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 Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 11:02 pm
JoVo The enemy is people, and their enemy is ignorance. Isn't the enemy's enemy my friend though? eek
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:57 am
Nusumi JoVo The enemy is people, and their enemy is ignorance. Isn't the enemy's enemy my friend though? eek Precisely. So you have to choose: 1) Befriend people and smack down ignorance. 2) Befriend ignorance and control people.
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:38 am
JoVo: I may have gone a bit extreme calling the Bible "Just a book" but, it's really hard to want to remain Catholic after all the prejudices the church has shown to have, not to mention the fact the huge scandals that have rocked it.
I may have abandoned Christianity, but I still do believe in Jesus Himself. I think, that were He here, He would tell people that, just because we're gay, doesn't make us different from others. And that, they should embrace us with the same love and compassion that they have for their family and friends. We sin like everyone else does, but our sexuality is not one of them.
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:53 am
Matiko-san JoVo: I may have gone a bit extreme calling the Bible "Just a book" but, it's really hard to want to remain Catholic after all the prejudices the church has shown to have, not to mention the fact the huge scandals that have rocked it. I may have abandoned Christianity, but I still do believe in Jesus Himself. I think, that were He here, He would tell people that, just because we're gay, doesn't make us different from others. And that, they should embrace us with the same love and compassion that they have for their family and friends. We sin like everyone else does, but our sexuality is not one of them. I have no religion at all but it doesn't stop me from seeing a good supernatural christianity movie surprised -Exorcist: The Begining rocked! xd -
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:04 pm
JoVo Nusumi JoVo The enemy is people, and their enemy is ignorance. Isn't the enemy's enemy my friend though? eek Precisely. So you have to choose: 1) Befriend people and smack down ignorance. 2) Befriend ignorance and control people.
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:33 pm
Matiko-san JoVo: I may have gone a bit extreme calling the Bible "Just a book" but, it's really hard to want to remain Catholic after all the prejudices the church has shown to have, not to mention the fact the huge scandals that have rocked it. While all of that is true, remember that Catholics are not the sole arbiters of Christianity. Neither are Protestants for that matter. It is much larger than both those groups. Matiko-san I may have abandoned Christianity, but I still do believe in Jesus Himself. Again, remember that Christianity is belief in Jesus. Christianity, however, is not belief in the evils of homosexuality. The latter is a doctrine either accepted or not by various different Christian organizations. It certainly is not accepted by mine, and we have more right to the name "Christian" than any Protestant group. Some argue we have more right to the name than even the Catholics. Matiko-san I think, that were He here, He would tell people that, just because we're gay, doesn't make us different from others. And that, they should embrace us with the same love and compassion that they have for their family and friends. We sin like everyone else does, but our sexuality is not one of them. I see him doing something like that, except I can totally see him berating thousands of people for their hypocrisy in calling themselves Christian and hating in general.
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:17 pm
Matiko-san He would tell people that, just because we're gay, doesn't make us different from others. And that, they should embrace us with the same love and compassion that they have for their family and friends. We sin like everyone else does, but our sexuality is not one of them. Very true. Jesus loved Mary Magdaline and she was a prostitute for a while. Though some people believe otherwise, he still loved the prostutes and the theives, and murderes. His favorite deciple denied him 3 times. lets face it, god loves the screw ups. he also loves the people that arent screw ups, but he loves them all the same. The people that he did get angry with were the people that would use god for their own personal benifet. thats wat homophobes do, they use god to have a reason to dislike us. hmmmm...i am probably not making sence...o well. Just so u know, i read about not taking crap from people, i am non-denominational. that means i belive wat i want, but i use the normal christian outline, jesus is lord, dies for our sins, he is god, ect. so i dont have to worry about preachers given me b.s....im sorry if i am seeming stupid, thats y i posted this in THIS forum and not E.D. lol
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:30 am
Okay, I'll start off by saying that I am out... but the hardest thing about it was building up the courage to say it.
To begin with, I started telling my friends online to see what sort of reactions I could expect. None of them were too bad, so I took the next step and told my best friend of six years over MSN... even that was taken cautiously, he lives over three hundred kilometres away. He didn't even bat an eyelid - mind you, the next time I saw him, I got off the train and was the receiver of the biggest hug and kiss on the cheek ever.
