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 Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:56 am
samuraichikX AHURA MAZDA Ormazd River1 It's true. Theres just ONE thing though. WITHOUT Kaoru and her love for him he prolly never would have survived fighting Shishio. Do you remember in the last few episodes there were some flash backs? Well, in a few of them it is realy only him and Kaoru and some with just her in it. Also, in one of the episodes, he asks her to marry him (from what I remember so maybe not) But SERIOUSLY. Without her he'd prolly never survive. Plus he WOULDN"T be complete. That was the episode called Kaoru ecstatic. when Kenshin gave Kaoru the engangement ring not really knowing what he was actually doing! that was such a funny episode, i was like on the ground crying cuz i was laughing so hard like amost all of the episode, even had to rewind cuz i was laughint too hard to notice what was happeing next DUDE! I'm with you, Kaoru is just so desperate to have Kenshin is hilarious. I loved it when she is all dreaming about her first night with Kenshin and she just faints. HAHAHA. Not to mention Kenshin's face when he realizes what he done.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:00 pm
samuraichikX well first of all the OVA you're pointing out wasnt really the ending even the writer of the manga nobohiro watsuki did not agree with it. and i agree with him, honestly leaving her for shishio was hard enough he would never do that again >< second you cant really control true love, they both loved eachother soo much it's wrong to stop it. besides she didnt care about his past she was a really strong woman. like megumi said in the OVA "that's why he picked you" she was strong and smiled regardless of what happened to her. and honestly kenshin is almost as strong, what he went through would have drawn any man to insanity, even suicide. but he persevered and third THEY ARE THE CUTEST COUPLE and their son is adoreable, kenji is just cute as a button. specially in the manga, and in the anime he's hardcore. but anyway kenshin and kaoru are like my favorite couple You see that is what bothers me, The whole idea of Rurouni Kenshin belongs entirely to Watsuki so why did he allow REFLECTION to end how it did? If he had made the couple a bit more romantic (JUST A BIT THOUGH!) in the manga how did he manage to let the OVA change the view.
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:44 pm
Watsuki didn't write the OVA. In fact I don't believe he had much to do with the process at all. He said himself he didn't like the way the OVA ends and prefers his own manga ending. I don't know exactly how copyrights work in Japan, but the most likely theory is that once Watsuki signed on to let Ruroken be made into an anime (or maybe the rights had already been accessed by Jump Comics and they had it made into an anime), he lost the rights to the OVA. What I mean is, the OVA is anime, and technically Rurouni Kenshin. Watsuki did not have much, if anything, to do with the formation of the anime - other people do that. They probably asked for his okay on making an OVA and took it from there, leaving him out.
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:07 am
AHURA MAZDA Ormazd samuraichikX AHURA MAZDA Ormazd River1 It's true. Theres just ONE thing though. WITHOUT Kaoru and her love for him he prolly never would have survived fighting Shishio. Do you remember in the last few episodes there were some flash backs? Well, in a few of them it is realy only him and Kaoru and some with just her in it. Also, in one of the episodes, he asks her to marry him (from what I remember so maybe not) But SERIOUSLY. Without her he'd prolly never survive. Plus he WOULDN"T be complete. That was the episode called Kaoru ecstatic. when Kenshin gave Kaoru the engangement ring not really knowing what he was actually doing! that was such a funny episode, i was like on the ground crying cuz i was laughing so hard like amost all of the episode, even had to rewind cuz i was laughint too hard to notice what was happeing next DUDE! I'm with you, Kaoru is just so desperate to have Kenshin is hilarious. I loved it when she is all dreaming about her first night with Kenshin and she just faints. HAHAHA. Not to mention Kenshin's face when he realizes what he done. OMG I KNOW when i saw kenshin's face i just cracked up
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:18 am
Akira_Hoshino Watsuki didn't write the OVA. In fact I don't believe he had much to do with the process at all. He said himself he didn't like the way the OVA ends and prefers his own manga ending. I don't know exactly how copyrights work in Japan, but the most likely theory is that once Watsuki signed on to let Ruroken be made into an anime (or maybe the rights had already been accessed by Jump Comics and they had it made into an anime), he lost the rights to the OVA. What I mean is, the OVA is anime, and technically Rurouni Kenshin. Watsuki did not have much, if anything, to do with the formation of the anime - other people do that. They probably asked for his okay on making an OVA and took it from there, leaving him out. meh i have to say i kinda wish they merged the tales of the meiji 3rd season and the jinchuu arc, that would make one kick a** ending, and it would also make the series longer, and i would understand more of the jinchuu cuz first of all i havent gotten that far in the manga and i'm kinda getting tired of watching the same episodes, i like the tales of the meiji but i also like the manga aahhhhhh. i mean really would be more romantic between kenshin and kaoru had they combined what happened during feng shuei and jinchuu
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:48 am
Feng... shuei?
