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 Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:45 am
Hixton Martial arts and philosophy often go hand-in-hand. It is said that one cannot be a warrior or a scholar, one must be both. But that's only if you're Taoist biggrin . A Taoist (Way-ist) or like me, a Wayfarer. (I am part Buddhist and part Taoist in nature mrgreen ) In my opinion, based on what I have heard, good Karate should be based on 70% kata (form) and kihon (basics), 30% kumite (sparring) and bunkai (applications) ... Without learning proper kihon, your kumite style would be pretty much like brawling (swinging arms and swinging feet ...) and without good kata, you can't learn bunkai ... But well, just kata and kihon by itself would really make your movements really stiff ... I realised that when I spar with some kata players ... (although I also know good kata players who have fluid movements too ...) So, to get the best effect out of your training, you have to mix both well, instead of being sided on just kata or kumite ... mrgreen (ha, the theory of Yin and Yang and the middle path ...)
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:11 am
JoshuaKenzo Moonlight Penguin JoshuaKenzo Gang friction? xd What the hell have you been doing lately? xd xd xd rofl *thwaps him* Yanno when gangs meet up and stuff.. I dunno what to call it. stare Ow. whee You mean gang wars, dear? 3nodding Laren, good to see you again. Philosophy isn't something that should affect the way you fight. It's the way you look at fighting. The way you look at life and death. These sort of things. If your perception of things limits you in your ability, you're doing something terribly wrong. There are, as I think you meant, physical ideals. Where techniques (both of body and mind) might pose a threat for the practitioner or at least put them to a disadvantage. I know, for example, that if ever I were in a street fight wielding an object that could be wielded similarly to a sword, I would not adapt a kendo posture. It is not meant for that. Yeah... that ninja
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:24 pm
In my own opinion, fighting and sparring can never be the same. here's why:
fighting is when two or more people battle for a particular purpose ranging far beyond sport. it's as simple as that. if you try to defend your life, that's fighting for your life. if you try to defend your honor/dignity, that's fighting for you honor/dignity. when your using your fighting skills in a controlled environment (sometimes uncontrolled) mainly for practice, then it's sparring......
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:57 am
Actually, interestingly, my sempai told me something a while back. He has a group of friends, all black belts in different styles, including muay thai (that guy is just...scary! he had this death glare...) and he, himself a black belt in aikido, would spar with them.
However, he said that as a rule, when sparring at that level, there must be a third person watching. Apparently if there was none, the two would end up going beyond sparring in the heat of the moment.
There is a fine line that can be crossed during sparing if they are between two higher level, but equivalent students. Soon the adrenalin kicks in and things become a little more real...
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:12 am
Lunaries Actually, interestingly, my sempai told me something a while back. He has a group of friends, all black belts in different styles, including muay thai (that guy is just...scary! he had this death glare...) and he, himself a black belt in aikido, would spar with them. However, he said that as a rule, when sparring at that level, there must be a third person watching. Apparently if there was none, the two would end up going beyond sparring in the heat of the moment. There is a fine line that can be crossed during sparing if they are between two higher level, but equivalent students. Soon the adrenalin kicks in and things become a little more real... We call it testosteron. We men like to prove our superiority. whee When measuring strength, it's easy to get annoyed when things don't go your way. From there, it's easy to try something nasty. Things can quickly escalate from there. This is where the martial artist is supposed to show that he has acquired also the mental skills, such as control over one's own emotions.
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:57 am
JoshuaKenzo We call it testosteron. We men like to prove our superiority. whee When measuring strength, it's easy to get annoyed when things don't go your way. From there, it's easy to try something nasty. Things can quickly escalate from there. This is where the martial artist is supposed to show that he has acquired also the mental skills, such as control over one's own emotions. Hahaha, trust me, it's not just testosteron, because I find that happening at boxing. It's a good thing I'm so much weaker than the guys I train with so I can go all the way out without injuring them. Hahah actually, it's not so much about being a martial artist. I guess when you have a whole bunch of guys with black belts that's used to fighting on the streets, that's just what happens.
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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:18 pm
Lunaries JoshuaKenzo We call it testosteron. We men like to prove our superiority. whee When measuring strength, it's easy to get annoyed when things don't go your way. From there, it's easy to try something nasty. Things can quickly escalate from there. This is where the martial artist is supposed to show that he has acquired also the mental skills, such as control over one's own emotions. Hahaha, trust me, it's not just testosteron, because I find that happening at boxing. It's a good thing I'm so much weaker than the guys I train with so I can go all the way out without injuring them. Hahah actually, it's not so much about being a martial artist. I guess when you have a whole bunch of guys with black belts that's used to fighting on the streets, that's just what happens. Women don't need testosteron. Women are evil. xd As for the second part, I do believe it has nothing to do with being a blackbelt and more to do with ego in general. Though I'm sure if you don't want to really hurt each other, you could use a third person as a judge just in case.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:52 pm
JoshuaKenzo Women don't need testosteron. Women are evil. xd As for the second part, I do believe it has nothing to do with being a blackbelt and more to do with ego in general. Though I'm sure if you don't want to really hurt each other, you could use a third person as a judge just in case. *gasps* We're not...oh wait...nevermind.. Ah yeah it's not about being a black belt. It's just when you have two black belts sparring and crossing the line after, it's just that much more dangerous.
