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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:00 pm
Beth's face paled the more people spoke. Everyone seemed contented to play the hero, especially once their Chosen-hood was used as a call to arms. Tara's words were true. Maybe their conflict would be exacerbated not focused by their relationship to the survivors outside. Of course, there wouldn't be survivors for long if they didn't go out and save them.
But it was when Brian spoke that she wrinkled her nose. She stamped her foot lightly and crossed her arms. "Don't you think it's more complicated than all that? The people here can't hold out without us. They're tired, they've been hanging on for as long as they can. And there's no guarantee that these fortifications are enough." She sighed, knowing that she would go unheard. And she wasn't about to vote against a friend.
She wished they weren't so predictable. She wasn't a hero. But if they were going to risk their lives, it was best to do it as a unit.
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:23 pm
" No one's forcing anyone to do anything. We were just told to discuss. To vote. Everyone has a right to be heard, and we're going to need everyone on the same side no matter which decision is made so there's no need to be catty." Isaiah glanced at the woman that had just announced her vote. If she didn't care what anyone thought of her, then he wouldn't give a damn what she thought of him. " The people out there don't even have fortifications. They're out there, alone, fighting to survive. Everyone's just fighting to survive, and I want to give everyone their best damn chance. There's a group that's more in need here, in my opinion. And I want to help them."
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phoenix kiss Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:36 pm
Ewan, who had perched on a countertop next to Mal, just frowned, dark brows knitted over dark eyes. Mal had a point -- Ewan wondered if it weren't a Zeus thing, that one made hard decisions after considering all the options, and if the decision made was the hardest one... well.
So be it.
He rubbed his hands together, willing warmth back into them. "There's no guarantee that even if we head down the mountain we find civilians. For all we know they could all be dead. Most wouldn't have the training we've had. And then we'd all of us be dead, every single one, Chosen or not."
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:39 pm
" I'm not being catty but you sure are being argumentative and bulldozing over everyone's opinions because you seem to think yours matters the most," she retorted, clearly bored with his constant harping on saving people. " I said my piece, I voted. Anything else you'd like me to do, Your Highness?" And then she stared, face a mask, as she waited to see if he'd decide to continue trying to get her to decide that no one in this hotel mattered. There was no blood on her conscience. She voted the way she felt was right and if this guy disagreed, that was his problem. happy bonsai i don't think these two will be friends anytime soon ;;>.>
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:57 pm
" If argumentative and bulldozing is how I'm being portrayed right now- my bad." Isaiah frowned. " I'm just trying to be real here. And, honestly, I couldn't live with myself if I couldn't say I gave it my all to try and save those people before we dropped a mountain on them." He huffed, but he zipped up his jacket and drifted back to his place by one of the boarded up windows. " I've said what I think should be heard, though. I'll take the hint and can it. Let the majority decide."
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:17 pm
" Passion's good but so is listening," she returned, voice still firm but warmer. " We all know what you think. They all know my opinion. Now it's time to let them make their own. In the end, we all have to stand together."
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:41 pm
"Stand together or fall alone," Misha murmured and then covered her mouth to muffle the sharp, inappropriate giggle that bubbled up at the thought. She shook her head and drew both legs up to hook her heels on the edge of the chair's cushion. Her arms wrapped around her raised knees. Ducking forward, she rested her chin on them and studied the others with solemn grey eyes. How could she decide which lives were more important? She didn't even know these people. She knew her fellow Chosen, though. So it came down to that, she supposed. Did she care more about them risking their lives in the hotel or on the mountain? Did she stand with the Chosen she liked personally? She sighed and lifted her head a bit. "You all realize that, no matter which way we go, we're going to need some really good therapy after this. People have died. Probably more will die. We're not really gods yet but we'll be responsible for this all. So... It comes down to what we can live with." There. The most serious thing she had said in months... and she still had no answer yet. It twisted her stomach awfully.
