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 Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:45 pm
Pandora Box Individual & Family life is mostly about development of the individual (as in early life, personality, friendships, etc) and then, as the name implies, the family. There was this huge spiel on "courtship" and marriage. Really sexist and heterosexist, of course. But most IFL textboks have some scare tactics concerning sex. Well, if I even do get that book, one thing can be sure: By the end of the week, it'll be either me or the teacher who will be out of that school for good. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:03 pm
Luna Eclipse That last part reminds of the gym teacher in Mean Girls, who teaches the students, "if you have sex, you'll get Chlamydia (sp?)...AND DIE!!!!" Thankfully, I have no horror stories to share about my health class back in high school. Everything was presented factually and all topics were covered, including homosexuality, STDs, and premarital sex. We were taught how to put on a condom, how to identify the symptoms of an std, facts about abortions, etc. I still remember the very first day of health class. As soon as everyone was seated, the teacher wrote on the board the words, "v****a", "breasts", "p***s", "masturbation" and "sex". We were then told to get up and write as many slang words as we could think of for each word. Everyone looked perplexed; we couldn't believe we were actually being told to do something that would normally get us in trouble. So finally, yours truly, took the initiative and wrote "tits". Everyone followed suit, till the entire board was covered in pussies, dicks, headlights, knockers, choking the chicken, knocking boots, one-eyed willy, and various other naughty words. This part of the lesson was used to demystify sexuality and make it seem real, I suppose. I however, will forever remember it as the BEST CLASS EVER. blaugh
arrow When talking about sex and break-ups, said "Because you're not married, [break-ups] hurt."
arrow Presented a slide that said sex inside of marriage "feels good," but sex outside of marriage "destroys your life."
arrow People who habitually masturbate (meaning more than "out of curiousity") have "problems": one, they are "selfish, selfish, selfish, selfish, selfish" because "sex was made for two people," two, masturbation "messes up marriages," and three, those who masturbate "become perverted thinkers," and here he used Ted Bundy as an example.
arrow Abortions are extremely physically painful; quoted a letter from a girl and said it was the "most painful thing she ever experienced," (as well as "she killed her baby").
arrow You can get HIV from toilet seats.
arrow The whole thing was very subtley religious/moralistic, with him using words/phrases like "most precious gift," "purity," etc. to describe virginity, and "previous," repeatedly telling girls to change the way they dress, calling boys "lying horndogs," implying that girls only have sex to please someone, advocating "secondary virginity" (which would "make you a better person"), etc.
Among many, many other things. I e-mailed him after the program, asking him about some of the things he said, and as expected, he replied with things that weren't relevant to what I was saying and generally avoided the actual issues.Oxymoronic Username Well, if I even do get that book, one thing can be sure: By the end of the week, it'll be either me or the teacher who will be out of that school for good.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:13 am
Hehe. Finally actually watched the episode!
First: Their acting improves as the show ages. Cassie is one of those girls who has dimples when she cries. It's not that uncommon in teenage actresses.
Second: This was a powerful and RLY RLY GUD EPY. But I want to pour goat's blood on the ignorant ******** who parade the-N Message Boards.
Gaia so pwns them.
Third: I was impressed at how they got all of the facts right. When asked, the lady said that everybody had different reactions to it. I expected: "Well, most patients have suffered from severe emotional trauma. Are you sure you want to do this?"
So I'm glad that there were actual facts.
Fourth: I liked Emma's opinion on the matter. Though she felt it was wrong, she believed in choice.
