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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:20 am
..Le Chat du Noir.. Personally, yes, I could date a pro-lifer. Most of the pro-lifers I know approve of abortion in life-threatening cases. In my case, that's sure to be all the time.. But then again, I don't plan on premartial sex anyways. well i think it's different. You don't have to worry about your husband killing your offspring using abortion laws as cover, we do. Given, there's an element of trust and, if i can't trust my wife, why the hell am i with her, but you have to understand that i could get her pregnant, then have something happen to me, and then what? will she destroy my son or daughter after i'm gone if it's just too difficult for her to raise them?
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:47 am
As long as he doesn't want to debate it with me at every turn. Agree to disagree. But if I get pregnant and he's pushing for an abortion, it's won't fly with me.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:43 pm
My boyfriend and I have discussed this on numerous occassions when we were younger. I made sure he knew where I stood on the situation. He was pretty much pro-choice. He disagreed with it he said, but he thinks that it was a persons choice. It made me angry with him and I debated if I wanted to be with him, but since we've been together and I've talked to him more about it he's changed his opinion of it. He's always told me, however, he would never ask a girl to kill his baby, but if the girl wanted to he'd stand by her decission. I told him he better not. I don't know why anyone would watch someone do something they don't agree with. Maybe I'm overly opinionated, but I would talk to them and let them know what they were going to be doing. I told my boyfriend that I hope he'd do the same.
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:46 pm
I'd be scared if Terje would be fine with a girl aborting his baby. I don't know. It'd just...worry me that he wouldn't care about our own kids.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:30 pm
well, there's a difference. That's the confustion with the pro choice thing
I mean, i understand why someone would want an abortion, but i can't see any reason to justify it. I see it as a violation of human life, and something that should be illegal. Now i could date a girl, who completely agrees with me, except for the illegal part (which happens to be the case) she's pro choice, but would never get an abortion herself. Do i disagree? sure. Do we discuss it? yep. Is she wrong HELL yes mrgreen but i still love her and i know that if i gave her my baby (which is difficult to do when you're not having sex, so i have no fears here) I know she wouldn't kill it. I think that's ok. It'd possible to have a relationship like this that works, but you gotta know exactly where the other person stands.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:37 pm
I couldn't marry a pro life male (as I don't see sex and thus children in the picture for dating, if ever.) I'd be too worried he'd attempt to control me, and might end up hurting me for his beliefs, as some medical things this day and age that have to do with those body parts still require consent of a man before the woman it is directly effecting. While I know most pro lifers arn't so extreme, there is a small chance and I'm not gonna risk it.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:56 pm
Faeyas I couldn't marry a pro life male (as I don't see sex and thus children in the picture for dating, if ever.) I'd be too worried he'd attempt to control me, and might end up hurting me for his beliefs, as some medical things this day and age that have to do with those body parts still require consent of a man before the woman it is directly effecting. While I know most pro lifers arn't so extreme, there is a small chance and I'm not gonna risk it. confused You have to trust whoever you're going to marry anyways. You already acknowledged that there's only a slight chance that a Pro-Life man would hurt you in an effort to keep you from having an abortion (You said control, but I'm assuming that's what you mean?). Well there's a slight chance that he could be an axe murderer too, but that's hardly a reason to never marry any man. If he's Pro-Life and knows your opinion on the subject and still agrees to marry you, then I should think you could trust him. If he's extreme Pro-Life to the point of holding you down for nine months so you don't have an abortion, then he's likely to leave you as soon as you say you're Pro-Choice, so I don't think you have anything to worry about. Although, no offense, but from what you've said about your condition and how you will have abortions rather then have your uterus removed, I doubt that any Pro-Life man would want to marry you. Not necessarily because you're Pro-Choice, but because you would abort any children of his that were conceived, in the hopes that someday there will be a way to save you both. I can understand why you would rather have abortions then be sterilized, and considering your political standings I can understand why that's okay to you completely, I just doubt that any Pro-Life man would want to go through that kind of heartbreak over and over in the hopes of "maybe." sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:26 pm
I've been in this circumstance, and the answer for me is no, I could not date a man who was pro-choice. It hurts me too much. There are some issues that aren't as important to me that I would be able to put aside, but I believe that abortion is a grave issue, and if we can't agree on something as important as that, how will we make it very far at all?
