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 Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:37 am
Ulforce V-Dramon info. And if you search "List of Digimon" you'll get...well a list of all the digimon. I forget how to branch out so you can see specifically Mega level Digimon, but that should help for guys like Milleniumon and Ulforce V-Dramon as I know they're not too mainstream. I'll reply to that post tommorrow. Partially so you have time to edit if you review the link (assuming you hadn't already looked them up), and partly because I'm lazy. xd
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:53 am
Milleniummon wouldn't have to do trial and error to find out when Celebi first came into existence. He could always pursuade AncientWisemon to tell him or show him when Celebi first came to be.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:13 am
I'm lovin this.
The biggest advantage the Digimon hav is...they're stronger, much.
The biggest advantage the Pokemon have is, they don't "un-evolve."
The only way I see this going for the Pokemon is if they dish out enough damage to specific Digimon, to cause them to reverse digivolve.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 2:46 pm
Kamikazek-Z Ok, I now officaly have no clue who uniforce V-dramon is. If there are a significant number of Digimon who can go FTL, then they probably win this one, which is what I thought in the first place, but... What would you consider a significant number? Quote: Lucymon gave the tamers more trouble than the knights did combined, plus he has the data of the knights along with most of the digitsl world, so I assume he's stronger. He might have more power, but didn't the Digidestined take on the Knights directly before this? I can't really remember a lot of Frontier as it wasn't that great to me.... Anyway, having more power doens't put him above the other Knights, which was my main point. Quote: The Cellibies aren't going to let Milliniumon check every moment of the history of the pokemon world without confrontation. Mxy pointed out that AncientWisemon could guide him there, and really, the Celebi wouldn't be able to do much. First off, they'd need to be able to trace him invariably, then they'd have to get around his more dangerous attacks, like Chrono Paradox or Death Crystal. Quote: Wait, wha? When did I ever say that Mewtwo would or could travel interdemensionaly? And I dout that the digimon are going to go through trouble of making sure the pokemon can't stop the explosion if they think there's no way they possibly can. Well, you were saying that Mewtwo would teleport Apocalymon away, and he's not shown the ability to teleport something between dimensions. Why would the Digimon, if it had gotten to the point that they had actually needed to use this tactic, just assume the Pokemon weren't able to stop the explosion? The greater minds of the group would surely be able to think on pace with Mewtwo, and leave nothing to chance. Quote: Mewtwo is a big assest to me because despite the fact that Celibi's power makes it much more useful is that he's the most powerful pokemon(asside from Ho-oh, but since we don't know what Ho-oh is cappable of he can't be used in this argument), and that mind control/reading are very useful. In fact he could even potentialy copy Celibi's time contolling power. Hell, it's possible that during the battle an army of Mewtwos with full use of their DNA could come from the futer to help, but that's to much up to speculation for a vs. thread, IMO. I just see him going down so easily that, well, it's not much of a match. Either way, I think the Pokemon get beaten, whether the margin is close or not.
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:57 pm
Thanks for the V-dramon info...
Significant number would be like 3 or more.
He wasn't just more powerful. He was stronger, faster, smarter, he had less personality issues that got in the way of battle, he was more versatile, he had a suposed instant death attack...I can't think of any way he wasn't superior to the Knights.
Mewtwo wouldn't transport Apocolimon, Unknown would, or apacolymon if he can, I can't remmber if he could interdemensionaly travel or not. The smarter digimon are certanly as smart if not smarter than Mewtwo, but that doesn't nessisarly mean they'll bind him. Plus it's a lot more difficult to bind somone's brainwaves than their movement. If anything they'd probably swarm and kill Mewtwo and mew pervious to the teleportation.
Mewtwo would go down fairly easy, but he'd be harder to take down than any of his alies except Celibi, Deoxy, and mabey mew.
Also, just what is our sorce material for the pokemon. We seem to already be fusing game versions with anime versions with manga versions for bolth series, but what about card games? If the Pokemon had their powers from the card games it's a whole nother ballgame. Mew in particular has a de-evolution attack that could just plain screw the digimon over, and it also has a pokemon power that makes it so it can only be hurt by basic pokemon regardless of attacks or power, which would probably translate to only Pookies or something hurting mew. But of course the card games are very far from canon so...