Fifth: Major hints to Craig's possessive-ness.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:02 pm
Forgotten Purity Hehe. Finally actually watched the episode! First: Their acting improves as the show ages. Cassie is one of those girls who has dimples when she cries. It's not that uncommon in teenage actresses. Second: This was a powerful and RLY RLY GUD EPY. But I want to pour goat's blood on the ignorant ******** who parade the-N Message Boards. Gaia so pwns them. Third: I was impressed at how they got all of the facts right. When asked, the lady said that everybody had different reactions to it. I expected: "Well, most patients have suffered from severe emotional trauma. Are you sure you want to do this?" So I'm glad that there were actual facts. Fourth: I liked Emma's opinion on the matter. Though she felt it was wrong, she believed in choice. Fifth: Major hints to Craig's possessive-ness. Ms. Steele looks like she's laughing when she's supposed to be crying... Manny's been crying a lot lately. But yeah, the show and acting DOES get better as the years go by. Yeah, I was impressed by what the lady at the clinic said... I was also impressed by how supportive Manny's mother is. Poor girl thought that she'd be sent to a Philipino convent. Craig wanted it for purely selfish reasons. He thought that they'd be going off to Happy La-La Land and that he'd have the family that he's always wanted... And yes, there are major hints at his possessiveness, and how much his selfish, self-centred nature contribute to that.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:16 pm
It pisses me off indeed in books and on TV when there is a character who is either having sex with everything she sees or just all-around irresponsible about sex and then gets pregnant. Then when she tells the father, she says something like "I was thinking about getting an abortion..." and the father says something along the lines of "NO YOU CAN'T GET AN ABORTION IT'S THE WORK OF THE DEVIL BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" and she ends up not getting an abortion and it's a big life lesson about 'taking responsibility' and not having premarital sex and everyone comends her on her desicion and if she has the kid, the father ends up not taking care of the kid at all but if she gives it up for adoption the father simply walks off into the sunset never to be seen again.
That's my experience with abortion in various media. But I do have more respect for the storyline in which the girl gets pregnant and everyone is pressuring her to have an abortion but she wants to keep the baby and she does. Because, I mean, that's what pro-choice is all about. Making the desicion for yourself.
I got lucky with sex ed the first year I actually had it, because my teacher was gay. He was a lot more tolerant than what you guys are talking about.
My STD education has pretty much been a silly video with people dressed up in what looked like lobster costumes as the AIDS virus and people dressed in white as big T's as helper T cells. And this thing we did where we were supposed to walk around and shake hands with people only with different parameters and get the signature of people who you shook hands with. One guy had to wear a rubber glove, and I could only shake hands with this one other guy for example. Then at the end it was revealed that whoever we shook hands with, we had sex with (metaphorically of course xp ). If you had a certain person's signature, you got HIV. I didn't because apparently the guy I was shaking hands with was meant to be my significant other and he did not have HIV, and neither did the guy who wore a rubber glove used protection. It made a lot more sense than "Don't have sex until you're married OR ELSE."
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:54 pm
Oxymoronic Username Pandora Box Individual & Family life is mostly about development of the individual (as in early life, personality, friendships, etc) and then, as the name implies, the family. There was this huge spiel on "courtship" and marriage. Really sexist and heterosexist, of course. But most IFL textboks have some scare tactics concerning sex. Well, if I even do get that book, one thing can be sure: By the end of the week, it'll be either me or the teacher who will be out of that school for good. 3nodding I don't get "courtship," because now mostly you just go out with someone, and if the relationship progresses enough you propose to them or they propose to you. Courtship only exists with people who refuse dating for stupid(usually religious) reasons now, otherwise it's dead.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:51 pm
Captain_Theoretical It pisses me off indeed in books and on TV when there is a character who is either having sex with everything she sees or just all-around irresponsible about sex and then gets pregnant. Then when she tells the father, she says something like "I was thinking about getting an abortion..." and the father says something along the lines of "NO YOU CAN'T GET AN ABORTION IT'S THE WORK OF THE DEVIL BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" and she ends up not getting an abortion and it's a big life lesson about 'taking responsibility' and not having premarital sex and everyone comends her on her desicion and if she has the kid, the father ends up not taking care of the kid at all but if she gives it up for adoption the father simply walks off into the sunset never to be seen again. That's my experience with abortion in various media. But I do have more respect for the storyline in which the girl gets pregnant and everyone is pressuring her to have an abortion but she wants to keep the baby and she does. Because, I mean, that's what pro-choice is all about. Making the desicion for yourself. I got lucky with sex ed the first year I actually had it, because my teacher was gay. He was a lot more tolerant than what you guys are talking about. My STD education has pretty much been a silly video with people dressed up in what looked like lobster costumes as the AIDS virus and people dressed in white as big T's as helper T cells. And this thing we did where we were supposed to walk around and shake hands with people only with different parameters and get the signature of people who you shook hands with. One guy had to wear a rubber glove, and I could only shake hands with this one other guy for example. Then at the end it was revealed that whoever we shook hands with, we had sex with (metaphorically of course xp ). If you had a certain person's signature, you got HIV. I didn't because apparently the guy I was shaking hands with was meant to be my significant other and he did not have HIV, and neither did the guy who wore a rubber glove used protection. It made a lot more sense than "Don't have sex until you're married OR ELSE." Y'know what we did? Threw paper airplanes. Some people threw theirs back and forth, just between two people. Some between three, and so on. I was promiscuous sex lady, and whoever got my plane had to write an STD on it. I got the clap 5-6 times, AIDS, and I think I got HPV. I shoulda kept my plane...
