stages also called fetus Birth
Child: Infant (baby) (ages 0 - 1.5) Neonate (newborn) in the first month of life Toddler (ages 1.5 - 4) Middle childhood (schoolchild (or schoolboy or schoolgirl)) - Primary school/Elementary school age (ages 4 - 11) prepubescence, a subset of the above (ages 10 - 11, approximately) Preadolescence (preteen, or late childhood) - in the United States, middle school age (ages 11 - 12, approximately. Note overlap with prepubesent stage of middle childhood.) Adolescence and puberty (teenager) (13-19) Young adult (18-25) Adult (starts at age 18-21 or older; exact minimum age may vary) Early adulthood (20-39) Middle age (40-59) Advanced adult/Senior citizen (60+) Death (occurs at various ages depending on person) You should read your sources fully eh?
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:24 pm
The word murder never entered into it. Well it did by the hit and runs, but coming into a place and going "ab orshun ish teh murder!!!!11!!" and running away begs for it.
If someone said I was pro-murder, I'd probably get mad. If someone said I was pro-enslavement, I'd get mad. But it was nothing along those lines, just saying something like, "The child is there because the parents had consentual sex," would get you flamed for using the word child.
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:28 pm
lymelady The word murder never entered into it. Well it did by the hit and runs, but coming into a place and going "ab orshun ish teh murder!!!!11!!" and running away begs for it. If someone said I was pro-murder, I'd probably get mad. If someone said I was pro-enslavement, I'd get mad. But it was nothing along those lines, just saying something like, "The child is there because the parents had consentual sex," would get you flamed for using the word child. Flamming for something like that does show character flaw. Whenever I see it now in a calm useage like that I usually ignore it. Even though it does get on my nerves, I know what they're refering to, and words are just symbols which mean whatever the user wants it to in the end.
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:35 pm
I()Wear()Black Zygote, the point of Conception, fertilization Embryo; in the later stages also called fetus Birth
Child: Infant (baby) (ages 0 - 1.5) Neonate (newborn) in the first month of life Toddler (ages 1.5 - 4) Middle childhood (schoolchild (or schoolboy or schoolgirl)) - Primary school/Elementary school age (ages 4 - 11) prepubescence, a subset of the above (ages 10 - 11, approximately) Preadolescence (preteen, or late childhood) - in the United States, middle school age (ages 11 - 12, approximately. Note overlap with prepubesent stage of middle childhood.) Adolescence and puberty (teenager) (13-19) Young adult (18-25) Adult (starts at age 18-21 or older; exact minimum age may vary) Early adulthood (20-39) Middle age (40-59) Advanced adult/Senior citizen (60+) Death (occurs at various ages depending on person) You should read your sources fully eh? Dictionary.com-child 12 entries found for child. child ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chld) n. pl. chil·dren (chldrn) A person between birth and puberty. An unborn infant; a fetus. An infant; a baby. One who is childish or immature. A son or daughter; an offspring. A member of a tribe; descendant: children of Abraham. An individual regarded as strongly affected by another or by a specified time, place, or circumstance: a child of nature; a child of the Sixties. A product or result of something specified: “Times Square is a child of the 20th century” (Richard F. Shepard). Idiom: with child Pregnant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Middle English, from Old English cild.] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- childless adj. childless·ness n. [Download Now or Buy the Book] Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Child ( P ) Pronunciation Key (chld), Julia. Born 1912. American cookery expert known for her books and her instructional television and video series. [Download Now or Buy the Book] Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. Child, Lydia Maria Francis. 1802-1880. American abolitionist and writer of novels, children's books, and reform works, such as Appeal in Favor of That Class of Americans Called Africans (1833). [Download Now or Buy the Book] Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved. child In addition to the idiom beginning with child, also see second childhood. Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of Idioms by Christine Ammer. Copyright © 1997 by The Christine Ammer 1992 Trust. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. child (chld) n. A person between birth and puberty. An unborn infant; a fetus. An infant; a baby. One who is childish or immature. A son or daughter; an offspring. Source: The American Heritage® Stedman's Medical Dictionary Copyright © 2002, 2001, 1995 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. Main Entry: child Function: noun Inflected Form: plural chil·dren 1 : a son or daughter of any age and usually including one formally adopted —compare ISSUE NOTE: The word child as used in a statute or will is often held to include a stepchild, an illegitimate child, a person for whom one stands in loco parentis, or sometimes a more remote descendant, such as a grandchild. In interpreting the word child as used in a will, the court will try to effectuate the intent of the person who made the will as it can be determined from the language of the will. 2 : a person below an age specified by law : INFANT, MINOR —compare ADULT
NOTE: A person who is below the statutory age but is married will usually be considered an adult.
Source: Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.
Main Entry: child
Pronunciation: 'chI(&)ld
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural chil·dren /'chil-dr&n, -d&rn/
1 : an unborn or recently born person
2 : a young person especially between infancy and youth —with child : PREGNANT
Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.
child
n 1: a young person of either sex; "she writes books for children"; "they're just kids"; "`tiddler' is a British term for youngsters" [syn: kid, youngster, minor, shaver, nipper, small fry, tiddler, tike, tyke, fry, nestling] 2: a human offspring (son or daughter) of any age; "they had three children"; "they were able to send their kids to college" [syn: kid] [ant: parent] 3: an immature childish person; "he remained a child in practical matters as long as he lived"; "stop being a baby!" [syn: baby] 4: a member of a clan or tribe; "the children of Israel"
Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University
child
daughter
Source: The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, © 1993-2005 Denis Howe
child
This word has considerable latitude of meaning in Scripture. Thus Joseph is
called a child at the time when he was probably about sixteen years of age
(Gen. 37:3); and Benjamin is so called when he was above thirty years (44:20).
Solomon called himself a little child when he came to the kingdom (1 Kings
3:7). The descendants of a man, however remote, are called his children; as,
"the children of Edom," "the children of Moab," "the children of Israel." In
the earliest times mothers did not wean their children till they were from
thirty months to three years old; and the day on which they were weaned was
kept as a festival day (Gen. 21:8; Ex. 2:7, 9; 1 Sam. 1:22-24; Matt. 21:16). At
the age of five, children began to learn the arts and duties of life under the
care of their fathers (Deut. 6:20-25; 11:19). To have a numerous family was
regarded as a mark of divine favour (Gen. 11:30; 30:1; 1 Sam. 2:5; 2 Sam. 6:23;
Ps. 127:3; 128:3). Figuratively the name is used for those who are ignorant or
narrow-minded (Matt. 11:16; Luke 7:32; 1 Cor. 13:11). "When I was a child, I
spake as a child." "Brethren, be not children in understanding" (1 Cor. 14:20).
"That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro" (Eph. 4:14).
Children are also spoken of as representing simplicity and humility (Matt.
19:13-15; Mark 10:13-16; Luke 18:15-17). Believers are "children of light"
(Luke 16:8; 1 Thess. 5:5) and "children of obedience" (1 Pet. 1:14).
Source: Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary
child
CHILD: in Acronym Finder
Source: Acronym Finder, © 1988-2004 Mountain Data Systems
child
child: in CancerWEB's On-line Medical Dictionary
Source: On-line Medical Dictionary, © 1997-98 Academic Medical Publishing & CancerWEB
Perhaps you should follow your own advice.
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