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Hairy Priest Vice Captain
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 Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:08 am
I think your interpretation would make sense, if the Doctor hadn't likened the Reapers to parasites (or whatever the word he used was) taking advantage of an open wound, and that the Timelords would have stopped them if they were still around. Your explanation makes the Reapers seem beneficial, helping to tidy things up, which makes one wonder why the Timelords would have even wanted to prevent them from doing so. And one would think the easiest solution for the Reapers would have been to just come and killed off Rose's dad. Wouldn't that have repaired the temporal abnormality?
I like the story, but I just don't feel the script explains things as much as it should. Sort of like Ghost Light, I suppose.
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:41 am
I rather liked that episode, but for the somewhat prosaic reason that I used to drive a car one year younger than the one that was hanging round the church. Good old Vauxhall Chevette was still going in 1999, used to start first turn of the key in the rain and the snow, but the chassis was a sieve sad
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:31 pm
Hairy Priest I think your interpretation would make sense, if the Doctor hadn't likened the Reapers to parasites (or whatever the word he used was) taking advantage of an open wound, and that the Timelords would have stopped them if they were still around. Your explanation makes the Reapers seem beneficial, helping to tidy things up, which makes one wonder why the Timelords would have even wanted to prevent them from doing so. And one would think the easiest solution for the Reapers would have been to just come and killed off Rose's dad. Wouldn't that have repaired the temporal abnormality? I like the story, but I just don't feel the script explains things as much as it should. Sort of like Ghost Light, I suppose. Ah, but didn't he also say they cauterise the wound in time? That to me suggests they let themselves in then seal the whole thing off from the inside and chow down on whoever's in there. Like cutting off a gangrenous limb it will stop the infection, but it's not exactly curing it. The Time Lords likely would have had a more sensible way of sorting things out, but I think they both end in the same way, removal of all unnecessary bits of timestrand floating around o_o
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:16 pm
The parts that interested me were when the Doctor referenced the Time Lords.
"There used to be laws to prevent this sort of thing."
and something about going back in time to save his people.
Perhaps we're going to be seeing a lot more of these temporal paradox type episodes, since the other Time Lords aren't around to fix these things.
Also, did anyone else think that perhaps the Doctor didn't actually die when he got eaten by the Reaper? Because the TARDIS was still there until the Reaper flew into it and they both disappeared.
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Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:22 pm
Well, as I hypothesised, perhaps those caught by the reapers are merely taken out of that timestream to keep them from further interfering. That would explain how everyone was able to come back again, but not why really how or why the Reapers had to 'eat' anyone at all n the first place. Perhaps they get taken to the creatures' lair in an another dimension...? But then...what would be the point of bringing them back when everything was restored? Unless they were forced back for the simple reason that if everything was fine again the Reapers couldn't have been there in the first place? Paradoxes breeding paradoxes confused
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 3:34 pm
Star_Lily So this was just broadcast in the States and I was wondering what people's thoughts were regarding the new depiction of the Daleks. I thought it was very interesting the way that the writers drew parallels between the Doctor and the Dalek as the last survivors of a war that "everybody lost." And the addition of a new Companion to the crew. He just seems to be collecting them, doesn't he? Also, I was amused that the ancient question of what a Dalek would do when it encounters stairs was finally answered. EDIT: for Father's DayOkay, so I've decided to turn this into the serial discussion thread for us Americans. The discussion for Father's Day starts on the second page. Well, they got rid of the temporary companion, didn't they! The depiction of the Dalek is interesting indeed. It isn't the first time we've seen the little critter inside the tank, but it's the first time we've gotten up close and personal with one. We've never seen the one eye before. I almost felt sorry for the little mutant.