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:22 pm
I could date someone who was a pro-choice or even marry him when that came down the road and later.
It is something different with a pro-choice female and a pro-life male however. If I were a male the answer would still be yes as long as I loved her. If we were fresh out of highschool and college was coming on and she got pregnant I wouldn't want her to get an abortion but I'd have to keep in mind that we aren't even ready for the committment of getting married much less raising a child.
I guess It all depends on what you see the "child" as. I see it as a fetus to a certain point and other's will call it a baby. As long as she knows I want to have children someday then I won't bother to make it a relationship destroying thing.
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:41 pm
I couldn't date someone pro-choice. Abortion is disgusting enough to me that a person I'm with seriously (which is the only kind of relationship I have or want) can't support it. I can (kind of) deal with it in friends, but a significant other? No.
Before I started dating my boyfriend, that was something I made sure to find out about (was so very relieved to find he's pro-life, too!).
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:16 pm
Ava R. I couldn't date someone pro-choice. Abortion is disgusting enough to me that a person I'm with seriously (which is the only kind of relationship I have or want) can't support it. I can (kind of) deal with it in friends, but a significant other? No.
Before I started dating my boyfriend, that was something I made sure to find out about (was so very relieved to find he's pro-life, too!). Mine is as well....which surprised me actually because he doesn't really get all activist over anything. Sure he has his opinion but to be honest, I don't think he's ever voted for anything. He finally registered for the presidential election but he lost his absentee ballot and I don't think he voted at all this past Nov. As far as abortion goes, I think a lot of guys are like that. It's such a dominant lady issue since men do not get pregnant. I've known a lot of guys who probably don't like the idea of abortion. But because it's never directly affected them...since they've never gotten a girl pregnant or have to worry about becoming pregnant, they can be so apathetic and undecided on the issue until something hits them on a more personal level. My first reaction is to think "pro-choice" but I don't even know if that's even very accurate because they've given such little thought to it that they haven't really decided on their own stance. While I think girls pretty much are becoming more and more aware at earlier ages as we learn about the equipment we carry and what its function is.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:01 am
Cyanna Ava R. I couldn't date someone pro-choice. Abortion is disgusting enough to me that a person I'm with seriously (which is the only kind of relationship I have or want) can't support it. I can (kind of) deal with it in friends, but a significant other? No.
Before I started dating my boyfriend, that was something I made sure to find out about (was so very relieved to find he's pro-life, too!). Mine is as well....which surprised me actually because he doesn't really get all activist over anything. Sure he has his opinion but to be honest, I don't think he's ever voted for anything. He finally registered for the presidential election but he lost his absentee ballot and I don't think he voted at all this past Nov. As far as abortion goes, I think a lot of guys are like that. It's such a dominant lady issue since men do not get pregnant. I've known a lot of guys who probably don't like the idea of abortion. But because it's never directly affected them...since they've never gotten a girl pregnant or have to worry about becoming pregnant, they can be so apathetic and undecided on the issue until something hits them on a more personal level. My first reaction is to think "pro-choice" but I don't even know if that's even very accurate because they've given such little thought to it that they haven't really decided on their own stance. While I think girls pretty much are becoming more and more aware at earlier ages as we learn about the equipment we carry and what its function is. i have a friend like that. he c laims that because he is both male and gay, it doesn't effect him. thus, he feels that he shouldn't care. rape doesn't effect me, that doesn't mean i should condone it.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:26 pm
I've dated pro-choicers. Ultimately that's what ended the relationships. We fought too much about it and I couldn't stand to be with someone who so easily disregarded a human life.
Happily, I am now in a completely pro-life relationship. Yay.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 1:42 pm
I.Am ...go through that kind of heartbreak over and over in the hopes of "maybe." That's dating in a nutshell.
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Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:15 pm
Theallpowerfull I.Am ...go through that kind of heartbreak over and over in the hopes of "maybe." That's dating in a nutshell. xd But I'm talking about heartbreak over the death of my children. How could I live with and conceivably marry the murderer of my children?
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