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:01 pm
Mal held up a hand. "This isn't personal. But none of us have the luxury of pretending to be sheep. We are Chosen heros, we are sheepdogs. We protect. But what none of us can do is abdicate responsibility to make a decision. I don't care what decision anyone makes-- your decision is your business. But you, we, I cannot afford to pretend that the choices we make right here and right now will, absolutely, end up resulting in deaths."Maybe it was a Zeus thing, the need to work over all the options, and acknowledge the choices that were not taken as much as the ones that were. "What I advocate, strongly, is talking about it. Argue, yell, please. By all means. I have a feeling I'll be making no few new friends in a sparring space if we all get back, and I welcome getting my a** handed to me as often as it happens." He smiled a little ruefully, maybe thinking about Asher, and pushed his glasses back up his nose again. But this was too serious for him to smile much and it faded again, almost immediately. "The terms are from a book called On Combat." Ewan probably knew the book, even the essay. It was referenced a lot by officers who had to use deadly force. Mal wet his lower lip, thinking. "Honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy things that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost. In our time, that may mean social disapproval, public scorn, hardship, persecution, or as always, even death itself. The question remains, what is worth defending? What is worth dying for?" Mal had taken an unconscious step forward, and he waved outward and then in-- the snow, the hotel, the lodge, themselves. "The question isn't about the ability of those here. If you didn't have the ability, you wouldn't be here. It's not about courage, we've all proved ourselves. It's about where we each, individually, draw a line in ourselves for what we are willing to live with. I have no quarrel with where you each draw your own line--" He met Tom's eye squarely for that. It wasn't personal, and he needed to know that. "--I only ask that each of us actually decide, for ourselves, where that line is, and not allow ourselves to be swayed without thought."
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:09 pm
Beth swallowed, backing up nervously until she ran into a chair. The tension was making her breath and thoughts freeze up. She always hated confrontations and fights. The thought of being responsible for the death of anyone, much less a group of people, made her nauseous. "If that's what it comes down to," She started slowly, "I think I'd rather save the ones I know I can help than sacrifice them for people I don't even know are still alive." Or know, period. She thought about Dotty and Nicholas, of Jim and a girl she'd soothed into a fitful sleep. She took a deep breath, squared her shoulders, and announced clearly, "I think we should stay and defend the hotel." She lifted her chin as if daring someone to question her decision. Given the circumstances, if someone did, she was liable to burst into tears, but no one else needed to know that.
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:18 pm
" Are you a sheep farmer or something? You're obsession with sheep and sheepdogs is worrisome." Marisol commented because, well, she wasn't either of those animals. And she was rather getting tired of hearing that sentiment. Surely there was something else to compare them to.
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:18 pm
As much as Tom wanted to go and rescue the civilians, there were just so many more problems with going out there and the potential of an avalanche killing ALL of them. If they had to go out then if they didn’t make it the majority of the chosen WOULD be wiped out. He doubted that even they could survive being trapped without oxygen for so long and not knowing which direction was up. He would have to take a water bottle with him if they did go for the rescuing option. Better to have something that would tell you which way gravity was working. Then there was also the problem of actually being able to rescue those people. They could run into absolutely no one and all they would have done was wasted time and energy. But… he wasn’t sure what these birds were capable of. So far he had mostly been pecked and scratched at, but he had heard they could do other things. Could one of those things bring down the entire hotel with all of them in it? Set the building on fire? Even if it couldn’t do something like that what was to guarantee that they would survive even in the hotel? Could the avalanche reach this place? He probably should have gone with the others some more, but it was hard to ignore giving medical attention to those in the hotel. It was a tough decision, one he had faced quite a few times already. Why was this entirely on them though? Couldn’t they ask the people in the hotel if they thought they could handle it? The answer would probably be ‘no’, but if they were that reliant on the chosen then it might cause a mass panic when they left anyway. He smiled a bit when he heard Marisol stand up for him. Well, he had to get used to brushing off insulting comments anyway. He would have to get used to unruly patients. But… the guy seemed to want to make quite the grand speeches. Tom was not a battler or wanting honor at all so he really didn’t care about whether this would affect whatever ‘honor’ he had left with random strangers