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Read the post, and then answer, would you choose to be gay?:
Yes
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No
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I dunno...
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The Eighth House

PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 1:52 pm


Leyndrasha
Don't flame me, just hear me out.

In a way, I did choose to be a lesbian, but only by virtue of the word.

Technically, I could live my life as a straight woman. I could marry and have children and be socially acceptable (although I must say, the gay community is making considerable headway with social acceptance).

I could choose to deny myself. I chose to be true to my feelings. I choose not to deny who I'm attracted to. The label, the lifestyle, these were things I accepted to feel true to who I am.

For the sake of arguing with me, you may say "omg but denying yourself isn't a choice you must be true to yourself!" No, you don't. I think we don't have to hide our attractions anymore, but we most certainly could. It was too dangerous for us in the past, as someone previously stated, to be gay.

<3


That's totaly true. I could choose to deny myself, we all could(I mean people who arn't straight), and it's our choice if we want to hold ourseves back or not. Once you cross that line though, you're not going to be "straight" again.

In some places(in the past) it was sometimes a trend to be gay, but in general few were accepting. Especialy with the religion. Even today it can still be dangerous, as in other people who differ in other ways.
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2005 6:06 pm


ForgottenExistence
I dont think any of us want to be defined firstly by our sexuality... however that is the world we live in today. We cannot choose what other's will label us as, and I think it's a bad idea to not have gay pride just because you dont want to be seen first and foremost as a lesbian or gay man.
I wish I didn't have to look at my sexuality as a trait to be proud of because I know I'd feel offended if a heterosexual expressed "straight pride", though the implications would be very different. I sometimes consider the strong sense of Latino pride at my school, my classmates sewing flags to their shirts and writing in the bathrooms "'insert Spanish country here' sucks". I instinctively dislike the whole situation. *ahem* That was just an anecdote, I wasn't making a point. Pride in your nationality and pride to encourage civil rights are two issues entirely.

ForgottenExistence
We are in the middle of our equality movement... it is so important that we are all out there showing our pride, marching... You dont have to make it your whole life, thats for the activists, but every day when you come home to your girlfriend... being a lesbian IS your life... and I'm sure (or I hope) its just as important a piece of you as is being an artist and a musician.

It is so important that we are out, even if it means just a little rainbow sticker on your car, because the more people riding around with them on their car, the more people realize that gays are everywhere... not just in drag shows on the Vegas strip and at construction sites. Could you imagine if every gay person in America had a rainbow sticker on the back of their car in the center of the window... could you imagine the impact that would have if a straight person was driving down the street and looked around and saw five cars around him with those stickers...? People are still having to realize that we're everywhere, and that we are a huge part of the population, that we are your doctors and musicians and teachers and chefs...
I never thought of that. Granted, it could be because I'm sixteen and inexperienced in life (also, I certainly can't be sticking pride stickers on my parents' car) but there's so much truth in what you say. If more gays, activists or no, would contribute something that small, we could make so much progress.

ForgottenExistence
No, I dont want to be defined as a lesbian... but I'm not going to pretend like its not there... I join my fellow gays at gay parades... I vote, and for the love of all that is rainbow if you do nothing else, PLEASE vote or these anti gay legislations will keep passing. But I mean... on the back of my car I have rugby stickers, theatre stickers, punk band stickers... its only fitting that I have gay stickers amongst that... With every gay sticker thats displayed, and every gay t-shirt thats worn we get louder...

You dont have to make your whole life about being gay... but just have some gay pride... I know it doesnt seem important but it is... and people will define you by your sexuality, but that will change... thats why its important that you show your pride now... now is the time, because later it wont matter anymore that your gay... and people who even see your rainbow stickers, wont see you as a lesbian artist and musician but a musican and artist who is also a lesbian.
crying That was beautiful. However. I can't seem to shake the discomfort I feel wearing pride pins and rainbow paraphernalia. It makes me feel like everyone thinks I'm trying to pick up girls (don't laugh, I'm serious! xd ) Instead, I speak publicly, though not formally, to my peers about being gay. I deny nothing, I address all questions. I had hoped that I would make them believe that not all gays are flaming agenda-pushers in politically-correct glory, and maybe shock them a bit since I apparently "don't look gay". Of course I don't fit their outlandish stereotypes, few of us do.

Rejoice, for I am tired of typing. In summary, I liked your activist preachings.

Leyndrasha


Rare_HunterMarik

PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 1:17 pm


KaGe_Khoai
Would I choose to be straight or gay? hmm....
I wish I was a gay guy. I think gay guys are hot. If i was a guy i'd be gay lol. I often dream about being gay aka for girls "lesbian". But im bisexual. which i don't have a problem with. Personally, I rather be straight. It's easier for your parents to think " oh my baby girl is going to marry a guy when she gets older. and have beautiful children and a loving husband". instead of breaking their dream and saying " mom, im bisexual, or gay"


i just wanted 2 let u know that i love the pic
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:15 pm


I'd be gay, why the hell not? I've dealt with descrimination quite a few times already (I'm black..) and a few more times won't kill me, I'm stronger now. And right now I'm bi, so I'm enjoying the best of both worlds, but seriously, I'd be gay. wink

X Soiree X


xAsh-chanx

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:49 am


i am not at all happy with the choices that have been made in the US concerning gay/bi/ and lesbian rights, but that doesn't mean i'm going to go straight because of it.
if you're really gay, then you need to accept that these type of things happen.
women were treated poorly in history, and are still now, although not as bad. if i was alive when women were treated badly, i wouldn't want to be a guy because of it.
i remember, when i tried to be straight. i lasted about a week.it was a stupid thing for me to do.i i just can't change who i am. because someone doesn't like it.

my point is: if you can't accept yourself for who you are, how can you accept others?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:00 pm


Nope. I love women too much to ever go completely gay.

