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Callowyn of Calypso

PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:42 am


Personally, I do not think all hunting is wrong...if you look back, the Native Americans had it going on. They used every part of the animal's body, and they respected the animal's spirit after they killed it. Back then, they didn't have vitamin suppliments that we have now. If they became anemic from lack of red meat in their diet.....you get the point. So, not all hunting is wrong. It's only wrong (in my opinion) if you kill for no reason...that, my friends, makes you a murderer, and only that.
BTW, In my personal case, if I got lost out in the wilderness, I wouldn't hunt for survival, because I don't know how. sweatdrop
Anyway, who goes hiking without at least a couple granola bars in their backpacks?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:19 am


I realized something; if it weren't for hunting, our country and our world would be in a much worse state than it is already. Because of hunting, Theodore Roosevelt, an avid hunter, passed a law naming all state parks wildlife preserves and protected.

It's also because of hunting that we have hunting seasons, rather than people killing things all year round, why we have jobs available for people like game wardens, and why many of the hunted species are protected and researched very often. So hunting, in retrospect, can prove very beneficial.

Ailinea


Callowyn of Calypso

PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:44 pm


Ailinea
I realized something; if it weren't for hunting, our country and our world would be in a much worse state than it is already. Because of hunting, Theodore Roosevelt, an avid hunter, passed a law naming all state parks wildlife preserves and protected.

It's also because of hunting that we have hunting seasons, rather than people killing things all year round, why we have jobs available for people like game wardens, and why many of the hunted species are protected and researched very often. So hunting, in retrospect, can prove very beneficial.

You genius. You said exactly what I wanted to say, but in a much more educated way. xp
PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:15 pm


If the animals are hunted because the hunters need food and aren't doing it for sport, and if the animals had a good life before becoming a bear meat sandwich, then it's not so bad. They had a better life than animals raised in captivity before they're killed.

Ramen Jane


Zambimaru

PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:57 pm


I dont have a big problem with hunting. I go sometimes with grandpa, but onley to eat, not for the sport of it. What ever I kill I try to eat most of it as possible so not that mutch goes to waste.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:06 pm


I don't mind hunting as long as you don't kill that many animals, and you plan on eating what you kill, because then it's no different than going to the store and buying a hamburger.

I do mind the people like this one kid on my street that calls me a nature freak because I don't want him to shoot every thing that moves. He's a b*****d.

Lupine Pyrefly


Sarasan

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:44 pm


Where I come from hunting is a way of life. There isn't a native born in NEPA (at least where I live) who hasn't gone hunting at least once in his/her life. To this effect, my own dad jokingly remarks that, on Opening Day of deer season, Northeastern Pennsylvania has the second smallest army in the world. xp Though I do not enjoy hunting myself, I am perfectly happy with the thought of hunting. All of the hunters I've come across have been very nice and very friendly individuals and eat what they kill. I remember tasting bear for the first time in a stew that one of the hunters' wives had made. It was very delicious ... kinda makes me sad that I'm going to miss it this year. Still! When we hunt, we hunt the 2-4 pointers, not the 8-point bucks. To hunt for sport, though, I find to be cruel and barbaric- no, to say barbaric would be an insult to barbarians; they utilized what they killed.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 7:01 am


I don't particularly care for hunting myself, in my opinion it is wrong to take a life for pleasure.

HOWEVER.

In Maryland at least, hunting is highly necessary. We'd be in some deep s**t without it. You see, there are very few natural predators left in Maryland. VERY few. As in, we have a few bears, and a very few cougars, maybe a lynx or two, but that's about it. Because of that, deer populations are COMPLETELY out of control. This causes problems both sociologically AND ecologically. With people it causes problems for a few reasons:
1. Several people are injured or killed every year in accidents involving deer.
2. Agriculture is threatened by the overpopulation of deer eating the crops
3. Deer often invade people's yards and gardens.

Ecologically, the problems can be devastating. For one thing, when deer grow their antlers, they rub them against trees to remove the "velvet". With such an excessive overpopulation of deer, this is killing MANY trees, and leaving others open for disease (Yes, plants can get diseases too.). Also, they destroy forests before they even begin. For a forest to grow, things need to come in a specific order, and you can't have the next one down the line without the first.
1. Grass
2. Small plants and shrubs.
3. Bushes, scrub, underbrush
4. Small, hardy trees such as sassafrass and sweet gum
5. The bigger, more "tree-ish" trees.
Now, deer *obviously* can't eat the leaves on the big trees, now can they? No. So what do they eat? That's right. Ground cover. They eat the grass, small plants, and bushes. Because of this, there's not enough for the trees to grow, and hence a forest never begins. It remains a meadow. The problem there is that not all woodland creatures LIVE in meadows--many live in forests. So, with an overpopulation of deer, the deer are causing just as much habitat destruction as humans.

Think about it.

Ravennwings


[Gross]Face

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:12 pm


One thing I don't like about hunting is that where I live if you own a farm you can kill as many deer you want or any other animals and no one cares. Like the farm I used to work on... they grew miles and miles of corn and one year they killed over 80 deer and they layed there bodies out in a field and just left them there... it was so disturbing and occasionally you would see a bear or even a dog and a kougar in the "death pile" (they were dead also... shot actually.) and the worst part was that I had to ride my horse to and from the farm and I would have to ride past that all of the time and it was extremely hard to control my horse. And they were just the most disgusting people on earth... the loved to torture me... and I could not quit because they were my family's friends.

