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 Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:29 am
Woah! That did encourage me, make me think and smile! I've never thought of it that way! Thanks for sharing that unique opinion with us, TheElectricSeagull! biggrin I agree with it all the way!
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:43 pm
myescapeandahalf god created everything in 6 days, others might say that it was 6 million years
Gods day could be 1 million years long. I dont think God has the same time system as us... ?
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:51 pm
I take a rather...liberal (probably not the right word) view on the Bible. Whilst I do try and live by it and uphold its laws, I also think that over the years that the Bible has been translated from language to language, some things could have been messed up. Also, I just try and live my life as I think that God wants me to live it. :3
As in, the Bible says that Christ is going to come back and that those who do not believe will be stricken down (or somewhere along the lines of that; forgive me if I'm wrong, this is from my memory or a Sunday School class quite some time ago)...I personally don't think that a situation such as that will happen. To me, the Lord and God are all-loving and forgiving, and somehow all-loving+forgiving = stricken down doesn't make sense to me.
Pretty much what I'm trying to say is that I don't treat the Bible as the answer to everything, but I do respect it and basically try and live by the major rules in it. ^^
-edit- Oh, and here's another thing; For those of you that have heard of the Wesleyan Quadrilateral, I generally go by that. Pretty much, I go by Scripture, then Tradition, then Reason, then Experience. ^^
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:31 pm
Emily the Pissed
I take a rather...liberal (probably not the right word) view on the Bible. Whilst I do try and live by it and uphold its laws, I also think that over the years that the Bible has been translated from language to language, some things could have been messed up. Also, I just try and live my life as I think that God wants me to live it. :3
As in, the Bible says that Christ is going to come back and that those who do not believe will be stricken down (or somewhere along the lines of that; forgive me if I'm wrong, this is from my memory or a Sunday School class quite some time ago)...I personally don't think that a situation such as that will happen. To me, the Lord and God are all-loving and forgiving, and somehow all-loving+forgiving = stricken down doesn't make sense to me.
Pretty much what I'm trying to say is that I don't treat the Bible as the answer to everything, but I do respect it and basically try and live by the major rules in it. ^^
-edit- Oh, and here's another thing; For those of you that have heard of the Wesleyan Quadrilateral, I generally go by that. Pretty much, I go by Scripture, then Tradition, then Reason, then Experience. ^^
ok, wow, i disagree with alot of that, sorry, but it just strikes me as an interesting point of view....I think there is NEVER any mistakes in the bible. God wrote it to be passed down from ALL generations, and still apply to us. its not like a constitution, it doesn't need things added, or taken away (last chapter in revalation, forget verse). I think that God doesn't have time, but knows what our time is, so would write it in a way we understand. why would he write 6 days in our time, but mean 6 million (ex.) to confuse us if he doesn't even have time! he wrote it that way for us to understand. I also believe that dinosaurs lived with man, and they might be older but by what, 2 days?!? and even as new versions of the bible come out (NIV) and stuff, It still goes by the same meaning just changes the words like neh to no and stuff. I don't think it was messed up anywhere along there because God told them how to write the bible, and the differences aren't that big! The bible is my map, God is my food, shelter, and water, im lost in the desert, they are all i need...nothing else is required smile
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 8:24 am
Emily the Pissed
-edit- Oh, and here's another thing; For those of you that have heard of the Wesleyan Quadrilateral, I generally go by that. Pretty much, I go by Scripture, then Tradition, then Reason, then Experience. ^^
You can't pick and choose what scripture you believe in the bible and what scripture you don't, since you said that you only tried to uphold to the main values laws, whatever. You either believe the bible or you don't. Because you have faith that all is right and that God chose those people to translate it for us or like you, you believe that it has chances of being messed up and not true. so there for yo ufollowing it would be invalid since there's a chance it's wrong. God didn't call us to be traditional he called us to be the exact opposite. In one verse in the bible it says Christians are peculiar(sp) people. Meaning we are set apart. My question is to you, how you can be set apart from the world and chosen if you are still following tradition? Jesus didn't follow tradition at all, which is one of the reasons the pharisees(sp) and the pharrohs and all the other leaders saw him as a threat. What they had made tradition in following laws Jesus had a whole nother view on it all, the right view that went against tradition. There is no way to reason God! Seriously you can't even begin to grasp his whole concept of creating the universe, all the animals and everything else in it, and the human race. So how can you reason him? (My next text outside of this will be an example of what I mean.) Why did God make me the sick one in a poor family, but made her a girl who's completely healthy with a family who can afford the essentials and even a little extra? People question things about God all the time, WHY! I know what I'm called to do, but I can't tell you God's reasoning behind it. Too me it's insane but thats his point. He can do whatever he wants and use who ever he wants and is doesn't have to have a reason, that's just how it is. So how do you reason God? Experience is everything. The bible doesn't bring you to salvation it lets you learn more of it, but that's not what brings you ultimately to salvation. It's the experience you had in the presence of God that gives you the convictions that says "It's time I lived for Jesus." It's not tradition that gives someone that the faith to be healed, it's experiencing the presence the of God that gets you healed. It's not reason that explains why you were blessed with something when you agreed to give up because there's was no way you can afford it. It's because God saw you maturely give something up with out jealousy or angry. And when you were in his presence he blessed you. Without experiences there are no testimonies of Jesus and how he saved people. Without experiences there are no healings, miracles, and encounters with the holy spirit. But even then the experiences are to our own benefit, they are to glorify God and for us to share with the world so that they too might have an experience with Christ come to salvation and start sharing their own experiences to lead other people to Christ. I can say all this from exprience I was in the presence of God when I got saved, I never even touched a bible since I was 8. I was saved when I was 16. I stopped after awhile reading my bible and stuff the presence of God once again convicted, I got rededicated this past August. Now I read my bible (Not as often as I should, but working on it.) And I preach...All because of an experinece. I felt God's presence and I was healed of Asthma, after I was told there was no way for me to grow out of it because of a disease. I had an experience. I gave up a bunch of things that I couldn't afford. A dance, a dress, and a pair of cleats (the good kind is all I buy.) God saw my pure heart and intentions and I still gave. I experienced his blessing. Because I got the pair of cleats that are orginally 80dollars for 20 bucks. (I was in need of them). I've encountered the Holy Spirit in many ways, from baptized in the spirit to being drunk in the spirit, to even praying for someone to baptized in the spirit. That was an experience so that I can share. All this was an experience so that I can share a testimoy with others to glorify my God. (And I perfer encounter over the word experience).