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:53 pm
Deformography Captain_Theoretical It pisses me off indeed in books and on TV when there is a character who is either having sex with everything she sees or just all-around irresponsible about sex and then gets pregnant. Then when she tells the father, she says something like "I was thinking about getting an abortion..." and the father says something along the lines of "NO YOU CAN'T GET AN ABORTION IT'S THE WORK OF THE DEVIL BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" and she ends up not getting an abortion and it's a big life lesson about 'taking responsibility' and not having premarital sex and everyone comends her on her desicion and if she has the kid, the father ends up not taking care of the kid at all but if she gives it up for adoption the father simply walks off into the sunset never to be seen again. That's my experience with abortion in various media. But I do have more respect for the storyline in which the girl gets pregnant and everyone is pressuring her to have an abortion but she wants to keep the baby and she does. Because, I mean, that's what pro-choice is all about. Making the desicion for yourself. I got lucky with sex ed the first year I actually had it, because my teacher was gay. He was a lot more tolerant than what you guys are talking about. My STD education has pretty much been a silly video with people dressed up in what looked like lobster costumes as the AIDS virus and people dressed in white as big T's as helper T cells. And this thing we did where we were supposed to walk around and shake hands with people only with different parameters and get the signature of people who you shook hands with. One guy had to wear a rubber glove, and I could only shake hands with this one other guy for example. Then at the end it was revealed that whoever we shook hands with, we had sex with (metaphorically of course xp ). If you had a certain person's signature, you got HIV. I didn't because apparently the guy I was shaking hands with was meant to be my significant other and he did not have HIV, and neither did the guy who wore a rubber glove used protection. It made a lot more sense than "Don't have sex until you're married OR ELSE." Y'know what we did? Threw paper airplanes. Some people threw theirs back and forth, just between two people. Some between three, and so on. I was promiscuous sex lady, and whoever got my plane had to write an STD on it. I got the clap 5-6 times, AIDS, and I think I got HPV. I shoulda kept my plane... I seriously hope that they taught you that HPV can be transferred simply through towel sharing. And what the hell is the clap? I never learned about that x.o
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:34 pm
Lord Setar Deformography Captain_Theoretical It pisses me off indeed in books and on TV when there is a character who is either having sex with everything she sees or just all-around irresponsible about sex and then gets pregnant. Then when she tells the father, she says something like "I was thinking about getting an abortion..." and the father says something along the lines of "NO YOU CAN'T GET AN ABORTION IT'S THE WORK OF THE DEVIL BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" and she ends up not getting an abortion and it's a big life lesson about 'taking responsibility' and not having premarital sex and everyone comends her on her desicion and if she has the kid, the father ends up not taking care of the kid at all but if she gives it up for adoption the father simply walks off into the sunset never to be seen again. That's my experience with abortion in various media. But I do have more respect for the storyline in which the girl gets pregnant and everyone is pressuring her to have an abortion but she wants to keep the baby and she does. Because, I mean, that's what pro-choice is all about. Making the desicion for yourself. I got lucky with sex ed the first year I actually had it, because my teacher was gay. He was a lot more tolerant than what you guys are talking about. My STD education has pretty much been a silly video with people dressed up in what looked like lobster costumes as the AIDS virus and people dressed in white as big T's as helper T cells. And this thing we did where we were supposed to walk around and shake hands with people only with different parameters and get the signature of people who you shook hands