Grapalicious


Wyllow_and_Muse

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:06 pm


Though I am bi, I have to explain this.

Yes, not because I like women, but for the reason that if I was gay I would be able to help this damned country understand, it maybe futile when you try this alone, but a large group makes a lot of noise.

That, and I'm all about tollernace.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:45 pm


ok at this point in my life i would want to be straight because im in high school and i have seen students tease and beat up openly gay students and then teachers just look the other way but im not im bi and dating the love of my life even if we can't tell every one yet but there is one situation that i can think of that i want to share with u when i told a homophobic friend of mine that i am bi
Her sad my name) you know that gay guys are wusses right? why would you want to be that
Me: ok (her name) one that isnt true in fact gay people who are out are some of the bravest people i know because they tell people who they are at the risk of being publicly humiliated, discriminated, teased, or even beat up for what they are and yet they are still brave enough to do it.
and two just shut up

she didnt speak for along time and just changed the subject

Demon_Haru


ForgottenExistence

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:24 pm


xAsh-chanx
i am not at all happy with the choices that have been made in the US concerning gay/bi/ and lesbian rights, but that doesn't mean i'm going to go straight because of it.
if you're really gay, then you need to accept that these type of things happen.
women were treated poorly in history, and are still now, although not as bad. if i was alive when women were treated badly, i wouldn't want to be a guy because of it.
i remember, when i tried to be straight. i lasted about a week.it was a stupid thing for me to do.i i just can't change who i am. because someone doesn't like it.

my point is: if you can't accept yourself for who you are, how can you accept others?

You're taking it too literally... I would never try to be straight again (thats not the question)... its strictly hypothetical... just because we wish we had been straight instead of gay, doesnt mean we dont accept what we are, I came out years ago, and I accepted it with no problem... I'm happy, but being gay is just another complication... I wish being gay was as simple as being straight... i.e. I wish I coulda just been straight so, on top of everything else going on in my life, I didn't have to deal with the gov't (and lots of other people) shaking their finger at me, and not having the same rights as straight people. I'm definitely not gonna go and try to be straight again because of it, screw that...

I think if you were a woman living back in oppression, you'd probably think a lot differently (a lot less optimistically) I'm sure 99% of women who lived back then wished they had been born men... if not all of them... but that was a LOT different than what we're dealing with now, so... moving on.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:22 pm


i would choose to be bi.. i mean then you aren't discriminatory towards men or women... you become an equal opportunity lover
i love being bi... i didn't choose it that's just how i think and i like being bi

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VersaceAngel

PostPosted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:06 pm


I don't care about all the negativity that surrounds being gay. I enjoy being gay. I am not a coward. I will face the problems head on. I will marry who I want. And my parents and family support me. it's all good. xd
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:36 am


I would choose to be straight...

But I'm gay and there's nothing changing that, so I'll just be happy and satisfied with who I am! heart

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:15 am


Karmi
i would choose to be bi.. i mean then you aren't discriminatory towards men or women... you become an equal opportunity lover
i love being bi... i didn't choose it that's just how i think and i like being bi


i <3 yaoi and yuri so being bi and dateing a bi male is a lot of fun cuz he like yuri and yaoi too so i let him kiss boys as long as i can kiss girls... and we take pictures lol
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:33 pm


ForgottenExistence
xAsh-chanx
i am not at all happy with the choices that have been made in the US concerning gay/bi/ and lesbian rights, but that doesn't mean i'm going to go straight because of it.
if you're really gay, then you need to accept that these type of things happen.
women were treated poorly in history, and are still now, although not as bad. if i was alive when women were treated badly, i wouldn't want to be a guy because of it.
i remember, when i tried to be straight. i lasted about a week.it was a stupid thing for me to do.i i just can't change who i am. because someone doesn't like it.

my point is: if you can't accept yourself for who you are, how can you accept others?

You're taking it too literally... I would never try to be straight again (thats not the question)... its strictly hypothetical... just because we wish we had been straight instead of gay, doesnt mean we dont accept what we are, I came out years ago, and I accepted it with no problem... I'm happy, but being gay is just another complication... I wish being gay was as simple as being straight... i.e. I wish I coulda just been straight so, on top of everything else going on in my life, I didn't have to deal with the gov't (and lots of other people) shaking their finger at me, and not having the same rights as straight people. I'm definitely not gonna go and try to be straight again because of it, screw that...

I think if you were a woman living back in oppression, you'd probably think a lot differently (a lot less optimistically) I'm sure 99% of women who lived back then wished they had been born men... if not all of them... but that was a LOT different than what we're dealing with now, so... moving on.


I apoligize, i misunderstood you completely. It sounded like you WEREN'T proud of your sexuality. I agree that it was easier to be gay, as easy as it is to be straight. Hopefully some day it will be. crying

xAsh-chanx


VersaceAngel

PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:00 pm


YES! Being gay is a gift. heart
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