The Jinchuu arc, by all rights, should have been in the anime. It follows directly after the Kyoto arc in the manga. The filler episodes - the Katsu Kaishu story, the Yuutarou story, the Shougo arc - were all big disappointments. There was no reason for them to cut off where they did and leave the Jinchuu arc to be grazed over briefly in the Seisouhen. Well, you should keep reading the manga -non of the stupid filler stories are in it (they wouldn't be fillers if they were!) and Jinchuu is so interesting when it's read in its entirety. What happens between Kenshin and Kaoru is ten times more romantic than their weird "I'm sick I'm dying" routine in Seisouhen.
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:01 pm
Akira_Hoshino Feng... shuei? The Jinchuu arc, by all rights, should have been in the anime. It follows directly after the Kyoto arc in the manga. The filler episodes - the Katsu Kaishu story, the Yuutarou story, the Shougo arc - were all big disappointments. There was no reason for them to cut off where they did and leave the Jinchuu arc to be grazed over briefly in the Seisouhen. Well, you should keep reading the manga -non of the stupid filler stories are in it (they wouldn't be fillers if they were!) and Jinchuu is so interesting when it's read in its entirety. What happens between Kenshin and Kaoru is ten times more romantic than their weird "I'm sick I'm dying" routine in Seisouhen. the feng shuei arc was the last few episodes following the incident where yotaru comes back it's this thing where some few people who use feng shuei fight eachother involving something that happened during the tokugawa. i dont think they ever released it on tv so if u dont have the DVDs u probably havent seen it but i do totally agree with u on the seihousen, i seriously hated that OVA >< and i think a lot others think the same
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:23 pm
Oh, I remember that. I saw it. I just call it the "Yutarou" arc because I hated it and didn't pay much attention to the actual plot. xd The only good part was when Kenshin carried Kaoru across the bridge.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:13 am
Once Watsuki signed over the right sfor his story to be animated, Sony had carte blanche to do what they pleased. Eventhough Watsuki would probably never have approved of Seisou if he'd been asked directly, the fact that he signed his story over to be animated was his "direct consent". This is why lawyers make good money.
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:55 pm
Not having seen Reflection I don't have much to say. I do know how it ends though and that sucks...
I also agree on the point that Jinchuu should have been animated. I understand that the filler season came because Watsuki wasn't done with the manga yet but they could have just put the anime on a hiatus and then pick up with Jinchuu.
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:47 am
Jam-Kiske Not having seen Reflection I don't have much to say. I do know how it ends though and that sucks... I also agree on the point that Jinchuu should have been animated. I understand that the filler season came because Watsuki wasn't done with the manga yet but they could have just put the anime on a hiatus and then pick up with Jinchuu. or they could have just done jinchuu after the filler season, cuz i do like the 3rd season and i also like jinchuu...i dunno
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:52 am
I just wanted to point out I was wrong about the Feng Xue arc or however you spell it being Yutarou's arc. It's not; it's after Yutarou and Tsunan Tsukioka is in it. Sorry everyone! It's just that I hated those episodes so I didn't pay attention to them. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:41 pm
Akira_Hoshino Feng... shuei? The Jinchuu arc, by all rights, should have been in the anime. It follows directly after the Kyoto arc in the manga. The filler episodes - the Katsu Kaishu story, the Yuutarou story, the Shougo arc - were all big disappointments. There was no reason for them to cut off where they did and leave the Jinchuu arc to be grazed over briefly in the Seisouhen. Well, you should keep reading the manga -non of the stupid filler stories are in it (they wouldn't be fillers if they were!) and Jinchuu is so interesting when it's read in its entirety. What happens between Kenshin and Kaoru is ten times more romantic than their weird "I'm sick I'm dying" routine in Seisouhen. Actually there is a perfectly good reason that the Jinchuu arc wasn't animated. it's called Ratings. they are what keeps a show on the air. if you want more, then go herealso, the ratings got so bad that Sony cut funding to the show.