And I have thought of another rather cheap and in this case silly way for the pokemon to win. The answer is...missingno! Since the digimon are digital, missingno's mere pressence would glitch the digimon intyo oblivion. And for even more cheapness you could throw in the pokegods(.5 and whatnot), M, and all the other wierd glitches. The only problem is that missingno isn't usualy considered a legendary pokemon, nor is it even an offical pokemon. I still they should make a pokemon movie about missingno...
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:11 pm
But since Missingo being a computer glitch itself would be gliteched by the uber powerful EMF that surrounds all megas.
Um...why is no one questioning my reference of AncientWisemon?
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:54 pm
Kamikazek-Z Thanks for the V-dramon info... Significant number would be like 3 or more. No, I think we only got two Megas that for sure move that fast. Quote: He wasn't just more powerful. He was stronger, faster, smarter, he had less personality issues that got in the way of battle, he was more versatile, he had a suposed instant death attack...I can't think of any way he wasn't superior to the Knights. Smarter for sure. Stronger is questionable, as he mostly used special attacks, when he did attack he didn't do anything more impressive than the Knights (sent the Mega level Digidestined flying, same as the Knights did). And speed he didn't display much of either, as there wasn't a need for it. But he was already fighting weakened DD, so that would explain why they struggled so much more. And I'm talking about all the Royal Knights we've seen thus far, not just Crusadermon and Dynasmon. Even if he was superior to those two, I'm sure guys like Imperialdramon Paladin mode and Omnimon for two, would be able to take him on. Quote: Mewtwo wouldn't transport Apocolimon, Unknown would, or apacolymon if he can, I can't remmber if he could interdemensionaly travel or not. The smarter digimon are certanly as smart if not smarter than Mewtwo, but that doesn't nessisarly mean they'll bind him. Plus it's a lot more difficult to bind somone's brainwaves than their movement. If anything they'd probably swarm and kill Mewtwo and mew pervious to the teleportation. I seriously don't remember the Unown moving between dimensions. And definitely not move something else between them. Quote: Also, just what is our sorce material for the pokemon. We seem to already be fusing game versions with anime versions with manga versions for bolth series, but what about card games? If the Pokemon had their powers from the card games it's a whole nother ballgame. Mew in particular has a de-evolution attack that could just plain screw the digimon over, and it also has a pokemon power that makes it so it can only be hurt by basic pokemon regardless of attacks or power, which would probably translate to only Pookies or something hurting mew. But of course the card games are very far from canon so... Pokemon canon is technically just the games, but Digimon canon is everything, cards, games, manga, anime all of it. That's only because Pokemon has an actual creator, but Digimon came about rahter oddly, with no one person thinking it up and creating them. I'm fine with using the Card versions though, but Mew's de evolution attack probably wouldn't work. I mean the Digimon don't evolve, they Digi-volve, and they're not Pokemon at all, so it wouldn't matter if Mewtwo can only be hurt by basic Pokemon. I mean, it's just unfair to translate abilities like that, otherwise Apocalymon's dedigivolving technique would be killer for the Pokemon. Quote: And I have thought of another rather cheap and in this case silly way for the pokemon to win. The answer is...missingno! Since the digimon are digital, missingno's mere pressence would glitch the digimon intyo oblivion. And for even more cheapness you could throw in the pokegods(.5 and whatnot), M, and all the other wierd glitches. The only problem is that missingno isn't usualy considered a legendary pokemon, nor is it even an offical pokemon. I still they should make a pokemon movie about missingno... Lol! Missingno movie! T'would be awesome, with Ash having to fight something that doesn't exist, he loses every time because he can't hit it with any of his Pokemon's attacks!
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:57 pm
Mr.Mxyzptlk
Um...why is no one questioning my reference of AncientWisemon? Do you want to be questioned? I just took your word for it because, well, you've never lied to me before. But I did go to Wikipedia since you brought it up, and if he has access to the Akashic records then he'd probably be able to. Or did you mean something else by 'questioned my reference", I'm not sure?