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Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 10:34 pm
Wind-Whisper Star_Lily So this was just broadcast in the States and I was wondering what people's thoughts were regarding the new depiction of the Daleks. I thought it was very interesting the way that the writers drew parallels between the Doctor and the Dalek as the last survivors of a war that "everybody lost." And the addition of a new Companion to the crew. He just seems to be collecting them, doesn't he? Also, I was amused that the ancient question of what a Dalek would do when it encounters stairs was finally answered. EDIT: for Father's DayOkay, so I've decided to turn this into the serial discussion thread for us Americans. The discussion for Father's Day starts on the second page. Well, they got rid of the temporary companion, didn't they! The depiction of the Dalek is interesting indeed. It isn't the first time we've seen the little critter inside the tank, but it's the first time we've gotten up close and personal with one. We've never seen the one eye before. I almost felt sorry for the little mutant. Which was of course the point. Maybe I just think a little weird but I started drawing comparisons between between the Time War and the Great War (that would be WWI). I particularly liked when the Dalek told the Doctor " You would make a good Dalek." That bit gave me chills. And he's right of course, but for different reasons.
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:21 pm
Quote: Everyone dies in Hamlet?! Nooooo.... gonk Fear Not! Horatio lives, and so does Fortinbras, who gets to mop up the mess. Osric will still be there, to kiss his butt. That's a spoiler, fair maiden!
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:29 pm
Wind-Whisper Quote: Everyone dies in Hamlet?! Nooooo.... gonk Fear Not! Horatio lives, and so does Fortinbras, who gets to mop up the mess. Osric will still be there, to kiss his butt. That's a spoiler, fair maiden! Unless you're watching the Brannagh version, where somebody decides to get all stabby with Osric. I was all like "Robin Williams?! Nooooo!!!!!!1!!111!! gonk
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:37 pm
Okay, so The Empty Child was creepy as all hell. I like it. I get the feeling that discussion on this one is necessarily going to be limited since we haven't gotten to the second part yet, but I'm curious as to what people think of this one.
I will say I particularly like the banter that this epiosode opens with. The offhand comments out mauve and milk were extremely entertaining. I think it's also an indication that the characters (and the actors) are becoming more comfortable with each other (and their roles).
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:47 pm
Star_Lily Okay, so The Empty Child was creepy as all hell. I like it. I get the feeling that discussion on this one is necessarily going to be limited since we haven't gotten to the second part yet, but I'm curious as to what people think of this one. I will say I particularly like the banter that this epiosode opens with. The offhand comments out mauve and milk were extremely entertaining. I think it's also an indication that the characters (and the actors) are becoming more comfortable with each other (and their roles). Okay Americans, it is the scariest yet. Even tooth and claw, which was meant to be terrifying.
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:33 pm
Star_Lily Okay, so The Empty Child was creepy as all hell. I like it. I get the feeling that discussion on this one is necessarily going to be limited since we haven't gotten to the second part yet, but I'm curious as to what people think of this one. I will say I particularly like the banter that this epiosode opens with. The offhand comments out mauve and milk were extremely entertaining. I think it's also an indication that the characters (and the actors) are becoming more comfortable with each other (and their roles). TRUST ME THE NEXT ONE'S A HELL OF A LOT SCARIER biggrin
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:35 pm
Ah, yes, the four most terrifying words in the English language:
"Are you my mummy?"
*shivers*
I'll wait to give my opinions until after "The Doctor Dances" airs, cos I can never remember what happens in which episode.
DW
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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:18 pm
Warnersister Ah, yes, the four most terrifying words in the English language: "Are you my mummy?" *shivers* I'll wait to give my opinions until after "The Doctor Dances" airs, cos I can never remember what happens in which episode. DW And it's just oodles more disturbing when it comes out of an old man's mouth.
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Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 1:56 pm
"Everybody lives! Just this once everybody lives!"
"He's actually rather like you, except with dating and dancing."
"I've...danced."
I don't even know where to start. This episode was pretty awesome, all things considered. Drama, snarkiness, running away and the surprise twist at the end.
And of course, Mr Harkness joins up with the Doctor and Rose.
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