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 Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:39 pm
PoppyDadswell darkshadowofthegoths PoppyDadswell Halloween is an irish custom and everyone here could not be irish,so feck off and find your own traditional customs. rofl actually, (im half irish so just cool your jets before you think about screaming at me), Halloween isnt really anyone's holiday anymore. Since it's real name, Samhain fell out of use a long time ago christains used the term halloween as a way to scare their children into obedience. the only reason we have samhain now'days, is to get candy and sweets. theres no real purpose to it anymore. and by the way, for all of you who are christain, halloween isnt a christain holiday, it was a pagan holiday long before your kind stole it. Just as most of your customs in "church" are pagan. Communion for example. how can communion be pagan?please-do enlighten me about this theory. ps-halloween is used to bright up a traditionally depressing time of the year,not to scare kiddies,sicko. because the roman catholics when they went north to slaughter the ostro and visigtohs stole their religious ways, which were pagan. communion, kneeling at the alter to recieve communion, many of the fabels told to the children in "sunday school" at christain churches are pagan. the christains simply modified them. for example. Moses. he never, if he existed, parted a sea. that was odin. he parted a sea so his people coudl flee from their persuers, then closed it on them after his people we're safe. when he died, he became the lord of the Esir. Esir is the oceans. naturally when catholicism spread to eruope so did their stolen religious ways. then christianity popped up. Paganism was around far before any other religion was. although paganism isnt just one religion to say the least. halloween was never deperessing in teh first place. it was christinas and catholica from england(no offense to any in here, im talkign about your ancestors) who made it deperessing witht eh witch hunts and what not. they killed hundreds of people who were doing nothgin wrong in their religions; whatever they migth have been. Driuidism, wiccan, astru. whatever they were, they did nothgin wrong. the witch hutns and trials which disgraced and tainted my ancestors was unessasary and perhaps you need to look into reading about your own history, missy!!! and also. tinkys. MORE POWER TO YOU!!! YOU happen to be one with sense in this topic!!
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:45 pm
junkpile The Great Sabbats of Wicca are Imbolc=Feb2nd, Ostara=Spring Equinox, Beltain=May1st, Midsummer Eve=Summer Solstice, Lughnasadh=Aug1st, Mabon=Autumn Equinox, Samhian=OCTOBER 31..... scream gonk scream , YULE=DECEMBER21.... scream gonk scream . most of the dates vary around the lunar month and the solar year. This has been known scince before the burning times.....(look it up) also Wicca arguably predates Christianity. these Great Sabbats are Celebrations and Hollidays for the different seasons that glorify the Lord and Lady. Samhain was turned into Halloween by the Roman Catholic Church to make it more appealing to the ("Native Heathens"....our ancestors and founding fathers from the times before any Englishman could taint the true history if the Irish Celtic History) Sadly you are goin to try and disprove this....but that doesn't matter because it's what I personally believe and I have done my history to prove it to my satisfaction....but i'm not ignorant like you....that may be a harsh thing to say, but sadly in my opinion it fits. Mainly because of your blatant disregard for those who have different opinions and views........ohh and by the way communion was taken by christianity from wicca, I.E. "The Cake and Ale Rite" after all the magickal rites and rituals are done you have cake and ale to replace the energy you spent in your workings. it could be any starchy food and any beverage....depending on your tradition. Cake and Ale=Bread and WaterWine i truly wish that someday you can open your mind to the idea of tolerance....you make me sad... crying crying crying p.s. I love you 2 jess xd xd xd wink a..well its not really.. celtic irish history. i think it would jsut be caleld celtic history, but i mayeb be mistaken. correct me if i'm wrong boyo. but yeah. more power to you as well.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:48 pm
"Wow and this is why gaia has a discussions thread. :/
Maybe you all should take it there instead of here.
The halloween guild is the home to anyone that enjoys halloween.