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:38 am
Lunaries JoshuaKenzo Women don't need testosteron. Women are evil. xd As for the second part, I do believe it has nothing to do with being a blackbelt and more to do with ego in general. Though I'm sure if you don't want to really hurt each other, you could use a third person as a judge just in case. *gasps* We're not...oh wait...nevermind.. Ah yeah it's not about being a black belt. It's just when you have two black belts sparring and crossing the line after, it's just that much more dangerous. EXACTLY. ^^ Gawd, I love this woman. xd
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:49 am
Oi... (just returned from weapons camp last week)
With the concept of being over taken by the ego... all belts are subceptible to this. Black belts have just developed more techniques.
I witnessed perfect examples of this at a college tournament. I've never called so many penalties in my life. That was some brutal fighting (students walking out bleeding and battered). cry
A friend of mine at blue belt level called it hard-core sparring. I looked at her and said, "See that match? See how both competitors leave the ring angry? It would be a mockery to call that sparring."
And that's been my take ever since... if you leave angry you did not spar... you fought.
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Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:53 pm
Amylin Oi... (just returned from weapons camp last week) With the concept of being over taken by the ego... all belts are subceptible to this. Black belts have just developed more techniques. I witnessed perfect examples of this at a college tournament. I've never called so many penalties in my life. That was some brutal fighting (students walking out bleeding and battered). cry A friend of mine at blue belt level called it hard-core sparring. I looked at her and said, "See that match? See how both competitors leave the ring angry? It would be a mockery to call that sparring." And that's been my take ever since... if you leave angry you did not spar... you fought. That's a pretty good way to look at it, though sometimes it doesn't take anger for things to get out of hand. But it's definitely a good signal.
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:20 am
Lunaries Amylin Oi... (just returned from weapons camp last week) With the concept of being over taken by the ego... all belts are subceptible to this. Black belts have just developed more techniques. I witnessed perfect examples of this at a college tournament. I've never called so many penalties in my life. That was some brutal fighting (students walking out bleeding and battered). cry A friend of mine at blue belt level called it hard-core sparring. I looked at her and said, "See that match? See how both competitors leave the ring angry? It would be a mockery to call that sparring." And that's been my take ever since... if you leave angry you did not spar... you fought. That's a pretty good way to look at it, though sometimes it doesn't take anger for things to get out of hand. But it's definitely a good signal. Fear leads to anger... anger leads to hate... hate leads to the dark side... the dark side leads to two martial artists desicrating all they practiced for.
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:58 am
Amylin Lunaries Amylin Oi... (just returned from weapons camp last week) With the concept of being over taken by the ego... all belts are subceptible to this. Black belts have just developed more techniques. I witnessed perfect examples of this at a college tournament. I've never called so many penalties in my life. That was some brutal fighting (students walking out bleeding and battered). cry A friend of mine at blue belt level called it hard-core sparring. I looked at her and said, "See that match? See how both competitors leave the ring angry? It would be a mockery to call that sparring." And that's been my take ever since... if you leave angry you did not spar... you fought. That's a pretty good way to look at it, though sometimes it doesn't take anger for things to get out of hand. But it's definitely a good signal. Fear leads to anger... anger leads to hate... hate leads to the dark side... the dark side leads to two martial artists desicrating all they practiced for. Umm I know with these guys, fear has nothing to do with it. They're friends, and it's simply that they get carried away. You don't feel fear, you don't feel anger, you just feel adrenaline pumping and letting yourself go with it. Dark side? I'm not sure if it's a dark side. It's simply human nature, though I suppose you can call it dark side of human nature. Things happen, I don't believe in condeming people for getting carried away. I'm not sure too if it is desecration. Part of training is to fight. Yes, getting carried away is bad, but when two people willingly do it on a consentual basis, I'm not so sure what's so bad about it. Besides, people used to go around challenging students and teachers from other schools. This is really no different, a testing of skills to see who is more skilled, only giving it all, no holds.
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:01 am
Amylin Fear leads to anger... anger leads to hate... hate leads to the dark side... the dark side leads to two martial artists desicrating all they practiced for. Yes but you do not know the power of the dark side
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:36 am
Lunaries Amylin Lunaries Amylin Oi... (just returned from weapons camp last week) With the concept of being over taken by the ego... all belts are subceptible to this. Black belts have just developed more techniques. I witnessed perfect examples of this at a college tournament. I've never called so many penalties in my life. That was some brutal fighting (students walking out bleeding and battered). cry A friend of mine at blue belt level called it hard-core sparring. I looked at her and said, "See that match? See how both competitors leave the ring angry? It would be a mockery to call that sparring." And that's been my take ever since... if you leave angry you did not spar... you fought. That's a pretty good way to look at it, though sometimes it doesn't take anger for things to get out of hand. But it's definitely a good signal. Fear leads to anger... anger leads to hate... hate leads to the dark side... the dark side leads to two martial artists desicrating all they practiced for. Umm I know with these guys, fear has nothing to do with it. They're friends, and it's simply that they get carried away. You don't feel fear, you don't feel anger, you just feel adrenaline pumping and letting yourself go with it. Dark side? I'm not sure if it's a dark side. It's simply human nature, though I suppose you can call it dark side of human nature. Things happen, I don't believe in condeming people for getting carried away. I'm not sure too if it is desecration. Part of training is to fight. Yes, getting carried away is bad, but when two people willingly do it on a consentual basis, I'm not so sure what's so bad about it. Besides, people used to go around challenging students and teachers from other schools. This is really no different, a testing of skills to see who is more skilled, only giving it all, no holds. Have you ever even seen Star Wars? eek I can't believe you didn't get the joke! xd *beats you with camembert* Silly. whee
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