with. One guy had to wear a rubber glove, and I could only shake hands with this one other guy for example. Then at the end it was revealed that whoever we shook hands with, we had sex with (metaphorically of course xp ). If you had a certain person's signature, you got HIV. I didn't because apparently the guy I was shaking hands with was meant to be my significant other and he did not have HIV, and neither did the guy who wore a rubber glove used protection. It made a lot more sense than "Don't have sex until you're married OR ELSE." Y'know what we did? Threw paper airplanes. Some people threw theirs back and forth, just between two people. Some between three, and so on. I was promiscuous sex lady, and whoever got my plane had to write an STD on it. I got the clap 5-6 times, AIDS, and I think I got HPV. I shoulda kept my plane... I seriously hope that they taught you that HPV can be transferred simply through towel sharing. And what the hell is the clap? I never learned about that x.o You should see how pissed my doctor gets about how they don't teach as much about HPV. Now, you've got posters all over the place... There's even one in the locker room at my gym. The Clap= slang for gonorrea
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:40 pm
Pandora Box I was a bit too worried to do something extreme in the classes, but I let them knew what I think in subtle ways -- in projects, worksheets, discussions, etc. Although, looking back, I wish I had been a bit more outspoken. Hm. I could do that. Kind of like how I let my Honors English teacher know I enjoy political discussions. And I kick a** at them
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:53 am
Oh wow! I haven't seen it yet, but I love Degrassi. I hope I catch it sometime.
It's cool that they showed Liberty give her kid up for adoption, and Manny have an abortion. It shows that different people need different options. Of course, if they were educated on birth control maybe it could be avoided. wink
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:08 pm
It's about time. How contradicting that a real-life show like that trying to teach young people life values and lessons isn't allowed to air an episode about something like abortion. I've never seen the show myself (I'm trying to get around to it), but wasn't there an episode about rape? You'd think that would be more controversial.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:49 pm
vivaluna Oh wow! I haven't seen it yet, but I love Degrassi. I hope I catch it sometime. It's cool that they showed Liberty give her kid up for adoption, and Manny have an abortion. It shows that different people need different options. Of course, if they were educated on birth control maybe it could be avoided. wink Well, Liberty got pregnant because JT just had to use an oversized condom, and Manny couldn't remember if she and Craig had used protection.
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:03 pm
Koto Kokopelli It's about time. How contradicting that a real-life show like that trying to teach young people life values and lessons isn't allowed to air an episode about something like abortion. I've never seen the show myself (I'm trying to get around to it), but wasn't there an episode about rape? You'd think that would be more controversial. There was an eposode where a girl got raped, yes. There was another when a girl took ectasy (sp?). There was one when a boy got drunk. He was around 14. All of those were shown with no problem. Off topic, but is you username the same Kokopelli I'm thinking of? whee
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:10 pm
And you have to remember, the father's also bipolar. And the friend who is opposed to her choice, her mother was the same age when she had her, and her father jumped off a bridge... [is that right? I know he like... was on Acid or something...] ...she's just worried she would have been aborted... I don't like Emma though... whee . But I don't like Manny either... but I liked how they finally showed that episode. But it kills me how nearly 20 years ago they nad no problem showing teen pregnancy but they ban abortion. rolleyes . It's kind of like the way they put sexual content with high ratings and violence with lower ratings... and gay sex is an automatic R... but I digress... it's a good thing they finally aired that episode.
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