Maybe this person should find an all irish halloween guild and make everybody happy, cause theres no way in hell that one person is gunna stop millions of people on this planet from celebrating halloween just cause their not irish. :/"
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:51 pm
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:48 am
The discussion thread get's you nowhere. sad
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:16 am
tinkys85 ] ok,gombeen(village idiot),halloween was never a religious holiday,it was a pagan festival,there is no such thing as st Patty and christmas is not a european holiday-it is a christian holiday,just as Oiche Samhain (Halloween)an irish custom is irish.I have never ate corn beef, but i think the english were reduced to eating it during world war 2.as for cabbage well we dont eat cabbage in my house.
paddy's day is not boring,we celebrate in a christian fashion-not as a commercial holiday as in America.with all due respects i'm sure amercians would not appreciate it if we started celebrating bigger,better and tackier thanksgivings than them.Besides i dont see Amercians celebrating an other immrigrants holidays.For the Irish, Americans are an embarassment.they come over expecting specisial treatment and assume that we Irish are poor and uneducated and end up puzzled when the Irish ignore them.Can you blame the irish for being resentful?Then they think they can celebrate Irish holidays,fair enough but if they want to celibrate irish customs Ireland is the place for it.Then they think they can celebrate Irish holidays,fair enough but if they want to celibrate irish customs Ireland is the place for it. Mas go bhfuil tu gan eolas EIST DO BEAL!um i think u need to do some reading 1#christmas started as yule (a pagan holiday)2#ur ignorance on ur own "customs" is sicking, you think we think were bigger and better, at least a good number of us can be tolarant of other ppl, so according to u no one in other countries can celebrate any holiday that did not origanate in that country.i dont see how im the "stuck up one" enjoy ur own ignorance because at this point you are no better than a racist yes xmas did start as yule,it was to brighten the dark winter nights and to celebrate the on coming spring.christians replaced with christmas.i am well aware of my customs thank you very much-and no, america is not a tolerant country to other countries-Iraq being the main victim at the mo.you are the ignorant one assuming at halloween we have a "boring" time eating cabbage and corned beef.what we do give the trick or treaters to eat then is nuts,sweets and fruit,we also give them money.we also have fireworks(illegal but everyone ignores that,even the gardai) and go apple dunking.st patty doesnt exist either.if you want to celebrate st paddy's day come to dublin.but dont claim our holidays as your own,thank you.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:22 am
Scrait The Second PoppyDadswell Scrait The Second Small colonies and immigrants are what founded America. I have heard that St Patricks day is mostly boring in Ireland anyway, you eat corn beef cabbage and maybe pray. We have a big big St Patricks day celibration. Also, St Patty's day and Halloween are relegious holidays (or halloween used to be) and you can't expect christians to stp celibrating something like Christmas because it is European.
paddy's day is not boring,we celebrate in a christian fashion-not as a commercial holiday as in America.with all due respects i'm sure amercians would not appreciate it if we started celebrating bigger,better and tackier thanksgivings than them.Besides i dont see Amercians celebrating an other immrigrants holidays.For the Irish, Americans are an embarassment.they come over expecting specisial treatment and assume that we Irish are poor and uneducated and end up puzzled when the Irish ignore them.Can you blame the irish for being resentful?Then they think they can celebrate Irish holidays,fair enough but if they want to celibrate irish customs Ireland is the place for it.Mas go bhfuil tu gan eolas EIST DO BEAL!Ok, b***h (female dog; a woman who is generally rude or displeasing), thank's for typing out some useless s**t. Go ahead and celibrate thanksgiving, have all the turkey you want. Most people don't give a ******** class="clear"> why should i?thanksgiving means nothing to me,i was just making a point.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 9:46 am
no one is questioning that halloween started as an irish custom, and as far as assuming everyone in the us agrees with this war is false, i dont agree with it i think we should have kept our asses at home and away from over there,( i ask goddess everyday to make this war stop ,ive lost freinds family etc.) as far as the cabbage thing i didnt say it, but its not fair for u to say that ppl over here can not celebrate a hoilday just because it originated in another country, what about the african americans here who celebrate kwanza , or the jewish ppl who celebrate haunika( once again i apologize for my spelling) or even the christian ppl over here who celebrate christmas , easter, etc. you are pretty much saying that no one but native american ppl can celebrate holidays in america, i hope you can one day open ur mind,it really is sad and depressing to see this sort of thing, btw why come into a guild about ppl that love halloween and start this thread, frankly that seems stupid to me