that they were helping. And he certainly could abdicate making a decision. If he went with the minority the majority would win anyway. He was also kind of insulted that this guy was practically telling them what to do. Tom could decide what he wanted to do, what he could ‘live with’, etc. He had had plenty of patients die on him already. He gave a sigh. I still think it would be best if we split up. As much as I want to help the people outside, there’s no guarantee we’ll actually find anyone. I would feel a lot better if we could send out some warning that there would be an avalanche and to take cover if you are outside but… I’m not sure how these birds work though they probably understand what we are saying I suppose. That would probably be telling them our plan. He thought in his head. Perhaps at the end he would go with defending the hotel, but as of right now he kept his mouth shut. He still didn't have an answer that he was specifically leaning towards and until they could eliminate some more of the possibilities on one or the other side, he couldn't give a hard answer. He looked back at the guy. He was having a really hard time not coming up with a sarcastic response to “… not allow ourselves to be swayed without thought.” Yes, he was totally just going with the flow and not thinking about the situation at all. Sheesh, this guy assumes a lot doesn’t he. Out loud he just gave the man a nod and moved away from him, back towards the partition that had been set up with the help of Rose and checking to make sure that there was no one else who needed help. There was no point in continuing with someone who assumed you were 'sheep', or at least pretending to, and refused to use your own brain.
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:22 pm
Cat had stayed in the background, listening to others erupting into arguments over this decision. Now she dragged her hands down her face - this was a horrible decision to have to make. Horrible and real. How could a choice be made between saving lives and defending them? Could she bare leaving those lost outside to die, how could she live with that? And if they left the hotel defenseless and everyone already here perished, how could she live with that? She moved forward when she saw Beth collapse into a chair nearby, squeezing her shoulder with a tight smile and looking back towards the other speakers. She thought of what she and her roommate had accomplished - they had saved Nicholas and brought him back to Dotty. She thought of how haggard he was from having dealt with exposure and striving to stay out of sight of the birds overhead. Will the “survivors” outside even be alive at this point? She had been injured, over and over each time she went out there to lend herself to aiding others, could a regular mortal without the mark of a Chosen survive that kind of punishment? But Dotty’s joy at being reunited with her husband intruded on her melancholy. If the survivors were still alive, still out there, didn’t they deserve the chance to be rescued rather than avalanched?She looked around to the other Chosen, save for a few none of them were trained for or equipped with the skills necessary to make these kinds of do or die decisions. She spoke hesitantly, and mostly to herself. “If it were just me I would go out there and try saving those people. If I can still volunteer as part of a task force to do so, I will. But I don’t think I can jeopardize all the lives we’ve already saved, that we’ve worked so hard to protect just to leave them to the birds.”
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:25 pm
Briiva trundled down the stairs, her hand up over her eyes to keep the lights from glaring down too much. She gripped the handrail firmly, enough that her knuckles were white as she made her way down the steps, towards the raised voices echoing from the lounge.
She didn't have much recollection of the night before, but judging by her headache, Briiva didn't need any to know what had happened. The trip to the hotel had been exhausting, especially for someone who hadn't taken the time to hydrate properly from the night before. Her mouth felt like cotton and her head was pounding something fierce, something that wasn't wasn't being helped by the heated debate going on.
Keeping to the back of the group, Briiva grabbed a bottle of water, sipping from it as she tried to figure out what was going on, and what she had missed.
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:48 pm
Beth jumped at the unexpected touch on her shoulder only to see that it was the work of Cat, her roommate and badass extraordinaire. Even if they did end up falling on opposite sides of the vote, she had quite the admiration for the woman's personal integrity and combat expertise. Perhaps, if they made it out of there, she'd have to confide such sentiments. As it was, she wished she really could leech strength from her fingers and merely gave Cat a relieved look of thanks. While it was a terrible thing they were asked to do, all of the arguing was getting to her. "We did promise to protect them, didn't we? We can't abandon them now." She looked around, trying to gauge everyone's feelings, but their faces were blurring together words echoing around in her head. She was distracted by movement back into the room and a face that she hadn't expected to see presented herself. She blinked. "Briiva?" She called out. "Where have you been?"
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