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:48 pm
Rashou Mr.Mxyzptlk
Um...why is no one questioning my reference of AncientWisemon? Do you want to be questioned? I just took your word for it because, well, you've never lied to me before. But I did go to Wikipedia since you brought it up, and if he has access to the Akashic records then he'd probably be able to. Or did you mean something else by 'questioned my reference", I'm not sure?
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:05 pm
Mr.Mxyzptlk Rashou Mr.Mxyzptlk
Um...why is no one questioning my reference of AncientWisemon? Do you want to be questioned? I just took your word for it because, well, you've never lied to me before. But I did go to Wikipedia since you brought it up, and if he has access to the Akashic records then he'd probably be able to. Or did you mean something else by 'questioned my reference", I'm not sure? So you just wanted to flaunt your knowledge, eh? Well sorry for taking that away from you! xd
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:05 pm
Rashou Mr.Mxyzptlk Rashou Mr.Mxyzptlk
Um...why is no one questioning my reference of AncientWisemon? Do you want to be questioned? I just took your word for it because, well, you've never lied to me before. But I did go to Wikipedia since you brought it up, and if he has access to the Akashic records then he'd probably be able to. Or did you mean something else by 'questioned my reference", I'm not sure? So you just wanted to flaunt your knowledge, eh? Well sorry for taking that away from you! xd lol.... stare
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:38 am
For starter I didn't bring up the Acient wisemon thing because I agreed with it, sorry if that wasn't clear.
Don't know what EMFs are, but Unknowns a diffrent kind of glicth than they have in the digital world, and glitching him would be pointless because he's already glitched.
It's been a while since I saw the Chaos Lucymon fight, so I could be wrong about a lot of the stuff, but I seem to remmber him taking down one of the digidestant by smashing his knee into then, witch is a pretty good test of stengh. I alao seem to remmber him flying circles aroung the digidestant and moveing faster than they could track. And I was only talking about the roial knights of Fronteer.
As I said before, albert in a confusing way, the Unknown didn't do demension warping in the movie(or at least I don't think they did) but in a episode later on they did, and they also transported Ash, Misty, Brock, and their pokemon to another dimension.
I can see why the immunity to evolved pokemon shouldn't be transfered, but I don't see why the de-evolving move couldn't. There's a lot of variety in pokemon and it works on all of them(or at least all evolved ones), incuding Porigon, who is digital and much diffrent from other pokemon because he's man made and posses none of Mews DNA and the other stuff that all pokemon share. If anything the digimon would be more subseptible because their evolution is much more unstable. And apocolymons didigevolution ability would be useless, as none of the legendary pokemon ever evolve. On a side note, if the card games are allowed I'll have to look trough all my pokemon cards(I have mounds of them) and see if there's anything useful. Paricularly unknown, since they have 26 sinaltaneously useable pokemon powers.
Mabey the plot of the Missingno movie could be that it's destorting the world, or that it's cluttering the entire planet with duplicated items. And M, the Ship scop gost, skelleton Kabottops and Arodectal and all those other glitches would be gaurding it. Ash and co. would try and fail to stop it, and then the pokegods would desend from the heavens and make all right again with their supposed omnipotenceness.