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:59 am
tinkys85 no one is questioning that halloween started as an irish custom, and as far as assuming everyone in the us agrees with this war is false, i dont agree with it i think we should have kept our asses at home and away from over there,( i ask goddess everyday to make this war stop ,ive lost freinds family etc.) as far as the cabbage thing i didnt say it, but its not fair for u to say that ppl over here can not celebrate a hoilday just because it originated in another country, what about the african americans here who celebrate kwanza , or the jewish ppl who celebrate haunika( once again i apologize for my spelling) or even the christian ppl over here who celebrate christmas , easter, etc. you are pretty much saying that no one but native american ppl can celebrate holidays in america, i hope you can one day open ur mind,it really is sad and depressing to see this sort of thing, btw why come into a guild about ppl that love halloween and start this thread, frankly that seems stupid to me ok fair enough i accept your points but i want everyone to understand that if they want to celebrate irish customs and holidays well they should respect the irish(ie-we are not illerate,poor and barefoot.this is an old cliqued image which is plain insulting.)as for joining the guild i said as much in the application as i have said i this thread and somehow i was accepted confused
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 11:31 am
Scrait The Second The discussion thread get's you nowhere. sad
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:16 pm
ok fair enough i accept your points but i want everyone to understand that if they want to celebrate irish customs and holidays well they should respect the irish(ie-we are not illerate,poor and barefoot.this is an old cliqued image which is plain insulting.)as for joining the guild i said as much in the application as i have said i this thread and somehow i was accepted confused
i have never said i do not respect the irish, helll im married to one(*winks at junkpile*)which also make my two children irish, i was just offended by ur words thank u for repecting my veiws and though i do not agree with ur views there urs and i respect u for voicing them, just wanted u to understand my side thanx
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:21 pm
xXKielahXx Scrait The Second The discussion thread get's you nowhere. sad The music forum stands pretty strong.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:19 pm
"Yeah obviously, now a days life is music. I just wish that people would listen to more respectable artists xd But who am I to say whats good and whats not."
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:37 pm
I listen to pretty respectable artist.
Not much good stuff floating around in America though.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:31 pm
darkshadowofthegoths junkpile The Great Sabbats of Wicca are Imbolc=Feb2nd, Ostara=Spring Equinox, Beltain=May1st, Midsummer Eve=Summer Solstice, Lughnasadh=Aug1st, Mabon=Autumn Equinox, Samhian=OCTOBER 31..... scream gonk scream , YULE=DECEMBER21.... scream gonk scream . most of the dates vary around the lunar month and the solar year. This has been known scince before the burning times.....(look it up) also Wicca arguably predates Christianity. these Great Sabbats are Celebrations and Hollidays for the different seasons that glorify the Lord and Lady. Samhain was turned into Halloween by the Roman Catholic Church to make it more appealing to the ("Native Heathens"....our ancestors and founding fathers from the times before any Englishman could taint the true history if the Irish Celtic History) Sadly you are goin to try and disprove this....but that doesn't matter because it's what I personally believe and I have done my history to prove it to my satisfaction....but i'm not ignorant like you....that may be a harsh thing to say, but sadly in my opinion it fits. Mainly because of your blatant disregard for those who have different opinions and views........ohh and by the way communion was taken by christianity from wicca, I.E. "The Cake and Ale Rite" after all the magickal rites and rituals are done you have cake and ale to replace the energy you spent in your workings. it could be any starchy food and any beverage....depending on your tradition. Cake and Ale=Bread and WaterWine i truly wish that someday you can open your mind to the idea of tolerance....you make me sad... crying crying crying p.s. I love you 2 jess xd xd xd wink a..well its not really.. celtic irish history. i think it would jsut be caleld celtic history, but i mayeb be mistaken. correct me if i'm wrong boyo. but yeah. more power to you as well. thank you and i'm sorry for the over simplification....considering allt the varying groups that form all of celtic history i should have just said that.... gonk thank you though.
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