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 Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:36 pm
Yes, sorry. I had a feeling you'd mentioned some of those points before. ^_^ I just needed to try and sort things out in my head.
Christine- needs a father figure.
Erik- needs a mother figure, a lover and a friend all rolled into one (which is verrah, verrah bad as we all know).
Raoul- likes his hair.
Okay, that wasn't fair, but... oh yeah, and rhyme was completely unintended.
But yeah. The difference between Erik and Raoul can be very simplified- probably oversimplified, but here it is. Raoul is willing to die for Christine. Erik is willing to kill for her. *Shrugs*
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:37 pm
Jurori Songwind Yes, sorry. I had a feeling you'd mentioned some of those points before. ^_^ I just needed to try and sort things out in my head. Christine- needs a father figure. Erik- needs a mother figure, a lover and a friend all rolled into one (which is verrah, verrah bad as we all know). Raoul- likes his hair. Okay, that wasn't fair, but... oh yeah, and rhyme was completely unintended. But yeah. The difference between Erik and Raoul can be very simplified- probably oversimplified, but here it is. Raoul is willing to die for Christine. Erik is willing to kill for her. *Shrugs*
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:37 pm
Jurori Songwind Yes, sorry. I had a feeling you'd mentioned some of those points before. ^_^ I just needed to try and sort things out in my head. Christine- needs a father figure. Erik- needs a mother figure, a lover and a friend all rolled into one (which is verrah, verrah bad as we all know). Raoul- likes his hair. Okay, that wasn't fair, but... oh yeah, and rhyme was completely unintended. But yeah. The difference between Erik and Raoul can be very simplified- probably oversimplified, but here it is. Raoul is willing to die for Christine. Erik is willing to kill for her. *Shrugs* Hey I know I'd rather have some guy running around killing all my enimies for me. It would be...creepily sweet.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:44 pm
Youko-chan XDD EW!! OMFG!! When I read that... I read it wrong. XDD I thought you said Erik IS a mother figure. I was like.... "O_____O OOOOOMFGWTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?" *puts head on keyboard and commences the hysterical laughter once more* HERNIAAAA!!!! Woooooow. What're you on and can I have some? ^_^ But yeah. Erik as a mother figure... now you've gone and put disturbing images in my head. "Christine, sweetie, let's talk about girl stuff." Christine- O.o *Backs away slowly* "Would you like some cookies while we talk? Ooh, we could do each other's hair..." Christine- *Runs away screaming* "Well, really, using your outdoor voice indoors... What DID her mother teach her, anyhow?" xd
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:47 pm
Jurori Songwind Youko-chan XDD EW!! OMFG!! When I read that... I read it wrong. XDD I thought you said Erik IS a mother figure. I was like.... "O_____O OOOOOMFGWTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?" *puts head on keyboard and commences the hysterical laughter once more* HERNIAAAA!!!! Woooooow. What're you on and can I have some? ^_^ But yeah. Erik as a mother figure... now you've gone and put disturbing images in my head. "Christine, sweetie, let's talk about girl stuff." Christine- O.o *Backs away slowly* "Would you like some cookies while we talk? Ooh, we could do each other's hair..." Christine- *Runs away screaming* "Well, really, using your outdoor voice indoors... What DID her mother teach her, anyhow?" xd
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:51 pm
Jurori Songwind Youko-chan XDD EW!! OMFG!! When I read that... I read it wrong. XDD I thought you said Erik IS a mother figure. I was like.... "O_____O OOOOOMFGWTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?" *puts head on keyboard and commences the hysterical laughter once more* HERNIAAAA!!!! Woooooow. What're you on and can I have some? ^_^ But yeah. Erik as a mother figure... now you've gone and put disturbing images in my head. "Christine, sweetie, let's talk about girl stuff." Christine- O.o *Backs away slowly* "Would you like some cookies while we talk? Ooh, we could do each other's hair..." Christine- *Runs away screaming* "Well, really, using your outdoor voice indoors... What DID her mother teach her, anyhow?" xd OMG!!! XD That was good right there, I don't care who you are, thas funny righ' there.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:02 pm
I am not sure if I allready said this but I really didn't mind him much. Sure I thought he was a dumb fop but I didn't mind him.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:02 pm
Youko-chan ... *rolls out of chair in hysterical laughter with a thump* OOOOW!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD *just speared self on a pencap* XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote: OMG!!! XD That was good right there, I don't care who you are, thas funny righ' there. *Takes a bow* Thank-yee, thank-yee, I'll be here all week. Tip yer waitresses. ^_^ Seriously though, Erik trying to pass off as Christine's mother... Erik: Wandering child, so lost, so helpless... yearning for my guidance.. Christine: Angel or mother, friend or phant- Erik: Well really, you don't remember your own mother? What on earth do I have to do to get some attention around here? Christine: O.o Erik: You know what? Screw this! I'll just throw myself in traffic. That's what you want, right? Right? I worked so hard for you, and this is the thanks I get? Some daughter you are! *Sniffles* Raoul: *Just came in* Um... this is a bad time, isn' t it? I'll come back later... *Leaves* Erik: I want some chocolates.
