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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:57 am


Haha. Wall of text. D:
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:13 am


Yes, Happy 42nd MJK!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:08 am


Yaay Maynard is only a few years younger than my parents, it makes me laugh. Though Danny Carey is like 1 year younger, even funnier.

I can definitely hear a similarity to Schism in Vicarious, this may be because I'd obviously look at it from a bass point of view.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 11:20 am


Lucas_Usagi
They weren't kidding when they said it was like a mix of Opiate and Lateralus... BRILLIANT!! I feel this album will be far from a disappointment, It'll be there best thus far. Maynard's lyrics and the sounds emitted from the band have once again energized my spinal column. The lyrics really do bring forth a lot of war and television thoughts. "While a mother holds her child/And watches him die/Hands to the sky crying/''Why oh why?''" puts the image of whats happening in the middle east, stuff you see on the news, a lot of government doings, war in general. There was alos some critics that said the war in Iraq could "turn into another Vietnam." You also see stories of all kinds of death and murder stories. Local news and national news are both filled with pictures of our dark side and our "lost side". And also, the word "Days" can also be defined as(a noun): the time during which someone's life continues. So "10,000 Days" could also mean "10,000 Lives". Google it and one the first hits on the listis a report about hurrican Katrina (along with a book by Ko Un and a heart drug that could save "10,000 lives) which they say "Katrina may have claimed 10,000 lives"... "...killed by the ocean...". So with the war in Iraq, aka George Bush's wet dream, and the USA's arrogant totalitarian actions in almost every war they've been a part of, now we bring into view the governments poor reaction to that natural occurance, due to greed, racism, and stupid a** "National Security Safety Measures". But this is not to just "blindly wave a fist" or "point the finger" at the US Government. I usually find multiple "meanings" in Maynard's poetry and in this song the "why don't we just admit it?" part seems to the idea that we all really do feed off the tragedy on TV and just tragedy in general, either in good or bad ways. We see something horrible happening, we feel thankful that we are not going through what we see..."...much better you than I...". It keeps us in fear and it feeds that will and that twisted idea to go to that "job" and "pay the bill and pay the taxes" so that we can continue to live vicariously. We see this death and pain and we feel that what we are seeing is wrong, or in some cases of war people see it as "right", or just plain "tragic" but we can't turn our heads from the television sets and we feel like we can not help... we can only "stare like a zombie... into the TV." With the Katrina reference I also see an Aenima like message to "listen to nature"... otherwise she'll destroy all the you fret for and drown your a**. Turn off the TV's and shut the ******** up and listen. Listen to the Earth, not just with your ears but mind and heart as well. Live with it not against it. Stop killing people... live with them!

I love it when he says "why cant we just admit it?" along with Danny's drums and the that crazy measure plays out. But we do need that "dark side" thats in us. You can't have Yin without Yang and visa versa. So why can't we just admit it?(Or why can't we just admit that we are kind of lost and ******** up right now? lets get over it and move on.) In order learn one of the things that must go on is to experience "wrong", to "fail", and to "travel through the dark tunnel to reach the bright white light at the end". All that is going on must happen in order to reach that next step of our evolution. A vampire needs to feed so that he may live and lure a Vamp hunter to come and drive a stake through his heart and free him of the "evil" curse. We need this, we watch it on the news, we read it in the papers, and we play it in the video games. It a part of our "warrior" human and surviving animal nature.

When he says "Credulous at best your desire to believe in, angels in the hearts of men/Pull your head on out; Your head believes, (so please give a (?)) listen/Shouldn't have to say it all again/The universe is hostile, so impersonal/Devour to survive so it is/So it's always been" thats when I got a big chill up my spine, that internal metaphysical caduceus or Kundalini energy. I think it means in that first line is that we are gulible to believe and believe too readily that there is good in everyone, especially when we are kids. We just don't really know about people and what the ******** is going on... yet. Listen to your "head", Maynard "shouldn't have to say it all again"... in other words "******** listen and use your ******** brain!" The universe is indeed hostile, super novas, black holes, implosions, volcanos, earthquakes, hurricaines, and the basic fact that "life feeds on life." It doesn't really care who you "are", you may die, you may live. It is impersonal and therefore has no real personality of its own. And when he said "Devour to survive so it is/So it's always been.", a picture of a Mayan carving I saw on the internet... A snake/dragon eating its own tail. A symbol of eternity(< scroll to the very bottm to read an interesting Terence McKenna quote),Ouroboros, and the Aztec and Mayan legends of Quetzalcoatl.

