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chichirismuse

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:49 pm


*marches around with her SUPPORT RAOUL sign*
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:31 am


The Red Roze
What makes Raoul a fop? Nothing, as far as I know. He isn't a fop. People just call him one, for some reason....I wonder whose idea it was to start calling him a fop *ponders*


Whoever it was, they sure as hell don't know what kind of pandemonium they started.

Bleeding Art

Obsessive Kitten


-Lasciate Ogni Speranza-

PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:07 pm


|You have just been punjabbed|

Here's a thought: Stop saying Christine should have done this or that, and supporting one side and attacking the other. Gaston Leroux did not set to write about our phantasmic little love triangle just to have random phangirls mangle his characters into things they aren't.

Enjoy the storyline, people. That's the purpose of the Phantom's story, to inform and entertain.

|Have a nice day!|
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:29 pm


Amen to that. The story is fine the way it is.

PhantomoftheFox


Thorn Venatrix

PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:52 pm


Precisely.

If you want something to be different...that's what fanfic is for.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:02 am


Raoul is described as a fop because he cries every two chapters.

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PhantomoftheFox

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:22 pm


1. So does Erik.
2. Being overemotional still has nothing to do with being a fop.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:53 pm


Raoul's brain is being screwed up because a girl that he's loved since childhood has turned into a totally different person because of an influence in her life that Raoul has absolutely no control over.

Lots of people cry about love. Erik cried about love. I see no one calling him a fop because he cried.

-Lasciate Ogni Speranza-


Bleeding Art

Obsessive Kitten

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:58 pm


`~[Christine--Daae]~`
Raoul is described as a fop because he cries every two chapters.


And Erik doesn't? The man fell to his knees and kissed Christine's skirts as he sobbed, being a pitiful whiny baby.

Also, if you look at any other book of the era or older, I can guarantee a tough guy in the book cries. Hell, look at Frankenstein's monster. Big scary thing gets emotional!
PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:28 pm


Ok, all Phans from this thread, listen! When I said that I wasn't the Phan I am now. I realize that all you've said is true, and I now think that Raoul was simply a man tortured by love, as was Erik. Erik, however, was tortured by the human race along with it, so he does have better reason to cry for love. Raoul still can though, 'tis not like it's illegal for him to do so.

Who is Puffer Fish


Bleeding Art

Obsessive Kitten

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:30 am


`~[Christine--Daae]~`
Ok, all Phans from this thread, listen! When I said that I wasn't the Phan I am now. I realize that all you've said is true, and I now think that Raoul was simply a man tortured by love, as was Erik. Erik, however, was tortured by the human race along with it, so he does have better reason to cry for love. Raoul still can though, 'tis not like it's illegal for him to do so.


Wait, so you're saying because Erik's ugly he has a better excuse for crying?

Nonononono. If we want to get into an emo fight, it would be a tie. Erik was ugly and his parents hated him. Raoul's mother died in giving birth to him (ultimate guilt trip) and his father died when he was young, possibly before he could remember him well. Erik was hated, Raoul lived through self-hate for killing his mother.

Not to be mean, but they're equals.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:34 pm


Utakan
`~[Christine--Daae]~`
Ok, all Phans from this thread, listen! When I said that I wasn't the Phan I am now. I realize that all you've said is true, and I now think that Raoul was simply a man tortured by love, as was Erik. Erik, however, was tortured by the human race along with it, so he does have better reason to cry for love. Raoul still can though, 'tis not like it's illegal for him to do so.


Wait, so you're saying because Erik's ugly he has a better excuse for crying?

Nonononono. If we want to get into an emo fight, it would be a tie. Erik was ugly and his parents hated him. Raoul's mother died in giving birth to him (ultimate guilt trip) and his father died when he was young, possibly before he could remember him well. Erik was hated, Raoul lived through self-hate for killing his mother.

Not to be mean, but they're equals.


yes, yes! I know that! That's what I was trying to get at! My only point was that they both have reason to cry.

Who is Puffer Fish


-Lasciate Ogni Speranza-

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:13 pm


Don't take it personally, dear. This subject is an extremely touchy subject in even the friendliest of Phan Guilds. There needs to be open minds towards all the characters of PotO (yes, even though Carlotta is despised, we can be civil to wards here- rarely)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:16 pm


welcometomyhell
Don't take it personally, dear. This subject is an extremely touchy subject in even the friendliest of Phan Guilds. There needs to be open minds towards all the characters of PotO (yes, even though Carlotta is despised, we can be civil to wards here- rarely)


Honestly, I have no prefrence to any characters except Erik and Christine at this point. (and as for Carlotta, the only one I dislike is the OLC, she sings about 3 octaves higher than ALW Carlotta.)

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Bleeding Art

Obsessive Kitten

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:57 pm


I like both men equally, but I have minor problems with the whole "well Raoul cries a lot" thing. The subject comes up enough outside the guild that I can get touchy with anyone on it.
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