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:12 pm
Jurori Songwind Youko-chan ... *rolls out of chair in hysterical laughter with a thump* OOOOW!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD *just speared self on a pencap* XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote: OMG!!! XD That was good right there, I don't care who you are, thas funny righ' there. *Takes a bow* Thank-yee, thank-yee, I'll be here all week. Tip yer waitresses. ^_^ Seriously though, Erik trying to pass off as Christine's mother... Erik: Wandering child, so lost, so helpless... yearning for my guidance.. Christine: Angel or mother, friend or phant- Erik: Well really, you don't remember your own mother? What on earth do I have to do to get some attention around here? Christine: O.o Erik: You know what? Screw this! I'll just throw myself in traffic. That's what you want, right? Right? I worked so hard for you, and this is the thanks I get? Some daughter you are! *Sniffles* Raoul: *Just came in* Um... this is a bad time, isn' t it? I'll come back later... *Leaves* Erik: I want some chocolates. Erik's on his 'time of the month' XD
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:19 pm
xd I am having FAR too much fun doing that. Oh dear, Erik on his time of the month...
Don't get me started on that.
Erik to Raoul: *Picks up a broom* How dare you touch my daughter like that!
Raoul: *Backs away*
Erik: *Starts chasing Raoul out of the lair with a broom*
Christine: *Hides*
Erik: *Beats Raoul with broom, then returns* WHAT have I told you about bringing punks home, young lady?!
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:29 pm
Jurori Songwind xd I am having FAR too much fun doing that. Oh dear, Erik on his time of the month... Don't get me started on that. Erik to Raoul: *Picks up a broom* How dare you touch my daughter like that! Raoul: *Backs away* Erik: *Starts chasing Raoul out of the lair with a broom* Christine: *Hides* Erik: *Beats Raoul with broom, then returns* WHAT have I told you about bringing punks home, young lady?!
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:34 pm
Mebbe I should write a fanfic based on Erik trying to be Christine's mother.... O.o Wow, that would be special.
Okay, I'm done being off topic. Honestly.
Um... so! Raoul! Right. Yes...
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:23 pm
Dude....O_o;; she was right...my poll dont make sense.....haha... sweatdrop opps...
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:58 pm
Utakan angel_of_joy to be completely honest i have never liked Raoul for the simple reason i don't like the spoiled rotten rich kids that don't have to do anything in life and get everything they want! that just doesn't seem fair to me and Raoul is exactly that! Actually, that's not entirely true of Raoul. In the book it's mentioned that he was young when his Father died and was left in the care of his sisters and older brother. Yes they spoiled him, but only with affection. It also mentions he became a sailor and actually worked out at sea for I think about three years before going to Paris when the storyline starts. So he isn't entirely spoiled down to the core (perhaps just a little more than others) and he has done things in life that couldn't be counted as easy. ..Dear God, I've defended it! *sobs* Why hasth thou forsaken me?! all that you say is true, however he was born into a life better than that of the phantoms and therefore would tend to be a "rich kid" phantom had nothing, no love, only fear and so my humanitarian side feels way more sorry for him and i have a thing against Raoul who was born into a better life. thats all it is!
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:03 am
angel_of_joy Utakan angel_of_joy to be completely honest i have never liked Raoul for the simple reason i don't like the spoiled rotten rich kids that don't have to do anything in life and get everything they want! that just doesn't seem fair to me and Raoul is exactly that! Actually, that's not entirely true of Raoul. In the book it's mentioned that he was young when his Father died and was left in the care of his sisters and older brother. Yes they spoiled him, but only with affection. It also mentions he became a sailor and actually worked out at sea for I think about three years before going to Paris when the storyline starts. So he isn't entirely spoiled down to the core (perhaps just a little more than others) and he has done things in life that couldn't be counted as easy. ..Dear God, I've defended it! *sobs* Why hasth thou forsaken me?! all that you say is true, however he was born into a life better than that of the phantoms and therefore would tend to be a "rich kid" phantom had nothing, no love, only fear and so my humanitarian side feels way more sorry for him and i have a thing against Raoul who was born into a better life. thats all it is! Erik had things, but he wasn't born into a home that loved him. Had he been born unscarred, he would've most likely led a lower middle-class life. Since he was born deformed, however, he was raised solely on hate and fear because of his face and the belief that such deformities were signs of sin. I can't say much more on his life because all we have to go on for it is Susan Kay's book, which more or less tells us he wasn't entirely poor (quite the contrary when it came to his life in Persia) so you can't exactly say Erik had "nothing". I understand his life was hard and that gives us ground to say "poor Erik", but you can't hate Raoul just because he was born privilaged. No one asks to be born poor or even rich, though many prefer to be brought into the world comforted by money and material things. Not to go against your reasoning, but it was rather vague.
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