Like I've said before Tool has that power to get me thinking. "We won't give pause until the blood is flowing/Neither the brave nor bold/Writers their stories sold/We won't give pause until the blood is flowing" this reminds me of the Book of Revelations in the Bible. Where it says that the streets will be covered in blood, resembling a river of blood (once again war and the s**t we are seeing on Satan's Dream Box). Another "end of the times" reference, indeed we are in the last days.

Vicarious is a great song and I know this album will not disappoint.


bravo!

thats amazing...im going to quote you here in my MySpace blog...its that good....

but now i gotta go and click on all those links and get lost for hours trying to absorb it all hahaha.

you sure your not like....MAYNARD or something?


p.s. happy birthday James!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:16 pm


I heard the song on the WRAT this morning, pretty good though it sounded like Schism sweatdrop
I also didn't know today was MJK's b-day!
Yet another cool person born in April! mrgreen
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 4:34 pm


I heard the song on monday on 96 rock I absolutely love it.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 6:53 pm


doctor korea: it's just so incomplete.
doctor korea: like it's full of only intros to songs that are actually progressive.

yea, i'm still hoping this 10K days is a decoy.

lol moer liek 10k GAAAAYYYYZZZ
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:16 pm


... I'm downloading the album via rapidshare (it was too tempting to NOT click the link x_x). I don't know if I can put the link here... can I put the link here? XD

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 8:36 pm


Nah, don't want a mod poking in. So far just the 30 sec clip is legitimate to post, although I'm not sure if you can post links to a song when it's on the radio.

I'm still not sick of this song D:
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:34 pm


Doctor MEAN!
doctor korea: it's just so incomplete.
doctor korea: like it's full of only intros to songs that are actually progressive.

yea, i'm still hoping this 10K days is a decoy.

lol moer liek 10k GAAAAYYYYZZZ




see i just don't get that...


this album is ******** amazing...i couldnt imagine there being a need for anymore right now...


i promise you theres more to this album then meets the eye...look at how much Lateralus unraveled over the years...we got SO much out of that album.

and now, they present something new to us and i garanteee they put just as much work into it if not MORE...theres SO much we need to figure out. i seriously doubt this is a decoy, but if it IS then good for them, and us...

if its not then we have a lot of work to do.

either way, im happy....this is Tool man...they never disapoint.

SenorDiablo


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:58 pm


I'm really not all that impressed either, to be honest.

:/
PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:19 pm


Awsome intro... but then it suddenly changes into a numetal power ballad and does let up. The only credit I can give this section is that it is a little more complicated syncopation than most numetal. The distortion guitar only lets up for a while for a sample of radio. A Sample? WTF? Tool is about the beauty in the geometry of music. Samples are not geometrical. Then back into numetal... only to then return back to the intro without any variation.

Where did my progressive Tool go?

Edit: I missed out on complaining about the RnB section with no reference to any other part of the song.

I love this song... but its just not the Tool I've come to respect and love

Calm_As_Hindu_Cow


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 6:07 am


Calm_As_Hindu_Cow
Awsome intro... but then it suddenly changes into a numetal power ballad and does let up. The only credit I can give this section is that it is a little more complicated syncopation than most numetal. The distortion guitar only lets up for a while for a sample of radio. A Sample? WTF? Tool is about the beauty in the geometry of music. Samples are not geometrical. Then back into numetal... only to then return back to the intro without any variation.

Where did my progressive Tool go?

