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Thunder Foot
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:05 am


Mirko_Filipovic
Stylist? Everyone is a Stylist. So that would kinda be the same thing as Martial artists. Pioneer. lol.


Well, actually you are correct. Everyone has a style. But I was referring to "Stylist" in the terms of a person conforming to a particular style, as in Orthodox. When a person fights in such a manner, they are a bit more predictable, and thus slightly easier to overcome.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:09 am


I know what you meant. But it just sounds too ... broad.

Mirko_Filipovic


Thunder Foot
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:16 am


Mirko_Filipovic
I know what you meant. But it just sounds too ... broad.


Yeah, i know it sounds broad... thats why i mentioned it at the end of my post. I mean, this topic is way too broad to begin with.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:27 am


Yeah. I mean, there's not even a real way to make this topic more specific, without going into specific styles, which isn't what this thread is about.

Mirko_Filipovic


Plata Plomo y Sangre

PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:51 pm


In my opinion, Brawlers are usually people with no formal training, style or in some cases, no technique to speak of(though that's not always the case. Some of them learn proper technique simply from fighting. Others, don't). They're usually people who have no formal training, and simply fight for the hell/fun of it.

A fighter, to me, is the same thing as a martial artist. A person trained in a specific style of fighting developed in order to further a person's skill when engaged in a fight. I think my main problem with how people see the martial arts today is as that they're a seperate entity and almost above fighters. It's nice to say that we don't use it for personal gain or pleasure (i.e: going out and kicking people's asses randomly), and simply for self-protection, but the truth of the matter is that martial arts are fighting techniques. There's a reason why they're called "martial" arts. The art of war. So at their core, no matter what their reasons for training, a martial artist is training to be a fighter.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:29 am


The Bull Of The North
In my opinion, Brawlers are usually people with no formal training, style or in some cases, no technique to speak of(though that's not always the case. Some of them learn proper technique simply from fighting. Others, don't). They're usually people who have no formal training, and simply fight for the hell/fun of it.

A fighter, to me, is the same thing as a martial artist. A person trained in a specific style of fighting developed in order to further a person's skill when engaged in a fight. I think my main problem with how people see the martial arts today is as that they're a seperate entity and almost above fighters. It's nice to say that we don't use it for personal gain or pleasure (i.e: going out and kicking people's asses randomly), and simply for self-protection, but the truth of the matter is that martial arts are fighting techniques. There's a reason why they're called "martial" arts. The art of war. So at their core, no matter what their reasons for training, a martial artist is training to be a fighter.


In a fight, experience is more valuable then training. Training is good too, but not nearly as important as experience. A brawler who has been fighting for his life his entire life would mop the floor with all but the greatest martial artists.

Hylonomus


Plata Plomo y Sangre

PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:06 am


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In a fight, experience is more valuable then training. Training is good too, but not nearly as important as experience. A brawler who has been fighting for his life his entire life would mop the floor with all but the greatest martial artists.

True. But assuming they've got the same amount of experience. Experience is important, I agree. But as a fighter, it's usually pretty common-place that at the very least you full contact spar often. Unfortunately, that's the closest one can get to a real fight without actually fighting, and even though sparring is the closest thing, it still doesn't compare to fighting. But then again, many of the fighters I know seemed to have quite a bit of experience under their belts as far as real fights go, so. It depends on the person I suppose.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:25 am


The Bull Of The North
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In a fight, experience is more valuable then training. Training is good too, but not nearly as important as experience. A brawler who has been fighting for his life his entire life would mop the floor with all but the greatest martial artists.

True. But assuming they've got the same amount of experience. Experience is important, I agree. But as a fighter, it's usually pretty common-place that at the very least you full contact spar often. Unfortunately, that's the closest one can get to a real fight without actually fighting, and even though sparring is the closest thing, it still doesn't compare to fighting. But then again, many of the fighters I know seemed to have quite a bit of experience under their belts as far as real fights go, so. It depends on the person I suppose.


I know that in a real fight, I'd rather have some experienced bar-brawler behind me than a guy who's trained in Karate for most of his life.

Hylonomus


Plata Plomo y Sangre

PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:59 pm


Hylonomus
The Bull Of The North
Quote:
In a fight, experience is more valuable then training. Training is good too, but not nearly as important as experience. A brawler who has been fighting for his life his entire life would mop the floor with all but the greatest martial artists.

True. But assuming they've got the same amount of experience. Experience is important, I agree. But as a fighter, it's usually pretty common-place that at the very least you full contact spar often. Unfortunately, that's the closest one can get to a real fight without actually fighting, and even though sparring is the closest thing, it still doesn't compare to fighting. But then again, many of the fighters I know seemed to have quite a bit of experience under their belts as far as real fights go, so. It depends on the person I suppose.


I know that in a real fight, I'd rather have some experienced bar-brawler behind me than a guy who's trained in Karate for most of his life.

In a real fight, I know I'd rather have someone like Bas Rutten who has gotten into many street fights and is TRAINED in formal martial arts and knows good technique than some big guy who's fought a lot.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:33 pm


The Bull Of The North
Hylonomus
The Bull Of The North
Quote:
In a fight, experience is more valuable then training. Training is good too, but not nearly as important as experience. A brawler who has been fighting for his life his entire life would mop the floor with all but the greatest martial artists.

True. But assuming they've got the same amount of experience. Experience is important, I agree. But as a fighter, it's usually pretty common-place that at the very least you full contact spar often. Unfortunately, that's the closest one can get to a real fight without actually fighting, and even though sparring is the closest thing, it still doesn't compare to fighting. But then again, many of the fighters I know seemed to have quite a bit of experience under their belts as far as real fights go, so. It depends on the person I suppose.


I know that in a real fight, I'd rather have some experienced bar-brawler behind me than a guy who's trained in Karate for most of his life.

In a real fight, I know I'd rather have someone like Bas Rutten who has gotten into many street fights and is TRAINED in formal martial arts and knows good technique than some big guy who's fought a lot.


Oh, of course. If I had to choose between two different things I'd always choose both.

However, experience is better than training. A highly trained martial artist still doesn't have the mental preparation for knowing how to take an ungloved punch, or fight tooth and nail.

Hylonomus

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