Next up was Mum - I waited until we were both in a good mood, made us a cuppa, then sat down and simply said "Mum... I'm gay". She responded by telling me she knew that by the time I was fourteen.
That was November last year - and I have had no majorly bad responses from anyone. So I'll finish off by saying this...
ONLY come out when you are ready - and the hardest part of it will be the first few months or so afterwards. I was fortunate enough to have supportive friends and family who have done nothing but tell me how proud of me they are, and how much they love me.
Good luck for those of you who are still coming out... and congratulations to those of you who have, or who have made astart. biggrin
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Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:28 pm
*is pissed off* i was thinking about coming out to my mom and dad but when I came home from school one day, my mom said, " Brian, I was flipping through the channels lat night and I saw about 30 secs. of Will & Grace. I saw two men kissing; I wanted to puke. It was so terrible and I never want to see that again. You should be glad I don't let you watch it"
*grumbles* i love will & grace, but she took it away from me when I attempted to come out last year, but said it was just a thought and being with a man disgusted me. I felt terrible for saying that.
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:05 pm
I wanna come out so bad to my folks!!! i dont know how to do it...I tried once, but Im sure everyone knows my story. I want to talk to my psycologist, but im not seeing her right now and i dont know how ill get in to talk to her with out my mom knowing why. ..this sucks....a lot...
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Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:30 pm
Derek_Keebler I wanna come out so bad to my folks!!! i dont know how to do it...I tried once, but Im sure everyone knows my story. I want to talk to my psycologist, but im not seeing her right now and i dont know how ill get in to talk to her with out my mom knowing why. ..this sucks....a lot... Tell her it's none of her busness and you need to talk to her? neutral
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:56 am
Derek_Keebler I wanna come out so bad to my folks!!! i dont know how to do it...I tried once, but Im sure everyone knows my story. I want to talk to my psycologist, but im not seeing her right now and i dont know how ill get in to talk to her with out my mom knowing why. ..this sucks....a lot... Um. The whole point of having a psychologist is to have someone to share your PRIVATE thoughts with and get help analyzing them I agree with Nusumi, it's none of your mom's business, so just tell her what I said.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:30 pm
JoVo: Doesn't the bible accepts gays, but not the a**l sex? That's what I heard from the grapevine... But then again all I read of the bible(and remembered, anyway) was the Cain and Abel story...
General Thread:
I came out last year. I started out by telling people online, people I've never met personally(for the most part) they took it fine. It was about half a year after publicly(online) admitting I was bisexual before I went to my parents and real life(which is signifigantly smaller than my online life, suffice to say).
We were having dinner, the whole family, and it was quiet. So I cut the silence by saying, word for word, "Hey, this probably isn't the best time to say this, but I'm Bi.".
My Dad denied it, my Mom was like... Kind of appauled, I guess. I got the "You know we love you no matter what you are" speech about 5 million times after that, which was annoying(but flattering).
My friends and school people thought it was "cool"(yeah, whatever).
One of my friends(no longer a friend for different reasons) had very predujice parents, they thought I was GAY, so don't let me hang out with her any more.
My dad still thinks I'm "Not bi-anything".
stare
Otherwise, been a good Bisexual life.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:34 pm
[Q] JoVo: Doesn't the bible accepts gays, but not the a**l sex? That's what I heard from the grapevine... But then again all I read of the bible(and remembered, anyway) was the Cain and Abel story... The Bible says nothing about gays or a**l sex. It condemns homosexual rape, however, right along with heterosexual rape. There are homosexual relationships in the Bible, and the Bible authors condemned homosexual sexuality when it was used for (1) the worship of pagan gods and (2) the subjugation of a male enemy. That's pretty much it.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:05 pm
JoVo [Q] JoVo: Doesn't the bible accepts gays, but not the a**l sex? That's what I heard from the grapevine... But then again all I read of the bible(and remembered, anyway) was the Cain and Abel story... The Bible says nothing about gays or a**l sex. It condemns homosexual rape, however, right along with heterosexual rape. There are homosexual relationships in the Bible, and the Bible authors condemned homosexual sexuality when it was used for (1) the worship of pagan gods and (2) the subjugation of a male enemy. That's pretty much it. I'm pretty sure there's a line "man shall not lieth with mankind, as he lieth with womankind; it is an abomination" In my Bible, anyway.
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