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 Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:17 pm
The best definition I can come up with is "the alteration of present or future circumstances using methods not currently recognized by science."
The discussion of sorting different kinds of magic by color brings up an interesting point about cultural associations. The Yin-Yang symbol comes out of eastern culture, so comparing it to a color/magic system that has an obvious western basis is kind of like comparing apples and oranges. After all, different colors have different symbolic meaning to different groups of people. Even within the same culture, interpretations can conflict. For example, in my experience the color yellow can be used to represent joy or cowardice. Another thought: the Yin-Yang symbol is meant to show the union of opposites. I don't think the colors are as important as the juxtaposition and intertwining of two unlike things. I may be wrong. Eastern philosophy isn't my strong suit. sweatdrop
In terms of Christianity, I think I can explain the difference between magic and miracles/prayer a bit. Prayer is a request for intercession by God, but it's up to God whether to grant said intercession. A miracle might be a manifestation of this intercession. Magic functions by the users will; prayers are answered (or not) by God's will. In some Christian groups, using magic to alter things may be seen as interfering in God's designs. It's not nice or smart to go stepping on a deity's toes. That's my take on it, at least.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:16 pm
Magick to me is everything... The simple act of waking up in the morning, seeing the sunrise, the birth of a child, sitting and watching the waves at the ocean, sure, all these can be "explained" by scientific means, but heck, where is the romance in that? The act of casting a spell is not in itself magick, it is Performing magick - The use of your will and intent to achieve your desired results. all religions perform magick, be they pagan, muslim, buddist or christian. The christian simply calls his magick prayer - going down on his knees and asking for divine intervention, in essence he/she is casting a spell.
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Violet Song jat Shariff Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:55 pm
Why do all of those things have to be "romantic" though? Why can't they just be what they are?
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:15 pm
To me magic is everything. The fact that there is "something" instead of "nothing" is magic 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:06 am
Violet Song jat Shariff Why do all of those things have to be "romantic" though? Why can't they just be what they are? I live in south africa.. if i just let things "be what they are" i would no longer be counted among the living. I sadly am reaping the benefits of seeds sown by my forefathers (apartheid) and i need to believe in magic and romance. for me, there would be no meaning to life without it, so i see a sunrise as romantic, a childbirth as magical. but hey, maybe thats just me. i cannot give up hope, i still have the need to believe that there is still good in my lil corner of the world. smile
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:56 am
Magick, to me, is the science and art of causing change in conformity with will. (As defined by Aleister Crowley.)
I believe this is something that manifests itself from within and everyone has this ability; Some use it innately without realizing, some never discover it, and some yearn to make this ability fearsome.
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:21 pm
Magick to me is all things great and small. It is the air we breathe..the steps we take...each movement me make. Magick means being able to think and learn. Understand and ask the questions needed asking. Magick is in the tree's and the butterfly wings. We may not see it but we can feel it all around us. It is in the breeze that touches us.. and the smell in the air. Magick is everything.
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