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:03 pm
TheIllustriousBlueJay Akira_Hoshino Feng... shuei? The Jinchuu arc, by all rights, should have been in the anime. It follows directly after the Kyoto arc in the manga. The filler episodes - the Katsu Kaishu story, the Yuutarou story, the Shougo arc - were all big disappointments. There was no reason for them to cut off where they did and leave the Jinchuu arc to be grazed over briefly in the Seisouhen. Well, you should keep reading the manga -non of the stupid filler stories are in it (they wouldn't be fillers if they were!) and Jinchuu is so interesting when it's read in its entirety. What happens between Kenshin and Kaoru is ten times more romantic than their weird "I'm sick I'm dying" routine in Seisouhen. Actually there is a perfectly good reason that the Jinchuu arc wasn't animated. it's called Ratings. they are what keeps a show on the air. if you want more, then go herealso, the ratings got so bad that Sony cut funding to the show. I disagree. Kenshin was a very popular anime in Japan. The site you listed says that the reason Jinchuu wasn't animated was because there wasn't enough material in the manga to anime yet. They could have made a handful of fillers and then started the Jinchuu arc, but because they continued their stupid fillers, their ratings dropped horribly. That would not have happened except that the fillers really are stupid - there isn't a single redeeming quality in anime of them. It's the producers fault for not forseeing this event, for not giving their best effort, and for not looking for other ways to deal with the initial problem. I'm sure there are many ways they could have gotten around it. They thought they were playing it safe, but in the end they ruined everything. I wouldn't say it's a perfectly good reason at all since it could have been so easily circumvented. Of course, I'm also ridiculously passionate about it, and still nursing fury over the cancellation. So I have to rant about it whenever I can. rofl
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 1:52 pm
Akira_Hoshino TheIllustriousBlueJay Akira_Hoshino Feng... shuei? The Jinchuu arc, by all rights, should have been in the anime. It follows directly after the Kyoto arc in the manga. The filler episodes - the Katsu Kaishu story, the Yuutarou story, the Shougo arc - were all big disappointments. There was no reason for them to cut off where they did and leave the Jinchuu arc to be grazed over briefly in the Seisouhen. Well, you should keep reading the manga -non of the stupid filler stories are in it (they wouldn't be fillers if they were!) and Jinchuu is so interesting when it's read in its entirety. What happens between Kenshin and Kaoru is ten times more romantic than their weird "I'm sick I'm dying" routine in Seisouhen. Actually there is a perfectly good reason that the Jinchuu arc wasn't animated. it's called Ratings. they are what keeps a show on the air. if you want more, then go herealso, the ratings got so bad that Sony cut funding to the show. I disagree. Kenshin was a very popular anime in Japan. The site you listed says that the reason Jinchuu wasn't animated was because there wasn't enough material in the manga to anime yet. They could have made a handful of fillers and then started the Jinchuu arc, but because they continued their stupid fillers, their ratings dropped horribly. That would not have happened except that the fillers really are stupid - there isn't a single redeeming quality in anime of them. It's the producers fault for not forseeing this event, for not giving their best effort, and for not looking for other ways to deal with the initial problem. I'm sure there are many ways they could have gotten around it. They thought they were playing it safe, but in the end they ruined everything. I wouldn't say it's a perfectly good reason at all since it could have been so easily circumvented. Of course, I'm also ridiculously passionate about it, and still nursing fury over the cancellation. So I have to rant about it whenever I can. rofl You are so right! I love the anime but some fillers are just like (huh) but hey its kenshin and that's why we like them. I guess the best thing they would of done was to wait for the manga to finish off or be about to finish to launch The Jinchuu Arc because IT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT PHASE IN RUROUNI KENSHIN! (AHHH!!) calm down...
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