Edit: I missed out on complaining about the RnB section with no reference to any other part of the song.

I love this song... but its just not the Tool I've come to respect and love


Tool has changed every single album. Opiate doesn't sound like Undertow doesn't sound like Aenima doesn't sound like Lateralus. And Tool hasn't always been "progressive". People were calling Opiate grunge. That's a bit far from progressive. Tool has no singular sound aside from "Tool", so how can you be disappointed with them if they're still Tool?

This is the same Tool that you respect and love; it's just not the same Lateralus that you want again so badly.

Oh well. Things happen. I'm sure there's people who listened to Opiate and were saying "WTF?!" when Lateralus came out.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:39 am


Nefarious Soy
Calm_As_Hindu_Cow
Awsome intro... but then it suddenly changes into a numetal power ballad and does let up. The only credit I can give this section is that it is a little more complicated syncopation than most numetal. The distortion guitar only lets up for a while for a sample of radio. A Sample? WTF? Tool is about the beauty in the geometry of music. Samples are not geometrical. Then back into numetal... only to then return back to the intro without any variation.

Where did my progressive Tool go?

Edit: I missed out on complaining about the RnB section with no reference to any other part of the song.

I love this song... but its just not the Tool I've come to respect and love


Tool has changed every single album. Opiate doesn't sound like Undertow doesn't sound like Aenima doesn't sound like Lateralus. And Tool hasn't always been "progressive". People were calling Opiate grunge. That's a bit far from progressive. Tool has no singular sound aside from "Tool", so how can you be disappointed with them if they're still Tool?

This is the same Tool that you respect and love; it's just not the same Lateralus that you want again so badly.

Oh well. Things happen. I'm sure there's people who listened to Opiate and were saying "WTF?!" when Lateralus came out.


Exactly! A lot of people seem to be expecting "Lateralus II: A New Beginning" or something. I've only heard Vicarious and, yes, it does "sound like" parts of Schism, parts of Third Eye, etc, but its a completely new song and it is so different than whats on the previous albums. I'm so looking forward to popping it into my cd player on May 2nd and going on a soundwave ride. Anyway, it is all opinion and I think I am going to love this new album. I'm not expecting another Lateralus album, I'm expecting another Tool album... and, well... this is TOOL!

Lucas_Usagi


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:31 am


Lucas_Usagi
Nefarious Soy
Calm_As_Hindu_Cow
Awsome intro... but then it suddenly changes into a numetal power ballad and does let up. The only credit I can give this section is that it is a little more complicated syncopation than most numetal. The distortion guitar only lets up for a while for a sample of radio. A Sample? WTF? Tool is about the beauty in the geometry of music. Samples are not geometrical. Then back into numetal... only to then return back to the intro without any variation.

Where did my progressive Tool go?

Edit: I missed out on complaining about the RnB section with no reference to any other part of the song.

I love this song... but its just not the Tool I've come to respect and love


Tool has changed every single album. Opiate doesn't sound like Undertow doesn't sound like Aenima doesn't sound like Lateralus. And Tool hasn't always been "progressive". People were calling Opiate grunge. That's a bit far from progressive. Tool has no singular sound aside from "Tool", so how can you be disappointed with them if they're still Tool?

This is the same Tool that you respect and love; it's just not the same Lateralus that you want again so badly.

Oh well. Things happen. I'm sure there's people who listened to Opiate and were saying "WTF?!" when Lateralus came out.


Exactly! A lot of people seem to be expecting "Lateralus II: A New Beginning" or something. I've only heard Vicarious and, yes, it does "sound like" parts of Schism, parts of Third Eye, etc, but its a completely new song and it is so different than whats on the previous albums. I'm so looking forward to popping it into my cd player on May 2nd and going on a soundwave ride. Anyway, it is all opinion and I think I am going to love this new album. I'm not expecting another Lateralus album, I'm expecting another Tool album... and, well... this is TOOL!


All i gotta say is...

To Nefarious Soy: yup!

To Lucas Usagi: uh huh!
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