But thats another depressing long horrible story... well actually two and no one wants to be bother with those.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:28 pm


punk_rocker121391
One thing I don't like about hunting is that where I live if you own a farm you can kill as many deer you want or any other animals and no one cares. Like the farm I used to work on... they grew miles and miles of corn and one year they killed over 80 deer and they layed there bodies out in a field and just left them there... it was so disturbing and occasionally you would see a bear or even a dog and a kougar in the "death pile" (they were dead also... shot actually.) and the worst part was that I had to ride my horse to and from the farm and I would have to ride past that all of the time and it was extremely hard to control my horse. And they were just the most disgusting people on earth... the loved to torture me... and I could not quit because they were my family's friends.

But thats another depressing long horrible story... well actually two and no one wants to be bother with those.

They....just left them to rot? That's illegal where I come from. eek

Callowyn of Calypso


MonkeysThrowTheirPoo

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:53 pm


Hunting is not bad and it isn't evil. Like its been said a million times before there are lots of benefits that have come about because of hunting such as the national parks and the like.

On a different note something that is bothering me alittle bit is the "Romanticism" of early man and Native americans useing the whole animal. Back in the day the reason they did so was out of neccessity. When your life depended on the killing of an animals not capitalizing on every piece of the animal could mean the difference between life and death.

Hunting out of need verses sport? No one that hunts in the modern age needs too. The ones that would need to are the poor and homeless but good luck to them finding the means to afford hunting. Today people hunt to controll the population, out of tradition, for the love of what ever game they are hunting, and a love of being in the wilderness. I hunted when I was younger with my dad. We would go out into the woulds and just sit there together from early morning to mid afternoon. We never shot anything but its a bonding experience I wouldn't trade anything in the world for.

Hunting verses raising stock? Live stock, in my opinion, is what hunting has evolved too. Controlled population raised in healthy enviorments and put down in a VERY uncruel manor.

I wrote alot of this as "matter of fact" but its all my opinion but I would like some comments on it, but only stuff thats fact based and makes sense. A 7 year old girl will have no problem screaming at the top of her lungs that she hates boys with out the faintest idea that she will be twidderpated by them a few years down the line. Don't be the 7 year old girl. Make me one wink

-MMTP ninja
PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:12 pm


MonkeysThrowTheirPoo
Hunting is not bad and it isn't evil. Like its been said a million times before there are lots of benefits that have come about because of hunting such as the national parks and the like.

On a different note something that is bothering me alittle bit is the "Romanticism" of early man and Native americans useing the whole animal. Back in the day the reason they did so was out of neccessity. When your life depended on the killing of an animals not capitalizing on every piece of the animal could mean the difference between life and death.

Hunting out of need verses sport? No one that hunts in the modern age needs too. The ones that would need to are the poor and homeless but good luck to them finding the means to afford hunting. Today people hunt to controll the population, out of tradition, for the love of what ever game they are hunting, and a love of being in the wilderness. I hunted when I was younger with my dad. We would go out into the woulds and just sit there together from early morning to mid afternoon. We never shot anything but its a bonding experience I wouldn't trade anything in the world for.

Hunting verses raising stock? Live stock, in my opinion, is what hunting has evolved too. Controlled population raised in healthy enviorments and put down in a VERY uncruel manor.

I wrote alot of this as "matter of fact" but its all my opinion but I would like some comments on it, but only stuff thats fact based and makes sense. A 7 year old girl will have no problem screaming at the top of her lungs that she hates boys with out the faintest idea that she will be twidderpated by them a few years down the line. Don't be the 7 year old girl. Make me one wink

-MMTP ninja
Awesome points made... but one thing:
Native Americans used everything on the animal because they needed it yes BUT the main reason they used everything was to show respect for the animals and they feared that if they didn't they would be punished. and the Native Americans hardly ever were on the verge of life and dealth until wars were fought against them and when they were pushed off of their land. Well about the punished thing and respect for animals.... thats at least what my family tribe back in the day thought.... and from what i think it is true to all tribes... but oh well... i just felt like putting that down.

and like i said you made awesome point on the whole thing. and i agree i don't think it is evil or that bad. i just could never take the life of an animal and then go up to it and see the eyes glazed over and no soul in the animal. its just something i can't do.

but like some people said also if people didn't kill off so much of the predators we would not have to control the population and we wouldn't have so many extinct/endangered/threatened species. no matter how much people don't want to believe it at times, and i am not talking about specific people just generalizing the people in the towns like the towns i live in, the earth took care of itself with out the help of man for many many years... and man kind of screwed the earth up for themselves...

but thats just my opinion everyone so please don't try to eat me or anything. sweatdrop biggrin

[Gross]Face


[ April.Ericsson ]

PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:22 pm


Hunting isn't really necesarry. I don't like it.

I really hate it when people shoot an animal, but don't kill it, and then leave it. That is cruel. And I don't like it if they kill the animal to get one small part and throw out the rest. If someone were to hunt, they should use EVERY BIT of that. That way, it wouldn't be a waist.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:08 pm


x.larakat.x
Hunting isn't really necesarry. I don't like it.

I really hate it when people shoot an animal, but don't kill it, and then leave it. That is cruel. And I don't like it if they kill the animal to get one small part and throw out the rest. If someone were to hunt, they should use EVERY BIT of that. That way, it wouldn't be a waist.
Like fur coats?

Milkshake-in-a-Cup


Evedi Etros

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:06 pm


Well, I am a hunter myself so I am obviously pro-hunting [usually hunt at least once a week during winter.]
I kill cleanly, quickly and use every part of my catch. As long as hunters do that I can't complain.
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