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:25 am
Rashou Mr.Mxyzptlk Rashou Mr.Mxyzptlk
Um...why is no one questioning my reference of AncientWisemon? Do you want to be questioned? I just took your word for it because, well, you've never lied to me before. But I did go to Wikipedia since you brought it up, and if he has access to the Akashic records then he'd probably be able to. Or did you mean something else by 'questioned my reference", I'm not sure? So you just wanted to flaunt your knowledge, eh? Well sorry for taking that away from you! xd
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:47 pm
Kamikazek-Z For starter I didn't bring up the Acient wisemon thing because I agreed with it, sorry if that wasn't clear. Don't know what EMFs are, but Unknowns a diffrent kind of glicth than they have in the digital world, and glitching him would be pointless because he's already glitched. It's been a while since I saw the Chaos Lucymon fight, so I could be wrong about a lot of the stuff, but I seem to remmber him taking down one of the digidestant by smashing his knee into then, witch is a pretty good test of stengh. I alao seem to remmber him flying circles aroung the digidestant and moveing faster than they could track. And I was only talking about the roial knights of Fronteer. As I said before, albert in a confusing way, the Unknown didn't do demension warping in the movie(or at least I don't think they did) but in a episode later on they did, and they also transported Ash, Misty, Brock, and their pokemon to another dimension. I can see why the immunity to evolved pokemon shouldn't be transfered, but I don't see why the de-evolving move couldn't. There's a lot of variety in pokemon and it works on all of them(or at least all evolved ones), incuding Porigon, who is digital and much diffrent from other pokemon because he's man made and posses none of Mews DNA and the other stuff that all pokemon share. If anything the digimon would be more subseptible because their evolution is much more unstable. And apocolymons didigevolution ability would be useless, as none of the legendary pokemon ever evolve. On a side note, if the card games are allowed I'll have to look trough all my pokemon cards(I have mounds of them) and see if there's anything useful. Paricularly unknown, since they have 26 sinaltaneously useable pokemon powers. Mabey the plot of the Missingno movie could be that it's destorting the world, or that it's cluttering the entire planet with duplicated items. And M, the Ship scop gost, skelleton Kabottops and Arodectal and all those other glitches would be gaurding it. Ash and co. would try and fail to stop it, and then the pokegods would desend from the heavens and make all right again with their supposed omnipotenceness. EMF=electromagnetic field
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:25 am
Kamikazek-Z It's been a while since I saw the Chaos Lucymon fight, so I could be wrong about a lot of the stuff, but I seem to remmber him taking down one of the digidestant by smashing his knee into then, witch is a pretty good test of stengh. I alao seem to remmber him flying circles aroung the digidestant and moveing faster than they could track. And I was only talking about the roial knights of Fronteer. Oh yeah, the Frontier Knights he was probably stronger than. But that was mostly because, like you said, he absorbed their Data. Quote: As I said before, albert in a confusing way, the Unknown didn't do demension warping in the movie(or at least I don't think they did) but in a episode later on they did, and they also transported Ash, Misty, Brock, and their pokemon to another dimension. I seriously need to see this episode. sweatdrop Do you have a link to an episode summary or anything, or at least the number/title? Quote: I can see why the immunity to evolved pokemon shouldn't be transfered, but I don't see why the de-evolving move couldn't. There's a lot of variety in pokemon and it works on all of them(or at least all evolved ones), incuding Porigon, who is digital and much diffrent from other pokemon because he's man made and posses none of Mews DNA and the other stuff that all pokemon share. If anything the digimon would be more subseptible because their evolution is much more unstable. And apocolymons didigevolution ability would be useless, as none of the legendary pokemon ever evolve. On a side note, if the card games are allowed I'll have to look trough all my pokemon cards(I have mounds of them) and see if there's anything useful. Paricularly unknown, since they have 26 sinaltaneously useable pokemon powers. But all Pokemon, even Porygon, are still Pokemon. If it was shown to work on a human, I could understand, but it's only been shown to work on Pokemon. Albeit, that's only because it's in the card game, but still, a wrench won't unscrew a screw just because it can unbolt a bolt and a bolt is more stable. I have a feeling I messed that analogy up a huge deal, but I think you get what I'm saying. I also realize I've said that about half a dozen times, meaning if you don't get what I'm saying then you're just listening to me saying what I think you know I'm saying, but not saying whether I'm saying something you can understand....Moving on... The Legendary Pokemon do evolve though. They go from Egg, to Pokemon. Quote: Mabey the plot of the Missingno movie could be that it's destorting the world, or that it's cluttering the entire planet with duplicated items. And M, the Ship scop gost, skelleton Kabottops and Arodectal and all those other glitches would be gaurding it. Ash and co. would try and fail to stop it, and then the pokegods would desend from the heavens and make all right again with their supposed omnipotenceness. Omnipotentness icity. Never forget the -icity! xd
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