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:17 pm
Jakal Saba Naor To the entire evolution thing. It's all about how you interpret the information provided. You think hmmmm these look similiar therefore they must have once had a common ancestor. Or you can think hmmm these look similiar therefore they have the same Maker. There are no transitionary fossils. This means that there is no evidence of speices changing into others. All speices show up in the fossil record fully formed. I do not support Evolution. However, science does 'claim' to have fossils in transitionary form.
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:23 pm
Precious_lil_Princess myescapeandahalf god created everything in 6 days, others might say that it was 6 million years
Gods day could be 1 million years long. I dont think God has the same time system as us... ?For those whom believe in God, he created our system of time, space, et cetera. Naturally he is above our system. The expressed time are 'days'. One day is a revolution of the earth. The sun was created on the fourth day. Some say by this mention, those classified three days, were actually a large span in time. My beef with this is; how could there be a classification of 'days', unless there was a revolution of the world, with the sun? Therefore when a 'day' is stressed, I believe it literally meant one day. However, it is not told how long Adam and eventually Eve dwelled in the Garden of Eden before banishment.
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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:28 pm
myescapeandahalf many people take everything in the bible literally, some including myself, believe in more of a mixture between the bible and science, for instance, some people believe the bible is true when it says god created everything in 6 days, others might say that it was 6 million years, or something like that, and to just look at the general picture, what do you believe The bible does not condone science, just what is classified as 'bad science': 1 Timothy 6:20 (King James Version) King James Version (KJV) Public Domain 20O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:26 pm
I don't believe in evolution. God can make similar animals. It is like an artist. A lot of the times you can tell who drew cartoons by looking at their style. Maybe all of the hair is similar, or maybe their body structure is similar, but it doesn't mean that they changed.
I do, however, believe in the big bang.
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:22 am
Imotoku I do, however, believe in the big bang. Heh, God's big bang razz .
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 5:19 pm
Skiddishfit Imotoku I do, however, believe in the big bang. Heh, God's big bang razz . Yeah smile .
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Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:49 am
Hmm.. may be a bit late.... but whatever.
BandFreakJo- So you are saying that if you sin, you are going to sacrifice animals? You know that it's illegal, right? You are also saying that when you get your period and sleep in a bed, that your husband will not be able to sleep in the same bed as you unless he washes the sheets? Or that when you sit on a chair, it will not be able to be sat on until ( I forget the number) an x amount of days has passed?
I think not.
You also are saying that you won't eat the pig? Or you are going to stone homosexuals?
Stoning is also illegal. >.>
Hmm... and with the evolution side discussion:
I believe in evolution- mind you, NOT Darwin's theory... More like Adam and Eve were probably really hairy because they were first created to roam around the garden... naked. It was probably really cold at night. When they got 'kicked out', then they might have lost hair- therefore goes why we are not hairy (as... some exceptions can be made. >.> )
Also, if God made Adam and Eve together, they probably looked the same... and then their sons also. Now, I'm not quite sure where their wives came from, and if they looked like Adam and Eve, but what else could explain dark skin to light skin, light eyes to dark? Most of those traits are beneficial if not necessary to live where they were (excluding immigrants and... well, before interracial marriage. )
Now with the animals, the theory (and I do support this one) is that when the lands were "one", the birds and animals and all that looked alike, but when Panama broke apart, they began to also change their ways and adapted as well as became a different species. Or it could have been that one group was mating with another, and the other at different times... with the example of ( I think it was) fruit flies, one spins right, others spin left all to get a mate- whichever one appealed to the female fly.
Scientists believe that because of the different behavioral patterns, the flies will become different species.
Ta da.
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